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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSo Hillary Will Attend the Inauguration
And in the doing, she will stand with her head held high, knowing that she was the choice of the people, that her message was embraced by the majority of the citizenry, that her voice (and ours) was heard and will never be silenced.
More importantly, her attendance will exemplify who she is, and always has been: a woman whose strength of character can never be diminished by a political loss, and whose courage when facing her adversaries can never be erased.
Her presence will serve as a reminder that she never backs down, never gives up, and never forgets who she is, and who she represents.
In other words, Hillary will once again show the world that she is everything Trump is not and could never hope to be.
Im good with that.
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)BainsBane
(53,075 posts)I can't help but feel disappointed and also concerned for her. He's such a horrible man that treated her so badly. She must have a phenomenal level of emotional strength to do that.
Still, I'm not so secretly hoping she'll change her mind and go hang out with John Lewis instead.
NanceGreggs
(27,820 posts)And that's the point. And it will not go unnoticed.
Cha
(297,777 posts)full display.
Not watching but will be with her in spirit.. President Obama, too.. and Bill and Michelle.
NanceGreggs
(27,820 posts)No need. I know I will be beautifully represented by the woman who represents ALL of us.
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)Aloha, Cha!
Cha
(297,777 posts)BainsBane
(53,075 posts)I'll be at work. I am going to a protest on Saturday.
Bettie
(16,132 posts)are those who already are aware of it.
Trumpkins will simply see it as a "loser" (who won, but never mind that) sucking up to the new emperor.
LittleGirl
(8,292 posts)Cha
(297,777 posts)Mahalo for saying it so eloquently.
I support the Dems who are not attending but Hillary has a different role. She does represent those who voted for the Democratic Principles of helping people.. not giving tax breaks to billionaires as people lose their healthcare. Not sucking up to Russia because they helped get you elected. Not trying to start a war with China because russia
Hillary has every reason to hold her head high.. she won the popular vote by almost 3 million dollars. She ran an excellent campaign.. I don't care who is saying she didn't.
I think it will actually piss trump off that she is there to remind everyone. I read he has tweets lately still fighting the GE. The trump fans will hiss and seethe and she will remain strong.
NanceGreggs
(27,820 posts)Same here. She DOES have a different role - and she will play that role to perfection, just as she always has.
Cha
(297,777 posts)wrote this!
uhnope
(6,419 posts)but she should go back to staying out of the spotlight afterward
NanceGreggs
(27,820 posts)... the spotlight is hers.
Cha
(297,777 posts)uhnope
(6,419 posts)true nor advisable
George II
(67,782 posts)oasis
(49,426 posts)As soon as the camera pans over the former Presidents and First Ladies seated nearby, there will be a collective awakening by the viewing public.
Fearless
(18,421 posts)If it were me I would join the boycott. Because sometimes things are bigger than ourselves.
NanceGreggs
(27,820 posts)And sometimes being willing to stand up for those "bigger things" is the best way to demonstrate exactly how important those "bigger things" are.
7962
(11,841 posts)As then nations tradition dictates. Putting herself above the fray of others and attending, as a former first lady
BainsBane
(53,075 posts)FYI
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)I guess those pesky 'identity politics' just don't support Bernie's efforts to "make change from the inside" of the system. (new slogan from "our revolution"
Bettie
(16,132 posts)boycotting.
Frankly, I wish all of the Dems would refuse to attend. Just let it be their tiny, sad party.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)ciaobaby
(1,000 posts)ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Hillary was the candidate who opposed Trump, and was the target of many GOP threats which is not the case with Bernie **or any of the other Senators I am disappointed in for attending.***
Bernie has styled himself as the ersatz leader of "progressives" who will be actually working with Trump, so not coming to the inauguration would be a protest of what they will be working with. Not supporting the new boss as it were.
She will not be working with him. Her absence could be construed as being afraid to show her face, and in direct contradiction to Donald's promis to "lock her up" or even intimidate her.
I hope she is there wearing a lens cracking purple and orange ensemble, because she will be on camera.
Unlike the Senators.
Is that clearer?
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)And if she doesn't show up, so many will say that she was broken, and afraid. If she does, then they will say that she is the "real republican" that so many claimed she was.
dionysus
(26,467 posts)Bernie is bad cause he didn't boycott.. hillary is strong and wise because she didn't boycott...
ciaobaby
(1,000 posts)ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Last edited Wed Jan 18, 2017, 10:49 AM - Edit history (1)
For Hillary to face him down is courage, especially since the GOP has threatened to continue investigating her, and Trump has singled her out for abuse.
She will be on camera a lot, in direct contradiction to Trump's claims that he would "Lock her UP!" I hope she wears something garish to pull focus.
Bernie likes to portray himself as being the ersatz leader of "progressives" and as someone who will be a part of a body that will deal directly with the illigitimate administration, to refuse to participate from the start would send a message.
I am disappointed in any Democrat that decides to go to the inauguration.
Is that clearer?
Cha
(297,777 posts)to say about her.. they don't know her... making up shit about her like they know anything.
