Fri Jan 13, 2017, 07:04 AM
RBInMaine (13,570 posts)
Boycotting LL Bean is a huge MISFIRE! It is a GREAT company!!
LL Bean takes great care of its workers, makes some of its products domestically, gives millions of dollars to great causes including environmental conservation organizations and efforts, and has good products with AWESOME customer service that is unparalleled.
Yes, Linda Bean, company founder LL Bean's granddaughter, is a right wing nut who gave way too much money to a pro-Trump super pac. But she is just one of ten members of the board of directors, and LL Bean had and has NOTHING AT ALL TO DO with the nutty things Linda Bean does. LL Bean is entirely NON-POLITICAL!! Also she has other businesses, so if GrabYourWallet.com wants to boycott something then boycott THOSE. But they are listing LL Bean just because it is a nationally recognized company. Know all the facts here folks and tell those behind this call for this extremely misguided nonsense to STOP IT NOW!! It is backfiring is a very, very big way! And rightly so! Even the PROGRESSIVE commentators in Maine are writing about how STUPID this is!!
|
83 replies, 15097 views
![]() |
Author | Time | Post |
![]() |
RBInMaine | Jan 2017 | OP |
liberal N proud | Jan 2017 | #1 | |
RBInMaine | Jan 2017 | #2 | |
terip64 | Jan 2017 | #4 | |
tecelote | Jan 2017 | #6 | |
cyclonefence | Jan 2017 | #8 | |
tecelote | Jan 2017 | #10 | |
cyclonefence | Jan 2017 | #21 | |
tecelote | Jan 2017 | #26 | |
cyclonefence | Jan 2017 | #27 | |
tecelote | Jan 2017 | #32 | |
Ghost OF Trotsky | Jan 2017 | #43 | |
Iggo | Jan 2017 | #50 | |
cwydro | Jan 2017 | #40 | |
LAS14 | Jan 2017 | #55 | |
ehrnst | Jan 2017 | #15 | |
RBInMaine | Jan 2017 | #67 | |
PotatoChip | Jan 2017 | #11 | |
Maine-ah | Jan 2017 | #71 | |
hlthe2b | Jan 2017 | #3 | |
Chasstev365 | Jan 2017 | #5 | |
obamanut2012 | Jan 2017 | #7 | |
LAS14 | Jan 2017 | #56 | |
AgadorSparticus | Jan 2017 | #9 | |
Vinca | Jan 2017 | #12 | |
IronLionZion | Jan 2017 | #13 | |
Vogon_Glory | Jan 2017 | #14 | |
RBInMaine | Jan 2017 | #68 | |
Vogon_Glory | Jan 2017 | #72 | |
mainer | Jan 2017 | #16 | |
cwydro | Jan 2017 | #17 | |
dreamland | Jan 2017 | #18 | |
B2G | Jan 2017 | #19 | |
Stinky The Clown | Jan 2017 | #20 | |
cwydro | Jan 2017 | #41 | |
stonecutter357 | Jan 2017 | #22 | |
TheCowsCameHome | Jan 2017 | #23 | |
CousinIT | Jan 2017 | #24 | |
Iggo | Jan 2017 | #25 | |
dembotoz | Jan 2017 | #28 | |
hlthe2b | Jan 2017 | #45 | |
dembotoz | Jan 2017 | #65 | |
Brainstormy | Jan 2017 | #29 | |
tecelote | Jan 2017 | #33 | |
brooklynite | Jan 2017 | #63 | |
blue cat | Jan 2017 | #30 | |
Freethinker65 | Jan 2017 | #31 | |
alarimer | Jan 2017 | #34 | |
IronLionZion | Jan 2017 | #39 | |
mahatmakanejeeves | Jan 2017 | #46 | |
alarimer | Jan 2017 | #49 | |
JI7 | Jan 2017 | #73 | |
IronLionZion | Jan 2017 | #80 | |
JI7 | Jan 2017 | #81 | |
IronLionZion | Jan 2017 | #82 | |
JI7 | Jan 2017 | #83 | |
Rustyeye77 | Jan 2017 | #35 | |
RBInMaine | Jan 2017 | #69 | |
lambchopp59 | Jan 2017 | #36 | |
aikoaiko | Jan 2017 | #37 | |
hack89 | Jan 2017 | #38 | |
Zing Zing Zingbah | Jan 2017 | #42 | |
MissKat | Jan 2017 | #44 | |
saditurn | Jan 2017 | #47 | |
milestogo | Jan 2017 | #48 | |
Rustyeye77 | Jan 2017 | #57 | |
DashOneBravo | Jan 2017 | #51 | |
still_one | Jan 2017 | #52 | |
FreeStateDemocrat | Jan 2017 | #53 | |
RBInMaine | Jan 2017 | #70 | |
LAS14 | Jan 2017 | #54 | |
FreeStateDemocrat | Jan 2017 | #58 | |
HoneyBadger | Jan 2017 | #59 | |
IronLionZion | Jan 2017 | #60 | |
KosherPinay | Jan 2017 | #61 | |
wildeyed | Jan 2017 | #62 | |
NCTraveler | Jan 2017 | #64 | |
LaydeeBug | Jan 2017 | #66 | |
