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madaboutharry

(40,211 posts)
Wed Jan 11, 2017, 12:11 AM Jan 2017

I wonder if they're panicking in Trump Tower.

If these revelations are substantiated and true, the Trump presidency is over before it even began. It won't last more than a year. And as far as Pence goes it will come down to what he knew and when he knew it.

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I wonder if they're panicking in Trump Tower. (Original Post) madaboutharry Jan 2017 OP
And what he should have known. LiberalFighter Jan 2017 #1
Malcom Nance just said MFM008 Jan 2017 #2
Was Nance on the tv? eleny Jan 2017 #7
MSNBC's 11th Hour. Brian Williams had Nance and Chris Matthews oasis Jan 2017 #21
McConnell has been carrying his water for some time now. Tatiana Jan 2017 #12
Yep. Lifelong Protester Jan 2017 #3
No doubt on that. roamer65 Jan 2017 #4
So this explains why James Woolsey former CIA head suddenly left the Trump team doc03 Jan 2017 #5
Or Woolsey may know other dirt on Trump unrelated to this. milestogo Jan 2017 #18
Exactly. He left in a hurry. nt oasis Jan 2017 #22
Over before it began? FBI knew last August. McCain in December. Perchance the GOP had applegrove Jan 2017 #6
Perhaps Pence goes down too and we have a President Ryan, even scarier. sarcasmo Jan 2017 #9
Unless he has been aware of it too.....nt 2naSalit Jan 2017 #10
Then it would President Hatch. N/T Big Blue Marble Jan 2017 #25
Ryan knew also brush Jan 2017 #37
Yes... TrekLuver Jan 2017 #30
But he owes Pootie billions! flamingdem Jan 2017 #8
No chance. The rethugs will never remove him. If tape emerges they will say it's fake. kairos12 Jan 2017 #11
That would take disavowing the intelligence agencies. madaboutharry Jan 2017 #13
I seriously doubt they'll impeach Trump over this. herding cats Jan 2017 #14
they impeached President Clinton over Monica Lewinsky !!!!! THIS IS WAY WORSE trueblue2007 Jan 2017 #17
yeahbut, he was a democrat. mopinko Jan 2017 #19
Yes, but we're talking about a Republican held house and senate. herding cats Jan 2017 #20
Silly rabbit, don't you know? IOKIYAR! nt tblue37 Jan 2017 #34
They're probably pissing themselves. TheBlackAdder Jan 2017 #15
pun intended? KewlKat Jan 2017 #26
Oh, it is! :-) TheBlackAdder Jan 2017 #42
I HOPE they're pissing themselves! calimary Jan 2017 #28
The Dems should deny *any* GOP "President" legitimacy... First Speaker Jan 2017 #16
they will if public opinion is with them n/t Hamlette Jan 2017 #38
Everyone in that tower was fully aware what tRump was doing. sheshe2 Jan 2017 #23
Agee She, they have worked around him for some time, he does not really try to hide his antics Thinkingabout Jan 2017 #32
I read here yesterday a post.... sheshe2 Jan 2017 #36
Chinese fire drills are going on in Drumpf Tower at this moment. democratisphere Jan 2017 #24
Didn't Tom Arnold elude to some of this the other day in his twitter rant? KewlKat Jan 2017 #27
I'm sure Ryan is furious. Mr.Bill Jan 2017 #29
Trump Shower -- er, I mean Tower Blue Owl Jan 2017 #31
Good play on words, LOL Thinkingabout Jan 2017 #33
Damn, I finally laughed! Hekate Jan 2017 #43
I can't wait to see Kellyanne CONway try and spin this one. putitinD Jan 2017 #35
trump already did, it is a partisan witch hunt, "fake news" n/t Hamlette Jan 2017 #39
Trump is known to lie almost 100% of the time. putitinD Jan 2017 #40
I think it's more than 100% world wide wally Jan 2017 #41
Wonder if Kellyanne's bleached hair is twisting itself back into Medusa snakes and hissing Hekate Jan 2017 #44

MFM008

(19,814 posts)
2. Malcom Nance just said
Wed Jan 11, 2017, 12:17 AM
Jan 2017

if anyone knew it we have a constitutional crisis on our hands...........

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oasis

(49,387 posts)
21. MSNBC's 11th Hour. Brian Williams had Nance and Chris Matthews
Wed Jan 11, 2017, 01:02 AM
Jan 2017

on the panel. What Nance said was jaw dropping.

Tatiana

(14,167 posts)
12. McConnell has been carrying his water for some time now.
Wed Jan 11, 2017, 12:39 AM
Jan 2017

Probably Ryan too... that would explain his disdain and his decision to just implement his own agenda instead of Team Trump's.

