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La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 02:15 AM Jan 2017

It is literally heartbreaking to see the last few days of the obama presidency

I will miss this man and his family, his love of his country, and his grace under such disgraceful obstruction, more than I ever thought possible.

i cannot believe the depth of shit he had to endure without getting any of the shit on himself.

I really hope I live long enough to see another president of this caliber again. I suspect though that this a once in a lifetime type of thing.

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It is literally heartbreaking to see the last few days of the obama presidency (Original Post) La Lioness Priyanka Jan 2017 OP
Beautifully said! Stellar Jan 2017 #1
I spent the first few days after the election Ava Jan 2017 #2
I'm angry and sad. We got cheated out of a great president La Lioness Priyanka Jan 2017 #3
exactly Ava Jan 2017 #4
That we did. n/t Lucinda Jan 2017 #6
Damn. That cartoon just made me all teary-eyed. Hekate Jan 2017 #7
Comey and Sanders supporters who refused to vote for Hillary, that' is what happened. n/t secondwind Jan 2017 #11
She ran a great campaign. She had to in order to have the whole race won decisively with 11 days StevieM Jan 2017 #15
Lol, uh huh. THANKS BERNIE!11!ELEVENTY! dionysus Jan 2017 #22
Simple. Racism, sexism, homophobia, greed, all underpinned with fundi xianism. Grey Lemercier Jan 2017 #24
That cartoon made me cry. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2017 #30
KNR Lucinda Jan 2017 #5
I agree Priyanka. I couldn't watch his farewell speech, it was making me too sad what we are still_one Jan 2017 #8
It is heartbreaking. At 69, I just hope I can live to see my country survive the Trojan Horse Hekate Jan 2017 #9
So true! trixie2 Jan 2017 #10
I haven't been here much, yet stopped in for your thread. sheshe2 Jan 2017 #12
We hold these truths to be self evident... lambchopp59 Jan 2017 #13
Probably the best President ever... yuiyoshida Jan 2017 #14
I think Obama is great but what about Lincoln and FDR? StevieM Jan 2017 #16
well just my opinion but to me ... yuiyoshida Jan 2017 #17
It is a horrible stain on his legacy, no doubt about it. I actually discussed this on FB recently. StevieM Jan 2017 #18
still, putting Japanese Americans, those who were born here yuiyoshida Jan 2017 #19
Agreed. It is a national disgrace. StevieM Jan 2017 #20
IT was more than that... yuiyoshida Jan 2017 #23
That and the NewDeal basically shutting out women and POC.... bettyellen Jan 2017 #28
I don't disagree that there was a lot of injustice back then, and there still is a lot of prejudice. StevieM Jan 2017 #34
Praise for the new deal should ALWAYS be tempered with the acknowledgement.... bettyellen Jan 2017 #35
Our society was extremely sexist and patriarchal back then. Much more so than today. StevieM Jan 2017 #36
Ha ha- it WAS sexist and patriarchal? The New Deal perpetuated and enshrined racist and sexist bettyellen Jan 2017 #37
I don't see why you seem to be upset with me. I don't think I am lacking in empathy. StevieM Jan 2017 #38
Hey, he'll be around for a long time to come! He did America proud... dionysus Jan 2017 #21
We will never see a president Uponthegears Jan 2017 #25
I say top 3 for sure and given the obstruction, his not being white in a white Eliot Rosewater Jan 2017 #26
Cannot agree more nt Uponthegears Jan 2017 #39
This says it all for me :(.. JHan Jan 2017 #27
I'm walking around pissed and grumpy already missing him The Polack MSgt Jan 2017 #29
I think the true America is leaving with him. Doreen Jan 2017 #31
K&R ismnotwasm Jan 2017 #32
I agree. He has been the best in my life. LeftInTX Jan 2017 #33
I have vague recollection of Clinton, clear ones of bush and obama La Lioness Priyanka Jan 2017 #40
It just makes me mad Jamaal510 Jan 2017 #41
Yup La Lioness Priyanka Jan 2017 #42
We entered a golden age under Obama. We're going to enter the dark ages under Trump. Initech Jan 2017 #43

Ava

(16,197 posts)
2. I spent the first few days after the election
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 02:37 AM
Jan 2017

grieving for Clinton. Then I became angry for months. And I'm still angry. But only in the past week has the deep sadness and realization that he's leaving office next week set in.

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
3. I'm angry and sad. We got cheated out of a great president
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 02:43 AM
Jan 2017

seeing obama leave would always hurt, but not this much if he had left it to HRC.

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
15. She ran a great campaign. She had to in order to have the whole race won decisively with 11 days
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 03:40 AM
Jan 2017

to go.

Even with the fake email scandal having been sold to the American people, the media's refusal to cover her policy proposals and the devastating effects of the primaries, she still had a decisive victory coming.

Not even the Russian hacking and their misinformation and manipulation was enough to beat her.