TrishaJ | Jan 2017 | #74 | |
NobodyHere | Jan 2017 | #75 | |
Historic NY | Jan 2017 | #76 | |
underthematrix | Jan 2017 | #77 | |
CanonRay | Jan 2017 | #78 | |
sir pball | Jan 2017 | #79 |
Response to RBInMaine (Original post)
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 07:07 AM
liberal N proud (59,612 posts)
1. I have only ever bought one item from LLBean, so not a difficult move for me
I just don't pay their inflated prices.
|
Response to liberal N proud (Reply #1)
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 07:09 AM
RBInMaine (13,570 posts)
2. It is an AWESOME company and very PROGRESSIVE in many ways. The boycott is MEGA-STUPID!!!!
Response to RBInMaine (Reply #2)
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 07:14 AM
terip64 (1,569 posts)
4. I love LL Bean. However, we need to let them this is not okay.
They can come out and make some kind of statement to clear this up, but until they do I won't be shopping there and I let them know that. We have to use every method we can to resist. The publicity will help us and send a message that people have had enough.
|
Response to terip64 (Reply #4)
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 07:30 AM
tecelote (5,088 posts)
6. They have tried but the media does not care.
http://www.pressherald.com/2017/01/09/l-l-bean-chairman-responds-to-call-for-company-boycott/
You are hurting a company in a very blue area of Maine. "...Leon Gorman, the former president and chairman of L.L. Bean who died in September 2015. According to FEC records, Gorman contributed $70,800 to the Obama Victory Fund in 2012 along with an additional $73,700 in contributions to primarily Democratic or left-leaning candidates, PACs and super PACs." http://www.pressherald.com/2017/01/12/donald-trump-tweets-praise-for-linda-bean/ |
Response to tecelote (Reply #6)
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 07:51 AM
cyclonefence (3,938 posts)
8. All well and good, but
I'm going to boycott them (and I am a customer) until they do something about Linda. They need to make her understand that her hijinks are costing the company money and she'd better back off. She benefits from my purchases from LL Bean, and I do not want to give her any more money to send to the likes of Trump. Either get her to back off or remove her from the profits flow, and I'll continue to buy Maine hunting boots from them. Otherwise, I'll find boots elsewhere.
|
Response to cyclonefence (Reply #8)
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 07:55 AM
tecelote (5,088 posts)
10. May make you feel empowered but good people are going to lose their jobs over this.
Boycott Linda's businesses.
LL Bean is an exemplary company and deserves the respect they have earned. |
Response to tecelote (Reply #10)
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 08:32 AM
cyclonefence (3,938 posts)
21. This is not an easy decision for me to make
but the responsibility for saving their workers' jobs lies with LL Bean and how they deal with Linda. They are aware of the movement to boycott them, and why; the ball is in their court.
BTW, this is how a boycott is supposed to work. Consumers pressure management to make changes or lose business. The fact that LL Bean is a fine company with values we support is actually irrelevant in this particular circumstance imo. They have a canker in their apple, and they need to cut it out. |
Response to cyclonefence (Reply #21)
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 08:36 AM
tecelote (5,088 posts)
26. Boycott Linda's businesses.
It won't hurt her much to lose a board seat. She still has her inheritance.
