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DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
Wed Jan 11, 2017, 07:40 AM Jan 2017

Let's look at it backwards: What would Trump have done if Russia had blackmailed him back then?

He would have stopped defending Ukraine against russian influence.

He would have stopped defending the Baltic States against russian influence.

He would have trash-talked NATO.

He would have hailed foreign intelligence as being more trustworthy than US intelligence.

He would have proposed a new, friendlier approach with Russia that has no basis because none of the diplomatic and political problems between the US and Russia have been resolved.




Ain't that weird? Trump behaved exactly like someone who was being blackmailed...

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Let's look at it backwards: What would Trump have done if Russia had blackmailed him back then? (Original Post) DetlefK Jan 2017 OP
If he was still in a compromised position with Russia, HopeAgain Jan 2017 #1
Weird indeed. Although it's hard to imagine how bad the Russian material would FailureToCommunicate Jan 2017 #2
It would have to be something other than a sex scandal. It must be financial. The Russians could lutherj Jan 2017 #3
The report says it goes back 8 years BainsBane Jan 2017 #7
The report says he did a deal - get the Democratic hacked material released muriel_volestrangler Jan 2017 #8
To be fair NewJeffCT Jan 2017 #9
When Trump hosted SNL s-cubed Jan 2017 #4
I thought it was a roast of Trump? NewJeffCT Jan 2017 #10
K&R nt ProudProgressiveNow Jan 2017 #5
And appointed Putin lickspittle BainsBane Jan 2017 #6
Paul Manafort talking-liberally Jan 2017 #11

HopeAgain

(4,407 posts)
1. If he was still in a compromised position with Russia,
Wed Jan 11, 2017, 08:03 AM
Jan 2017

he would select somone for Secretary of State who was awarded a "Medal of Friendship" from Putin.

Contact your Senator and say NO to Tillerson.

FailureToCommunicate

(14,014 posts)
2. Weird indeed. Although it's hard to imagine how bad the Russian material would
Wed Jan 11, 2017, 08:49 AM
Jan 2017

have to be for Trump to do anything other than yawn and say 'so what, bring it. My voters don't care'

And most disturbingly the same holds true for all his voters.

Any ONE of the bullying, disgusting, traitorous thing Trump has done would have eliminated a Democrat in the myopic eyes of our National media.
Shame on them.
And shame on all the voters that voted for this Benedict Donald.
And shame on all the Dems and independents that DIDN'T vote!

lutherj

(2,496 posts)
3. It would have to be something other than a sex scandal. It must be financial. The Russians could
Wed Jan 11, 2017, 09:03 AM
Jan 2017

probably topple Trump's rickety financial empire pyramid scheme by simply cutting off his credit. If he resists they could disclose the whole history of his transactions and political deals with them. Trump would be guilty of Treason. This perspective provides one possible reason Trump is refusing Intelligence Briefs. Too much cognitive dissonance. Everything he's briefed on reminds him he's Putin's puppet and betraying American interests.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,321 posts)
8. The report says he did a deal - get the Democratic hacked material released
Wed Jan 11, 2017, 09:44 AM
Jan 2017

in return for doing what Putin wants about Ukraine, NATO etc. The 'compromising material' may have been just to get his attention.

That will be what this really hangs on - did he do a deal with Russia?

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
9. To be fair
Wed Jan 11, 2017, 10:04 AM
Jan 2017

most of the bullying, disgusting, traitorous things that Trump has done would have eliminated most Republicans as well. (Romney's numbers tanked after just the 47% comments...) The media loves Trump, however, so they've propped him up for over a year because he's good for ratings.

s-cubed

(1,385 posts)
4. When Trump hosted SNL
Wed Jan 11, 2017, 09:17 AM
Jan 2017

there was apparently only one topic he specified as off limits: how rich he was. Sorry, no link. So, if he's broke, he can be blackmailed. If he owes lots to the oligarchy there, he can be blackmailed.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
10. I thought it was a roast of Trump?
Wed Jan 11, 2017, 10:05 AM
Jan 2017

where the one topic that was off limits was his wealth. So, his creepy fondling of his daughter was an okay topic, but not people questioning his wealth.

11. Paul Manafort
Wed Jan 11, 2017, 10:33 AM
Jan 2017

He would appoint a campaign manager with close ties to Russia: Paul Manafort.

He would remove him when talk of Russian connections got hot.

BTW, I'd highly recommend reading the 35 page Buzzfeed-released intelligence document. Dry but looks authentic and very insightful, just as this post is.

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/3259984-Trump-Intelligence-Allegations.html

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