The collusion between the campaign and the Kremlin

[madaboutharry]

is, in my mind, the far more serious issue. Having material that can be used to blackmail an American president is very serious. But, colluding with a foreign government, one we have a hostile relationship with, in order to undermine an election is treason. Treason is a word I think we may begin to hear in the coming days.

[Chasstev365]

1. If the media would do it's job, this could be bigger than Watergate

[onetexan]

19. You got it

i'm waiting for the MSM to grow a backbone & call a duck a duck.

[uponit7771]

2. Right... That's going to be revealed soon ... I would put some money on it that's what they have

[shraby]

4. What were they doing in the state's elections computers, hmmmmm?

[skip fox]

13. Who can argue with an open mind?

[zaj]

15. This post sounds like Russian Propaganda

"Russia nonsense"? I'm a pretty balanced, rational, measured person when it comes to trying to see both sides of an issue. I agree with the outlines of your sentiment. But your post seems like a well written Russian troll wrote it.

None of this is "nonsense".

Should we take a measured tone? Should we demand more evidence? Should we question everything we hear?

Yep.

So should you.... with your dismissal of the seriousness of this moment.

We have no idea what all the facts are, but it's clear there is nothing "nonsense" about this Russia story, even given what we only know so far.

[wishstar]

6. So you joined DU to warn us of danger of speaking out against this outrageous collusion?

Amazing that you are so concerned with our discussing shocking intelligence reports presented to the highest officials in America.
Wonder what danger we are in- Retaliatiion by Trump and his team? No. America is in danger of upended foreign policy that would undermine democracies around the globe and corruption of the highest degree due to Trump taking power.

Hell of a lot more to these 35 pages of memos than leaked emails.

[wishstar]

18. "Military Industrial Complex" is salivating over mega billions expansion promised by Trump

He is promising the most massive military buildup in US history. His instability, collusion with Russia and other unpredictable changing alliances and grudges has unforeseen ramifications for democracy and human rights around the world.

[KGBot001]

9. I will assume you are one of the russian planted trolls we heard about.

[BainsBane]

7. No question about it. Nt

[oasis]

11. A relentless MSM blitz should build up enough public opinion to force

congress into a series of hearings.

[global1]

16. Shouldn't Be Congress - We Need An Independent Panel To...

review and investigate this.

Question - Can the swearing in be postponed in the meantime?

[oasis]

17. Maybe the intelligence community is trying to force him to bow out

before 1/20. They know that Trump knows what is out there on him.

[skip fox]

12. Yes. I think this is what it is point to.

And Trump, knowing it would come out eventually tried to discredit the Intel communities to undermine their discoveries and to say their revelations are a p[product of revenge.

It won't work.

[KGBot001]

14. Yep exactly. I knew thats why he was attacking them

He knew it would come out sooner or later so he had to discredit them

[SujiwanKenobee]

20. Of course, I want this to prove true and be the final straw but...

The news reports use these words: claims, allegations, not confirmed, potentially, not independently confirmed...
But here on DU, all these posts are running with it as though everything is proven already. I think we need to separate our wishes with what is actually the case *at this time* because nothing I can think of that we can do personally (ranting online, protests) is going to make an impact on how those in the Intel choose to deal with this.

One niggling thought is that if this release proves to be a plant, it will really destroy the credibility of our Intel branches such that nothing they come up with will be received with anything but smirks and there is much damage that can go on behind the scenes without fear of reprisal. Hopefully, this is an unfounded concern.