The people that could lose their jobs don't have that benefit. |
Response to tecelote (Reply #26)
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 08:39 AM
cyclonefence (3,938 posts)
27. All LL Bean has to do
to save their workers' jobs is to cut Linda out of any association with the mail-order business. If they are as progressive a company as it seems they are, this should be a no-brainer for them.
|
Response to cyclonefence (Reply #27)
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 08:52 AM
tecelote (5,088 posts)
32. Maybe. If it wasn't a family owned business.
One that started from scratch.
|
Response to cyclonefence (Reply #27)
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 09:13 AM
Ghost OF Trotsky (61 posts)
43. There is a good chance they can't
If she's a stockholder they can't just fire her.
I am going to continue to support them. Good stuff, made in America. In a blue area of a blue state and they treat their workers well. I have worked for companies where one of several owners was an asshole - so by your logic I should be thrown out of work, too. Thanks |
Response to tecelote (Reply #26)
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 10:22 AM
Iggo (46,315 posts)
50. I am.
And LL Bean is one of those businesses.
|
Response to cyclonefence (Reply #8)
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 09:09 AM
cwydro (48,590 posts)
40. Maine hunting boots are very good, and they don't wear out in a year.
You must really do some serious hunting/walking if you have to "continue" to buy boots from them lol.
I've never had a problem with anything I've bought from them. When I lived in the Keys, I put a lot of wear in my water sandals; they never wear out. |
Response to cyclonefence (Reply #8)
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 10:39 AM
LAS14 (12,920 posts)
55. If they "do something about Linda," they give up their non-political position.
Response to terip64 (Reply #4)
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 08:09 AM
ehrnst (32,640 posts)
15. They did make a statement - this is from FB:
(instead of boycotting - ask that they remove the one woman involved that is supporting Trump)
We were disappointed to learn that Grab Your Wallet is advocating a boycott against L.L.Bean solely because Linda Bean, who is only one of 50+ family members involved with the business, personally supported Donald Trump for President. L.L.Bean has been a family-owned business since it began back in 1912. L.L.Bean is a values driven company that has long been inspiring people to live life outdoors. For the last 105 years, L.L.Bean has been singularly focused on offering high-quality, satisfaction-guaranteed products and outstanding customer service in the Maine tradition. This commitment has allowed us to not only employ 5,000 hard-working people, but also donate tens of millions of dollars to non-profit organizations promoting environmental stewardship, educational attainment and a host of other worthy causes at the local, state and national levels. Our owners, employees, and customers hold views and embrace causes that are individual and diverse. We are united by our love for the outdoors and our guiding principles established back in 1912 by Leon Leonwood Bean himself who believed “do unto others” was not just a saying, but a way of life. We fully acknowledge and respect that some may disagree with the political views of a single member of our 10-person board of directors. Like most large families, the more than 50 family member-owners of the business hold views and embrace causes across the political spectrum, just as our employees and customers do. And as every member of the family would agree, no individual alone speaks on behalf of the business or represents the values of the company that L.L. built. With this in mind, we are deeply troubled by the portrayal of L.L.Bean as a supporter of any political agenda. L.L.Bean does not endorse political candidates, take positions on political matters, or make political contributions. Simply put, we stay out of politics. To be included in this boycott campaign is simply misguided, and we respectfully request that Grab Your Wallet reverse its position. Shawn Gorman L.L.Bean Executive Chairman |
Response to terip64 (Reply #4)
Sat Jan 14, 2017, 08:16 AM
RBInMaine (13,570 posts)
67. They have. They have said they had nothing to do with it. ENOUGH!!!!
Again, and for the last EXTREMELY CLEAR time, LL Bean had NOTHING, I repeat, NOTHING to do with the private actions of Linda Bean who is the granddaughter of the founder and just ONE member of their board. So enough of this nonsense!
VERY progressive political commentators in Maine are even saying how STUPID this is! |
Response to RBInMaine (Reply #2)
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 07:57 AM
PotatoChip (3,186 posts)
11. Also, the Bean family (minus Linda) donated to Obama's 2012 Victory Fund.
The late L.L. Bean president Leon Gorman and his wife, Lisa Gorman, hosted fundraisers for Democratic gubernatorial candidate Michael Michaud, shelled out $70,000 to the Obama Victory Fund in 2012 and donated to members of Maine's congressional delegation, including Republican U.S. Sen. Susan Collins. Lisa Gorman has donated to Democratic parties across the country and donated $33,400 to the Democratic National Committee last summer.