MOre brainwashing shit they swallowed.. "real republican"
Jim Beard
(2,535 posts)She really looks rested and I am OK with that.
dionysus
(26,467 posts)hanging over her, and she is wealthy beyond imagination... she has the right to enjoy the rest of her life in splendor, she earned it.
Jim Beard
(2,535 posts)dionysus
(26,467 posts)football team. _____ or else!
____ looks refreshed and recovered... what, did they just go though some kind of life threatening trauma?
They are all filthy rich, with the exception of bernie. Other than him, they can go home and cry on a pile of hundred dollar bills, and when they wake up, sweep the 100s into a fireplace, burn em, and get a new pile for tmmrw. Doesnt mean they don't care about us, just means they'll never fear the consequences of government like we do.
Even bernie, he may not be rich, but i bet his house is paid for, and his lifelong pension and heath care means he can weather the worst of a rethug presidency as well.
People used to say obama fans went too far, seems almost everyone really into a candidate goes too far with hero worship! I'd say manynhillary people on DU take her loss harder than she herself does!
nini
(16,672 posts)Talk about fans going too far? You just did exactly what you're accusing others of.
nini
(16,672 posts)ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Or worrying about his impending retirement.
dionysus
(26,467 posts)Guy for some reason. Why is that? He's probably the least wealthy.of them, but even he has it better than most people...
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)using Sanders fan talking points just brings it out in me.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)really goes too far.
dionysus
(26,467 posts)These politicians would get a good chuckle over how many people idolize rhem.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)I think Bernie is banking on how many people idolize him.
dionysus
(26,467 posts)politician DOES live in the lap of luxury. That happens when you get paid 200k for an hour long speech. Again, that's fine, i also pointed out that your obsession, bernie, is more well to do than most people as well.
Since i didn't address you personally in any of my posts, i wonder why it struck such a nerve.
I never insinuated that you idolize any rich politicians.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)I never claimed that you said I idolize rich politicians, just that I wondered why all the comments that indicated that her income seemed to strike a nerve with you.
dionysus
(26,467 posts)Politicians and rheir constituents means they can never truly relate to working people, ever, if they were born that way, or after a while, if they were not rich at the beginning of their career.
It doesn't mean having money is bad, per se (notice the roosevelts, kennedies, and kerries were not tainted by wealth), it just means they are almost from a different world entirely. That makes it hard for them, if not imlossible, to know what it's like for everybody else. Mot just the money itself, it's being in that bubble. You never drive yourself atound, never go shopping, in cases never truly go out in public (without an entourage of security).
Remember a big thing that sunk papa bush, they tried to humanize him, and threw him out into the public... the poor bastard had never seen a grocery scanner before, he was amazed by the thing... he had no idea what things cost... it made a huge difference. People knew he was so out of touch with the common person, there was no way on earth he could relatw to them
I'm not saying every politician is *that* bad, but it affects them all, in one way or another.
That's where i was going with it.
A different issue that relates to money is, there's also a lot of people who have made a career in government, but it's not to help people or be responsible steward of government...
For some it's as simple as being able to affect their business interests, to make money. Get into power so you can lower your taxes, or deregulate the industry you are a part of (mostly a rethuglican trait)
For others, it could be personal ambition, or ego driven. Some people view life as a meritocracy; you are only as good as the highest rung on the ladder you stand on. They like trappings of government, the respect it commands (this could be any party). This may even have benevolent intentions. Even if you're a good guy, it takes a HELL of a lot of ego to think that you are, above all other Americans, best suited to lead the country. That's elitist by nature. There are some, not many but some, people who are solely in the game to serve the interests of the nation, but they become rarer and rarer the higher you go in government.
The worst ones, IMHO; once you've gotten to a certain level of wealth, there is only on thing that trumps money, and that is power. The power trippers who get off on ruling peoples lives, telling them what they can and can't do. Imagine the power they feel, when they can limit the reproductive choices of women, or tell people who they can or can't marry! There's nothing better than that to them, having concrete control of people's actions in such a personal issue.
That whole second half of the post has nothing to do with what we were talking about but i got on a roll typing, my bad
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)the people with actual ability to work with others, in groups, and be able to sit at the table, unintimidated and equal with the most powerful business interests working for us in government. (Trump is not one of those people - I truly believe that had he not been born wealthy, he would be dead or in jail with other mob members)
Many of those people go on to have successful careers, which give them experience in working with others.
My spouse's father was in politics, a mayor of a mid-sized city. We both came to the conclusion that the majority of political office work is management. You bring laws up to date with where people are, and you keep the wheels turning. If you can't do that, all the vision and charisma in the world won't bring you up to the task. That management takes experience in bringing people together, and many of those people go into business. And yes, it does take ego. Female politicians are hammered for saying that they are good leaders, but praised for saying things like, "Well, I saw so many things going wrong, and I just had to try to do something about it." I saw a lot of that hammering this election
Paul Wellstone came into politics from academics (my father in law knew and worked with Paul on a few conservation issues), but he would still be considered by many to be an ivory tower academic elite.