Pence has probably been distanced from the slime to offer plausible deniability if/when Trump is impeached.

doc03

(35,338 posts)
5. So this explains why James Woolsey former CIA head suddenly left the Trump team
Wed Jan 11, 2017, 12:25 AM
Jan 2017

for no apparent reason last week.

milestogo

(16,829 posts)
18. Or Woolsey may know other dirt on Trump unrelated to this.
Wed Jan 11, 2017, 12:57 AM
Jan 2017

I'm sure there's plenty of dirt on this pig.

applegrove

(118,659 posts)
6. Over before it began? FBI knew last August. McCain in December. Perchance the GOP had
Wed Jan 11, 2017, 12:33 AM
Jan 2017

Last edited Wed Jan 11, 2017, 03:59 AM - Edit history (1)

this up their sleeve since then. I wondered if it was not the plan all along for the GOP to impeach him themselves. They certainly put up a fight to get Pence as VP.

brush

(53,778 posts)
37. Ryan knew also
Wed Jan 11, 2017, 02:19 AM
Jan 2017

The gang of eight, as they are being called, were informed of Russian interfering in the all.

Ryan, Comey, Pelosi, turtleman, Reid, heads of the Intel committee, and the president were all there.

The conventional wisdom then was that Hillary was going to win so the Dems didn't 'leak' it.

Comey, it seems had his own agenda. He spring his email letter to torpedo Clinton so trump would 'win'. I'm sure he had something to do with this info coming out now that trump is president-elect and the day before his first presser in 6 months.

The media is all over this, the presser, if it happens at all, will be a disaster for trump. If it doesn't happen, it will still be a disaster as trump will be seen as hiding.

The result eventually will be trump maybe taking over on 20 Jan. but he will be crippled and impeached before his first year ends, then Pence, Comey's kind of uptight repug, will then be president.

madaboutharry

(40,211 posts)
13. That would take disavowing the intelligence agencies.
Wed Jan 11, 2017, 12:43 AM
Jan 2017

That would be hard to do, especially if MI6 vouches for the evidence.

herding cats

(19,564 posts)
14. I seriously doubt they'll impeach Trump over this.
Wed Jan 11, 2017, 12:48 AM
Jan 2017

It just makes Trump the lackey of the GOP and prevents him from colluding with Putin.

Basically, in a best case scenario, it transfers the strings of the puppet from one hand to another.

Added bonus, Trump was publicly humilated.

herding cats

(19,564 posts)
20. Yes, but we're talking about a Republican held house and senate.
Wed Jan 11, 2017, 01:00 AM
Jan 2017

They'd have impeached Obama for jaywalking, but I'm not sure they'll risk the scandal of impeaching one of their own.

calimary

(81,267 posts)
28. I HOPE they're pissing themselves!
Wed Jan 11, 2017, 01:45 AM
Jan 2017

I want to see that nauseating saccharine smile wiped off Jodyanne Jerkmeoff's face! (My husband came up with that one!)

First Speaker

(4,858 posts)
16. The Dems should deny *any* GOP "President" legitimacy...
Wed Jan 11, 2017, 12:53 AM
Jan 2017

...and simply claim the election was a fraud. This won't prevent Pence--or anyone else--from assuming the office if Trump goes down. But the Dems should deny, deny, deny any legitimacy he claims, in that case. Keep saying the "President" is a fraud, boycott the State of the Union speeches, and--above all--deny the legitimacy of their Supreme Court appointments. As for those who say this will create a Constitutional crisis--one, the Repubs wouldn't hesitate were the shoe on the other foot; and two, we're already *in* a Constitutional crisis--the worst since the Civil War. The Dems of course won't do this--it's impossible to imagine the Democratic party going for the jugular. But they should.

sheshe2

(83,771 posts)
23. Everyone in that tower was fully aware what tRump was doing.
Wed Jan 11, 2017, 01:24 AM
Jan 2017

They are culpable. He has been doing this his entire life and they all turned a blind eye. They enabled him.

He was on tape and admitted that he grabs pu**ys. Assaults women without their permission. He is on the NRC stage during the convention literally groping his daughters ass. He did it in the front of the stage for all America to see.

You don't think they don't know exactly the man that he is? Yes they do. He has been doing it all his life and his family has enabled him every step of the way. They are as guilty as he is.

I hope he doesn't make it to the 20th.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
32. Agee She, they have worked around him for some time, he does not really try to hide his antics
Wed Jan 11, 2017, 01:58 AM
Jan 2017

he thinks he is a star and can get away with anything.

sheshe2

(83,771 posts)
36. I read here yesterday a post....
Wed Jan 11, 2017, 02:12 AM
Jan 2017

He has a history of Alzheimer. We have never seen a medical report. It went on to say he is very unstable and his family never leaves him alone with anyone. I scared.

Hekate

(90,690 posts)
44. Wonder if Kellyanne's bleached hair is twisting itself back into Medusa snakes and hissing
Wed Jan 11, 2017, 06:00 AM
Jan 2017

I hope every single one of that despicable clan is throwing up tonight in sheer raw panic.

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