Read more here: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/national-politics/article126047109.html#storylink=cpy |
Response to RBInMaine (Reply #2)
Sat Jan 14, 2017, 08:21 AM
Maine-ah (9,902 posts)
71. if anyone wants to hit her in the pocketbook
then they should actually be staying away from Linda Bean's restaurants and lobster products. Too bad that it will hit the lobstermen in my area that sell to her, but I'm sure they can find other buyers.
|
Response to RBInMaine (Original post)
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 07:10 AM
hlthe2b (95,585 posts)
3. Yes... I would support them, but I have contacted them to let them know...
that the company MUST find a way to remove this woman from their board of directors--something that threats to the bottom line fully justifies. I let them know that I intend to support them because of their past good record, but going forward, this situation MUST be dealt with.
|
Response to RBInMaine (Original post)
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 07:15 AM
Chasstev365 (5,191 posts)
5. These Things Get Difficult
I am a life long Chicago Cubs fan, yet really hate the owner Ricketts famity who are not only pro-Trump; Todd Ricketts is IN Benedict Donald's administration.
|
Response to RBInMaine (Original post)
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 07:40 AM
obamanut2012 (23,711 posts)
7. They need to dismiss her from the board today
I have bought many things from them over several decades -- clothes, lines, skis, fishing rods, a kayak. I stopped yesterday. Only REI will get my money until she is removed from the board, which is what I told them yesterday in both an email and a call.
It is time to get tough, and people need to sever all business contacts with Trump supporters if they want my money. These people need to be made pariahs. I have been to the original store several times, and I know they help the community. But they need to axe Linda Bean. |
Response to obamanut2012 (Reply #7)
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 10:39 AM
LAS14 (12,920 posts)
56. Then they are no longer "non political"
Response to RBInMaine (Original post)
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 07:54 AM
AgadorSparticus (7,963 posts)
9. It won't be hard for me to boycott LLBean. I tend to buy Eddie Bauer anyways.
Response to RBInMaine (Original post)
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 07:57 AM
Vinca (49,044 posts)
12. I've shopped from Beans since the 1960's and I'll keep buying their flannel sheets and tote bags.
Linda Bean sounds like a grade A nutball. Every family has them. The company doesn't appear to be involved in her wingnuttery so I'll be hitting the store the next time I'm traveling through Freeport.
|
Response to RBInMaine (Original post)
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 07:59 AM
IronLionZion (41,537 posts)
13. Linda Bean was under fire for illegal contributions to Trump
which is why Trump tweeted his endorsement of the company.
I like their products and service and many of their products are made in America. Didn't know much about their politics. This picture is from their Maine factory: ![]() https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/12/us/politics/linda-bean-ll-bean-boycott.html |
Response to RBInMaine (Original post)
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 08:08 AM
Vogon_Glory (8,646 posts)
14. I will not boycott LL Bean because a director is a wing-nut
I will not boycott LL Bean because one director is a wing-nut. If I'm going to boycott a company, it's because the company as a whole is doing something reprehensible, the majority-stockholders are knuckle-dragging reactionaries, or because the CEO has become a dark lord of the Sith. Having a wing-nut director isn't enough.
|
Response to Vogon_Glory (Reply #14)
Sat Jan 14, 2017, 08:17 AM
RBInMaine (13,570 posts)
68. She is just ONE member of the board of directors and this had NOTHING to do with the company.
Response to RBInMaine (Reply #68)
Sun Jan 15, 2017, 05:25 PM
Vogon_Glory (8,646 posts)
72. Hey, I agree with you. It's not like she's a majority stockholder. N/t
Response to RBInMaine (Original post)
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 08:15 AM
mainer (11,739 posts)
16. Leon Gorman was a big Obama supporter
as was his wife.
