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Socal31

(2,484 posts)
Wed Jan 11, 2017, 07:12 AM Jan 2017

I'll say it. Pence will be worse.

"Tinkle Tinkle little Czar" needs no introduction, but he is not American Taliban. I'm not a woman or LGBTQ citizen, but a Pence admin scares the crap out of me.

This all cant be real.....mental midget or relig-nut?

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I'll say it. Pence will be worse. (Original Post) Socal31 Jan 2017 OP
I disagree in part. NutmegYankee Jan 2017 #1
To me, his brand if racism and sexism is juvenile and easily countered. Socal31 Jan 2017 #4
It will be awful..... Tommy_Carcetti Jan 2017 #2
I agree Dorian Gray Jan 2017 #9
Hopefully Trump stink will help us in 2018 as well. Nt Tommy_Carcetti Jan 2017 #10
Exactly. Pence is the devil we know. Phentex Jan 2017 #12
That was part of the plan. Pick a replacement that might even be worse... Pholus Jan 2017 #3
I believe that is the reason Ryan and crew supported him HAB911 Jan 2017 #16
Both J_William_Ryan Jan 2017 #5
They're both horrible prospects... Silent3 Jan 2017 #6
Agree... Mike Nelson Jan 2017 #7
This was for pence all along uponit7771 Jan 2017 #8
I disagree greatbaldeagle Jan 2017 #11
If they start an independent investigation on the t.v. machine it's hard telling how many shraby Jan 2017 #13
Worse in some ways, but I suspect he's got a better temperament... Buckeye_Democrat Jan 2017 #14
No, he wouldn't. BlueStater Jan 2017 #15
At least there would be no second term cyclonefence Jan 2017 #17

Socal31

(2,484 posts)
4. To me, his brand if racism and sexism is juvenile and easily countered.
Wed Jan 11, 2017, 07:20 AM
Jan 2017

Whackos like Pence, with at least a room-temp IQ can fly under the radar until 3 SCOTUS appointees are ready to inflict Evangelical Sharia.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,182 posts)
2. It will be awful.....
Wed Jan 11, 2017, 07:18 AM
Jan 2017

...but it won't be worse. Trust me.

Pence will try all he can to push a super conservative agenda, but he's not pathologically impaired to the point he'd start a war over a petty insult.

Plus he'll be forever tainted with his association with the Madman and have musty stink attached to him. He can run but he can't hide.

I can at least see to 2020 with Pence. Can't say I say the same about Trump.

Dorian Gray

(13,496 posts)
9. I agree
Wed Jan 11, 2017, 08:03 AM
Jan 2017

Way conservative. His agenda is probably too conservative for many of the conservatives running for re-election in two years. I think we can weather him. He's a politician.

And at least I wouldn't have to look at DT's face for the next four years.

Can't he (Trump) just go to jail?

Phentex

(16,334 posts)
12. Exactly. Pence is the devil we know.
Wed Jan 11, 2017, 08:18 AM
Jan 2017

I can't stand him and I thought he would be worse. I assumed trump was just a narcissistic bozo. But he is clearly mentally unstable and has been compromised.

HAB911

(8,892 posts)
16. I believe that is the reason Ryan and crew supported him
Wed Jan 11, 2017, 08:41 AM
Jan 2017

they were confident when the time came he could be removed. Win the WH at all costs with this in mind.

Silent3

(15,216 posts)
6. They're both horrible prospects...
Wed Jan 11, 2017, 07:46 AM
Jan 2017

...but I fear Trump's instability and would-be tyrant personality more than Pence's fundie conservatism.

If Pence takes over at some point, I'll consider it out of the fire and back into the relative safety of the frying pan.

Mike Nelson

(9,956 posts)
7. Agree...
Wed Jan 11, 2017, 07:57 AM
Jan 2017

...that's the idea. He is the real deal, without the outrageous... a more smooth move toward the extreme right.

greatbaldeagle

(157 posts)
11. I disagree
Wed Jan 11, 2017, 08:08 AM
Jan 2017

Big Con Don is not mentally stable. How can anyone be worse than a lunatic with access to nuclear weapons? With Pence i don't have the same concerns about whether or not we will have an habitable planet in 4 years. And at least women and the LGBT community have the possibility of moving to more progressive cities/states/countries if Pence threatens their civil rights. That's what many African Americans did during the Jim Crow era. Moving to another planet isn't exactly an option yet.

I get that both could be dangerous but who is MORE dangerous? A psych ward patient with a gun or a sane but deeply religious man with a gun?

shraby

(21,946 posts)
13. If they start an independent investigation on the t.v. machine it's hard telling how many
Wed Jan 11, 2017, 08:24 AM
Jan 2017

heads are going to roll. When they start asking what did you know and when did you know it, either they lie until the lie won't cut it, or tell the truth and haul more into the pot.

They might just get Pence, McConnell and Ryan all at once. Remember, Ryan tried to distance himself from trump before the election, so he probably know the fat was in the fire.

BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
15. No, he wouldn't.
Wed Jan 11, 2017, 08:31 AM
Jan 2017

He'd be horrible for minorities and the climate, sure, but I wouldn't fear that the USA would get nuked under him.

Yeah, this is what counts as a plus in this day and age.

cyclonefence

(4,483 posts)
17. At least there would be no second term
Wed Jan 11, 2017, 10:35 AM
Jan 2017

which would be a major concern with Trump presidency.

I do agree that in many, many ways Pence is worse than Trump.

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