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kentuck

(111,097 posts)
Wed Jan 11, 2017, 05:10 PM Jan 2017

"I'm the President....I can have no conflicts of interest"...

What the hell is he talking about? Is that like Nixon saying, "it's not illegal if the President does it?"

How do they let him get away with such ridiculous comments?

Of course, he can have conflicts of interest... just like every other President before him could have conflicts of interest.

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"I'm the President....I can have no conflicts of interest"... (Original Post) kentuck Jan 2017 OP
Nixon on steroids. ElementaryPenguin Jan 2017 #1
he picks up more enemies every day Angry Dragon Jan 2017 #2
He's Nixon, self aware. Initech Jan 2017 #5
He's declaring himself Emperor. Adrahil Jan 2017 #3
He is very smart. Wharton! Incredible! His mind resolves all the conflicts. immoderate Jan 2017 #4
Another Steve Bannon quote. Wellstone ruled Jan 2017 #6
yes, very nixonian. someone told him conflict of interest laws exempt the president. unblock Jan 2017 #7
It's exactly like Nixon. KittyWampus Jan 2017 #8
He is referring to U.S. code Title 18, Section 208 where Congress did exempt Potus and VP Solly Mack Jan 2017 #9
One might note Sherman A1 Jan 2017 #10
L'etat c'est moi malthaussen Jan 2017 #11
Not yet, you're not, you filthy cretin. Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2017 #12
Hey, hey... please stop! Jacob Boehme Jan 2017 #13
Perhaps your sort of cretins align with meaning 1, whereas Trump aligns with meaning 2: Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2017 #14

Initech

(100,076 posts)
5. He's Nixon, self aware.
Wed Jan 11, 2017, 05:23 PM
Jan 2017

I think Nixon, for all his flaws, in the end knew what he was doing was wrong and he misled the American people. Donald Trump, on the other hand, not only knows what he is doing is wrong, he just doesn't give a fuck about it. And continues to do it, even after being told he's wrong, repeatedly.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
3. He's declaring himself Emperor.
Wed Jan 11, 2017, 05:15 PM
Jan 2017

He IS the state, therefore any action in his own interest is in the interest of the state.

I just read an essay on Hitler's political tactics. Trump is copying them almost verbatim.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
6. Another Steve Bannon quote.
Wed Jan 11, 2017, 05:25 PM
Jan 2017

Trump is not capable of understanding what he stepped into. He just makes shit up as he goes along.

unblock

(52,233 posts)
7. yes, very nixonian. someone told him conflict of interest laws exempt the president.
Wed Jan 11, 2017, 05:25 PM
Jan 2017

i'm not an expert, but i'm willing to believe that this is a correct interpretation of the relevant laws (or lack thereof).

of course, donnie shortcuts the explanation to make it seem as if the conflict of interest doesn't exist; when, in fact, it does exist, it's just not illegal. ought to be, but isn't.

Solly Mack

(90,767 posts)
9. He is referring to U.S. code Title 18, Section 208 where Congress did exempt Potus and VP
Wed Jan 11, 2017, 05:37 PM
Jan 2017

from conflicts of interest laws.

Since the office of President is so powerful, any decision by a President runs the risk of a conflict of interest for the office holder.

The potential for one, anyway.

The exemption was given based on the thinking that the President would do the right thing and divest, if necessary, and would avoid decisions that would favor the office holder personally/financially.

The exemption only works if you can trust the person in office to be honorable and honest.

Trump is neither.

Under the much touted "rule of law" no one is supposed to be above the law, but the exemption all but gives a president the legal right to utilize the office as a cash cow. Nothing prevents it legally. They leave it up to the office holders to police themselves. Congress might could impeach for it, but that's unlikely in a political environment where ones own party would choose to overlook the crimes and abuses of a president. And from everything said already, the GOP would overlook it.

To counter a president from using the office for personal gain financially, you'd have to have a decent , honest person in office, as well as a Congress that actually did its job.

ETA: The emoluments clause does apply to him. But that still depends on how willing Congress is to go after him for any abuse.



Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
14. Perhaps your sort of cretins align with meaning 1, whereas Trump aligns with meaning 2:
Wed Jan 11, 2017, 10:00 PM
Jan 2017

Definition of cretin

1 often offensive : one afflicted with cretinism

2 a stupid, vulgar, or insensitive person : clod, lout

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