Lisa Gorman, who is married to L.L. Bean Chairman Leon Gorman, is No. 4. Gorman has given $57,800 to committees to re-elect Obama, $10,000 to the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee, and $6,000 to the Jewish activist group Joint Action Committee for Political Affairs.
http://www.pressherald.com/2012/10/20/top-political-donors-betting-on-democrats_2012-10-20/ |
Response to RBInMaine (Original post)
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 08:18 AM
cwydro (48,590 posts)
17. I've been a customer for years.
I have no intention of boycotting.
|
Response to RBInMaine (Original post)
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 08:23 AM
dreamland (958 posts)
18. LL Bean can make amends, have them donate to the DNC
There are lots of great companies out there, like Hobby Lobby
![]() ![]() |
Response to RBInMaine (Original post)
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 08:25 AM
B2G (9,766 posts)
19. I'm wearing one of their waffle T-shirts as I type this.
Love their products, won't boycott.
|
Response to RBInMaine (Original post)
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 08:26 AM
Stinky The Clown (65,798 posts)
20. Yeahbutbutbutbut . . . . . .
. . . . . It is something people can do while sitting around ranting impotently.
|
Response to Stinky The Clown (Reply #20)
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 09:12 AM
cwydro (48,590 posts)
41. Lol.
Nailed it.
I bet half the posters threatening a boycott have never bought a single item from Bean. |
Response to RBInMaine (Original post)
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 08:33 AM
stonecutter357 (12,459 posts)
22. If she voted for racists trump she is a deplorable POS just like him...
Times have changed and now many of their items are no longer American made,
|
Response to RBInMaine (Original post)
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 08:33 AM
TheCowsCameHome (40,049 posts)
23. Linda is the crazy aunt in the family. An outlier.
We will continue to buy their merchandise, as we have for well over 50 years.
|
Response to RBInMaine (Original post)
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 08:34 AM
CousinIT (7,821 posts)
24. I have asshole wingnuts in my family too.
I can buy that Linda Bean (she has her own restaurant, boycott that!) is an asshole wingnut while the company LLBean may be OK or even support "liberal" causes ie: environmental protections, etc.
I posted about boycotting them the other day but a few have said the company itself isn't Linda Bean the asshole wingnut. So...OK. I will relent on that. I've not heard of #GrabYourWallet though. (?) Their prices are - yes - higher than WalMart or JCPenney. However, I've been buying from them for years and their products are far superior to others and last - FOREVER. IOW the quality of the stuff is top notch. Flannel sheets, boots, gloves, fleece tops, pajamas, pants, flannel shirts, etc. And shipping is always free. So there's that. I would personally hate having to give up my LLBean stuff or not shop there again. So....I'll wait and see. Meanwhile that crusty old idiot Linda Bean...maybe the locals can boycott her restaurant or something? |
Response to RBInMaine (Original post)
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 08:36 AM
Iggo (46,315 posts)
25. So, kick her off the board then, oh great company.
Response to RBInMaine (Original post)
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 08:46 AM
dembotoz (15,640 posts)
28. as a family memeber what if they CAN NOT kick her off the board
i have seen strange stuff with family operations,..,,,
their hands may be tied |
Response to dembotoz (Reply #28)
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 09:49 AM
hlthe2b (95,585 posts)
45. If that is the case, they need to make that clear in their response (including the specific "whys"
Response to hlthe2b (Reply #45)
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 01:57 PM
dembotoz (15,640 posts)
65. again....lawyers
Response to RBInMaine (Original post)
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 08:46 AM
Brainstormy (2,352 posts)
29. May be. but they're overpriced as hell
I've pretty much been boycotting them all my life
|
Response to Brainstormy (Reply #29)
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 08:54 AM
tecelote (5,088 posts)
33. I have boots from ten years ago and they're still good.
I consider them as saving me money.
|
Response to Brainstormy (Reply #29)
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 12:48 PM
brooklynite (84,566 posts)
63. You can probably buy cheaper boots manufactured in China, rather than in Maine...
...we like foreign trade, don't we?
|
Response to RBInMaine (Original post)
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 08:47 AM
blue cat (2,390 posts)
30. Boycott LLBean!!! N/t
Response to RBInMaine (Original post)
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 08:47 AM
Freethinker65 (7,863 posts)
31. I will continue to boycott Lands End
because of that company's recent appeasement to conservatives. I will not be boycotting LLBean because if one pro-Trump heiress/board member. If I hear/read that LLBean, the company, does something to warrant a boycott, I will do my own research and not rely solely on a random blog, or even just DU, to make my decision.