Then Comey and the FBI decided to step in to rig the election. There was nothing she could do.

still_one

(92,055 posts)
8. I agree Priyanka. I couldn't watch his farewell speech, it was making me too sad what we are
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 03:03 AM
Jan 2017

losing

Was the best President in my lifetime

lambchopp59

(2,809 posts)
13. We hold these truths to be self evident...
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 03:36 AM
Jan 2017

I believe we have just had the most true to these words president I've ever seen.
And now: Our new despot doesn't care about election rigging that he won.
But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.
2.8 million voices silenced by gerrymandering college.
and... https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-election-really-was-rigged/2016/11/29/c2ed58d8-b666-11e6-a677-b608fbb3aaf6_story.html?utm_term=.60ea7863995a

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
16. I think Obama is great but what about Lincoln and FDR?
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 03:42 AM
Jan 2017

LBJ would have been one of the best if not for Vietnam.

yuiyoshida

(41,817 posts)
17. well just my opinion but to me ...
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 03:43 AM
Jan 2017

Obama will always be the best. AS FOR FDR he ordered THE JAPANESE INTERNMENT, that's negative points with me.

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
18. It is a horrible stain on his legacy, no doubt about it. I actually discussed this on FB recently.
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 03:48 AM
Jan 2017

It is so sad that we must remember that as part of his presidency. It is so sad that the Internment happened.

But there is no denying all the good the FDR did. He prevented millions of people from starving to death. And he played a big role in stopping Hitler.

yuiyoshida

(41,817 posts)
19. still, putting Japanese Americans, those who were born here
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 03:57 AM
Jan 2017

like GEORGE TAKEI, behind barb wire fences with armed guards, and search lights that swept the ground, while someone had to go take a pee, in an outhouse... THIS is no way to live!






but damn!! They were just Japanese...

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
20. Agreed. It is a national disgrace.
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 04:03 AM
Jan 2017

And it is sickening to live in an era where textbooks in Texas seek to whitewash it.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
28. That and the NewDeal basically shutting out women and POC....
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 07:54 PM
Jan 2017

We could benefit only at the benevolence of that WWC man. It's still all about him and people don't get why we're fed up.

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
34. I don't disagree that there was a lot of injustice back then, and there still is a lot of prejudice.
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 08:42 PM
Jan 2017

We certainly saw this in our last election.

But there is no denying that the New Deal made an enormous difference in the lives of so many people. And the things that were done completely shattered previous ideological norms.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
35. Praise for the new deal should ALWAYS be tempered with the acknowledgement....
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 08:53 PM
Jan 2017

That it also PROMOTED INEQUALITY. It shut out more than half of America to bolster the other, it depended on us being free and very low wage labor to be successful.
So flat out cheerleading for it is incredibly problematic to more than half of our current population.

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
36. Our society was extremely sexist and patriarchal back then. Much more so than today.
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 09:12 PM
Jan 2017

It is not like the New Deal backtracked on previous progress IMO. If you have information that I don't have, and believe that it did backtrack, then I would be very interested in learning it.

That doesn't excuse the injustices that existed in our society at the time or the injustice and inequality that accompanied the New Deal.

My point is that the New Deal prevented millions of people from starving to death.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
37. Ha ha- it WAS sexist and patriarchal? The New Deal perpetuated and enshrined racist and sexist
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 09:20 PM
Jan 2017

Policies that yes, already existed. What part of giving a big leap forward to white men only do you think the rest of us should celebrate. For us, it promoted inequality.

I feel like I'm spinning my wheels, suffice to say if you can't have enough empathy to realize it was tainted by bigotry I don't know what else to say to you.

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
38. I don't see why you seem to be upset with me. I don't think I am lacking in empathy.
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 09:32 PM
Jan 2017

I agree that our society is sexist and patriarchal. But it is less so today than it was in the past. That is why I used the word "more."

Of course New Deal America was tainted by bigotry. Our whole society was back then. The New Deal did not change that, nor did it set out to.

I can't dismiss its importance to our people because it prevented mass starvation.

 

Uponthegears

(1,499 posts)
25. We will never see a president
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 07:47 PM
Jan 2017

Like him again.

Without the least reservation I consider him the greatest president in our nation's history.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,104 posts)
26. I say top 3 for sure and given the obstruction, his not being white in a white
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 07:51 PM
Jan 2017

supremacist country, maybe you are right, maybe he is the best.

Lincoln and FDR is who I put above him but nobody else.

The Polack MSgt

(13,175 posts)
29. I'm walking around pissed and grumpy already missing him
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 07:55 PM
Jan 2017

My wife keeps listening to speeches from the President and 1st lady, and watching the Medal of Freedom presentation to VP Biden - and then she cries.

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
41. It just makes me mad
Sat Jan 14, 2017, 12:56 AM
Jan 2017

that he'll be replaced with his sworn enemy; a guy who hounded him for his birth certificate and who lied about him being a foreigner. It's one thing to be from a different party, but it's another to be a total dickhead. It feels like an injustice to have this ignorant, loudmouth bully as the next president.

Initech

(100,015 posts)
43. We entered a golden age under Obama. We're going to enter the dark ages under Trump.
Sat Jan 14, 2017, 02:49 AM
Jan 2017

And it will take decades, centuries even to recover unless he is stopped.

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