|
Response to RBInMaine (Original post)
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 08:54 AM
alarimer (16,245 posts)
34. Liberals shooting their nose off to spite their face, once again. n/t
I wonder if this wasn't some Machiavellian move on Trump's part. He tells us to support a company because he knows progressives will start a boycott and hopefully (in his mind) do damage. This would require Trump to be smart, so I doubt he is actually capable of tha kind of multi-level thinking. He's just uniformed, because the company itself has distanced itself from Linda Bean.
|
Response to alarimer (Reply #34)
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 09:05 AM
IronLionZion (41,537 posts)
39. The eager willingness to throw American workers under the bus
is among the biggest reasons we lost the election and winnable Senate seats in traditionally blue states
Boycotts of companies that make stuff in America really screws a lot of good liberal voters and normal people who just want to feed their kids. |
Response to IronLionZion (Reply #39)
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 09:58 AM
mahatmakanejeeves (50,298 posts)
46. I agree entirely.
Telling workers they can just find some other job, because someone they've never met is on the board of directors, is no way to win elections.
Elsewhere, I noted that L.L. Bean contracts out its work (or least it used to), so the jobs will be lost all over. |
Response to IronLionZion (Reply #39)
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 10:19 AM
alarimer (16,245 posts)
49. I don't know their overall record.
I have heard pretty good things overall. But I think we need to be skeptical of anything Donald Trump tweets and not just run to do the opposite.
Ultimately this is going to blow over, as most boycotts do. It is possibly bad publicity for the company and they should address it more thoroughly. This does speak to larger issues regarding Donald Trump and his power to move markets with a single tweet. That is very bad, no matter who is the target. It could potentially destabilize the economy. |
Response to IronLionZion (Reply #39)
Sun Jan 15, 2017, 05:28 PM
JI7 (87,640 posts)
73. no the reason we lost was because of russia comey
Response to JI7 (Reply #73)
Sun Jan 15, 2017, 07:23 PM
IronLionZion (41,537 posts)
80. Those damn Russians
![]() |
Response to IronLionZion (Reply #80)
Sun Jan 15, 2017, 07:26 PM
JI7 (87,640 posts)
81. So you want to ignore the hacking and comey not informing about
What ge recieved on trump but making the email bs public ?
|
Response to JI7 (Reply #81)
Sun Jan 15, 2017, 07:31 PM
IronLionZion (41,537 posts)
82. Comey and Russians
Did not stop people from voting D in traditionally blue states. They voted based on things like trade policy and misguided beliefs about manufacturing and energy jobs, and more than a few were against immigrants and feminists
|
Response to IronLionZion (Reply #82)
Sun Jan 15, 2017, 07:39 PM
JI7 (87,640 posts)
83. they did not vote on trade as pro trade republicans got the most votes
And Hillary got more votes than anti trade republucans.
And those states have been moving right with scott walker and other republicans winning. So based on actual votes it's the pro trade which got the most votes and anti trade the least. Plus she won the votes of all groups that said economy was their top concern. And hillarys numbers went down with comey making public the email nothing crap. |
Response to RBInMaine (Original post)
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 08:55 AM
Rustyeye77 (2,736 posts)
35. Boycott.
I don't want my money going to Pee Brain.
|
Response to Rustyeye77 (Reply #35)
Sat Jan 14, 2017, 08:18 AM
RBInMaine (13,570 posts)
69. The "boycott" is MEGA STUPID and is BACKFIRING in a big way. Total and complete NONSENSE.
Response to RBInMaine (Original post)
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 09:01 AM
lambchopp59 (2,462 posts)
36. L.L. Bean does have a few gaps in their HRC equality score of 60,
but not altogether a bad company.
Anyone know of a petition letter to them Re: this? I'm also an REI shopper, retail outlets are more common here on the left coast. REI's HRC score is an impressive 95 to boot. |
Response to RBInMaine (Original post)
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 09:03 AM
aikoaiko (33,180 posts)
37. I hardly ever agree with your OPs, but I do agree with this one.
I not going to stop buying things from companies because someone who was paid by the company donated to a RWer. |
Response to RBInMaine (Original post)
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 09:04 AM
hack89 (39,097 posts)
38. I have no intention of boycotting. Nt
Response to RBInMaine (Original post)
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 09:13 AM
Zing Zing Zingbah (6,496 posts)
42. They are stepping up production of their American made boots
Opening a new manufacturing facility in Lewiston, ME, which will be about 140 new jobs for the area. I can't complain about that. That's good news for a lot of people in my area.
|
Response to RBInMaine (Original post)
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 09:43 AM
MissKat (217 posts)
44. I like LLBean products
Right now, for that tweet to come from the Orange One's fingers was more than I could stand.
I sent one of my, "the pussy grabber will never be my president" post cards I keep at the ready. I think we're all so very angry at what's going on that we're looking for a way to hit someone/something. We need to get organized, which is what we're doing on DU. We need to find a way to strike out at this terrible, horrible, awful, man who somehow (with the help of Russia and lies) got into office. Poor LLBean, looks like they got in the target zone. They need to dismiss Linda from the board or publicly censure her or call her out. What she did was illegal. They have a right to chastise her. They need to. On the other hand, it looks like lots of Republicans have asked for catalogs, so they'll be busy. I hope they choose to stand up and say, our relative did something illegal and because of that we have removed her from the board/ or if they can't remove her, they can ask her to step aside--publicly. Not because of her politics, but because what she did was illegal. |
Response to RBInMaine (Original post)
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 10:12 AM
saditurn (3 posts)
47. Torn
Like most of the people responding here, I've been a long time supporter of L L Bean - the company may not embody all of my ideals but it's generally there, especially its basic brand identification with nature.
I woke up to the Linda Bean issue last week and started to feel queasy - so immediately did some research and felt comfortable with the company's response which echoes what many here have said - that it's one relative who happens to hold a position (one of many) on the board. Obviously every organization is going to be seeded with people who one agrees and disagrees with, so I was willing to look past that. BUT, my tipping point was yesterday when I woke up (thanks, 3am ranter!) to trumP's tweet that literally demanded people to "Buy L.L. Bean". Fine, one can read it as a demand or an endorsement or whatever, but it clearly puts LL Bean in a flash point position which it didn't ask for and frankly doesn't deserve. But it's there. In my case, my primary connection to the company is my credit card - the one and only I've ever had, and now for probably 15 years. It suddenly feels dirty, like an admission of some kind of collusion any time I would have to pull it out and use it at a store. Most people wouldn't notice or be clued in to the issue, but those that are would either (a) wrongly think I'm on their side or (b) wrongly think I'm not on their side. This is probably why, per the NY Times, "Federal law prohibits employees of the government’s executive branch from endorsing products". Unfortunately for the world, the quote goes on: ", but the rule does not apply to the president or the president-elect." LL Bean is unfairly victimized here no matter what. And trumP is going to win on this issue no matter what as his calls will be answered by some, and probably more than the supporters who are willing to (at least temporarily) boycott - so he'll be able to claim that his side is right & he saved the company or whatever. (Even though people who stand by their principles and stick with the company know that it is their strength that is ultimately triumphing) Regardless, for me, I will be canceling my LL Bean credit card. If the ACLU offered one it would be in my pocket in no time! (Does anyone know of any "use for good" cards?) I'll probably still purchase from LL Bean from time to time (the irony is that their products are so good & lasting that you don't need to buy often). So I guess I'm the lucky one who can thread the needle and boycott while still not completely boycotting. Which makes me loved by all or hated by all. What a lovely world. |
Response to RBInMaine (Original post)
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 10:16 AM
milestogo (14,247 posts)
48. I LOVE MY COUNTRY MORE THAN MY OVERPRICED HIKING BOOTS
and it's not your business to tell me where to shop. |
Response to milestogo (Reply #48)
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 10:39 AM
Rustyeye77 (2,736 posts)
57. If Pee brain wants me to buy, forget it.
I feel bad that people agree with him.
|
Response to RBInMaine (Original post)
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 10:31 AM
DashOneBravo (2,585 posts)
51. No boycotting here
Response to RBInMaine (Original post)
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 10:35 AM
still_one (86,973 posts)
52. Perhaps they can thank trump for that then, because his tweet just put LLBean right into
the political spotlight with this:
"Thank you to Linda Bean of L.L.Bean for your great support and courage. People will support you even more now. Buy L.L.Bean." |
Response to RBInMaine (Original post)
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 10:36 AM
FreeStateDemocrat (2,654 posts)
53. Fuck'em, the right wingnuts only understand one thing MONEY!!!
Response to FreeStateDemocrat (Reply #53)
Sat Jan 14, 2017, 08:19 AM
RBInMaine (13,570 posts)
70. Boycotting LL Bean is ULTRA-STUPID and BACKFIRING BIGTIME!!
Response to RBInMaine (Original post)
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 10:37 AM
LAS14 (12,920 posts)
54. Excellent suggestion. GrabYourWallet should boycott Linda's sole ownership businesses.
Response to RBInMaine (Original post)
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 10:44 AM
FreeStateDemocrat (2,654 posts)
58. Fuck'em, the right wingnuts only understand one thing MONEY!!!
What liberals needs to understand now that it is important that we hit back anywhere we can take a shot.
The deplorable sanctimonious biddy that never wanted for anything in life needs to go away, she besmirches their corporate identity, Bean corp is an enabler of the right wing noise machine so economic pain needs to be inflicted. Boycott cable news so when you cut their revenues, they get the message. Past time to make nice or nuance the issues it is class war and I know what side I'm support. |
Response to RBInMaine (Original post)
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 11:24 AM
HoneyBadger (2,297 posts)
59. I am going to boycotted them and spend my money at Macy's.
They both employ good and bad people, you need to draw a line.
|
Response to RBInMaine (Original post)
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 11:26 AM
IronLionZion (41,537 posts)
60. Trump tweet on L.L.Bean would break White House rule
Response to RBInMaine (Original post)
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 11:37 AM
KosherPinay (5 posts)
61. Whose money?
Did she donate her own personal money or was L.L. Beans money used for the donation? BIG difference in boycotting a company. |
Response to RBInMaine (Original post)
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 12:20 PM
wildeyed (11,240 posts)
62. They really need to be mad at PEEOTUS.
He is the one who blew up their brand with his stupid, inappropriate tweet. I like LL Bean and was super-mad initially until I researched a bit. Now I feel bad for them.
|
Response to RBInMaine (Original post)
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 12:50 PM
NCTraveler (30,481 posts)
64. I don't think it's backfiring in a very, very big way.
I do think the rest of your point is very accurate.
|
Response to RBInMaine (Original post)
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 02:02 PM
LaydeeBug (10,291 posts)
66. The Board can remove her or it can continue. She is using LL Bean profit to funnel to
right wingers.
Nope. Too many REAL American companies that deserve our dollars. |
Response to RBInMaine (Original post)
Sun Jan 15, 2017, 06:20 PM
TrishaJ (748 posts)
74. I love LL Bean and I will not
boycott LL Bean. I bought something from them today.
|
Response to RBInMaine (Original post)
Sun Jan 15, 2017, 06:22 PM
NobodyHere (2,810 posts)
75. I have no idea what LL Bean is
Response to RBInMaine (Original post)
Sun Jan 15, 2017, 06:33 PM
Historic NY (36,508 posts)
76. Well its donaldjtrumps fault....
everything he touches from twitter eventually dies off.
|
Response to RBInMaine (Original post)
Sun Jan 15, 2017, 06:48 PM
underthematrix (5,792 posts)
77. LL Bean is not the enemy. The relative who donated personally to Trump has a right to do so.
They really are a great WOKE company
By boycotting this company we give Trump power he shouldn't have. Let's be strategic and keep going after the GOP controlled Congress. We shouldn't buy any of Trump's products. We should post pics of leaders/people who book at his hotels and drag their ass all over twitter and facebook. That would be much more powerful. |
Response to RBInMaine (Original post)
Sun Jan 15, 2017, 06:57 PM
CanonRay (12,900 posts)
78. When they kick that idiot off the board I'll start buying again.
In the meantime I have very few ways of expressing my outrage, but my wallet is one.
|
Response to RBInMaine (Original post)
Sun Jan 15, 2017, 06:57 PM
sir pball (4,383 posts)
79. +1, they make the best mountaineering shell I own
A Sugarloaf lift jockey jacket, granted I didn't pay for it, just adopted from one of my stoner cooks in Maine, but it's absolutely bulletproof, totally weather-sealed (OG GoreTex), and full of useful pockets and accessories. It's seriously better than my $500 North Face, that's lighter but has no bells or whistles at all. I doubt you can get better gear at any price.
|