I don't agree that a 'certain level of wealth' turns you into a craven powermonger automatically, any more than not having a lot of wealth somehow makes you a more trustworthy or effective politician.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Bravo.
dionysus
(26,467 posts)ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Including the passive aggressive qualifier "so far as I know..."
dionysus
(26,467 posts)I don't think she has anything to gain from goldman sachs
lillypaddle
(9,581 posts)MFM008
(19,823 posts)Any Democrat will be there.
I get it but still.
bigtree
(86,008 posts)...but I do think she's probably wise to not let her individual actions detract from the rest of the opposition and resistance. It isn't about Hillary versus Trump, anymore.
We got this.
Justice
(7,188 posts)HoneyBadger
(2,297 posts)dionysus
(26,467 posts)ehrnst
(32,640 posts)And being the one to declare when John Lewis and Corey Booker are "right" as though his approval bestows that definition...
handmade34
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Cha
(297,777 posts)lies about Hillary.
betsuni
(25,684 posts)This was new to me, the fantasy about a drunken rage and throwing "a bottle of $9K wine at a TV screen and destroying a fancy cake." A FANCY CAKE. These nuts are making me thirsty.
Cha
(297,777 posts)LOL@you being thirsty!
Quackers
(2,256 posts)Cha
(297,777 posts)up.. like they came from the idiot trump's mouth himself.
Brother Buzz
(36,478 posts)The MIR Team just expedited the exit visa.
Solomon
(12,319 posts)I don't see how going is exhibiting emotional strength, etc. blah blah blah. Seems like a signal that she's buckled under to this asshole, no different than the fickle republicans who started off fighting Trump only to cave under and take their place as wimps. Sorry. That's the way I see it and I was one of her biggest supporters. You all can spin this into something fabulous, but I ain't buying it. The man is still saying degrading things about her and the message is, as always, he can say and do whatever the hell he wants to and everyone still sucks his ass.
OldRedneck
(1,397 posts)Her attendance is an act of class and grace . . . two important personal qualities completely lacking in The Trumpster.
She's attending with her husband, a former President
Solomon
(12,319 posts)She has to prove she has class and grace? She should be careful to not look like a groveler.
JHan
(10,173 posts)against the PeeStain about to take the Oval Office.
I hope she whispers in his ear that she won the pop. vote.
Once President, Trump won't know what hit him and he will be embarrassed bigly - it's only a matter of time. His inauguration might well turn out to be the worst day of his life.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)ehrnst
(32,640 posts)She has grace and class - do you think that standing up tall instead of hiding away is the opposite of that?
NanceGreggs
(27,820 posts)... equates to "groveling"?
What a bizarre thing to say.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)How is that groveling?
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)dionysus
(26,467 posts)not just beat a terminal disease... for christs sake with the melodrama, she is going home to tens of millions of dollars in the bank, a life of luxury none of us here could even dream of... you got people here who have sobbed over her loss, even she, having lost the election herself, doesn't feel that bad over it!
It's not like she was joan or arc and got burned at the stake here, or was hurled into the pits of mordor upon losing.....she will live out the rest of her life in the lap of luxury!
I garauntee you she herself would laugh her ass off at all the people here all like "zomg she's so strong, going there so soon!"
Ai ai ai....
(And no, i don't begrudge her her fortune at all, she's earned it fair and square. Just let us not act like she went through some traumatizing, horrible event)
NanceGreggs
(27,820 posts)... that having "millions in the bank" is not the be-all and end-all for everyone. There are those who put service to others ahead of how much money they have, those who think living a productive life is more important than "living a life of luxury".
"Even she, having lost the election herself, doesn't feel that bad over it!"
How do you know how she feels about anything? Do you honestly think that after an exhausting campaign, having to deal with the GOP, the endless "investigations", the fake news, the false accusations, the ridicule, the constant criticism - all while preparing herself for the most important job on the planet - and then losing to a moron who has absolutely NO intention of doing what's right for the country and its citizens, she just figured, "Oh, la-dee-da, I'll just go home and count my money"?
If Hillary was content with "living in the lap of luxury", she could have been doing so for many, many years now. But she put up with everything she just went through in order to pursue something far more important than lounging around the pool, sipping champagne and flipping through fashion magazines.
Thank God for people like her, who see service to their country as a worthwhile endeavour, without regard to how much money they may or may not have.
Cha
(297,777 posts)to write their own script about how Hillary is feeling about the election.
Thank you for so eloquently putting that piece of fiction to rest.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)dionysus
(26,467 posts)over politicians.
It's merely my observation that a lot of people on here get wayyy too attached to their favorite politicians, whoever they may be. That goes for pwoplw who idolize bernie, too.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)It was incredibly contentious, and the foundation was dragged through the mud that other SOS were not, for no real reason - except she was the Democratic candidate.
And the pity comments about "lap of luxury" and "Splendor" aren't negated by your comment about "not begrudging here her fortune."
Sort of like saying "Bless her heart" doesn't negate a southern insult....
Ai ai ai....
dionysus
(26,467 posts)also line in a vastly different world then we do. Nearly everyone in a higher office is a multimillionaire, they have it way better than most people.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)See what I mean?
milestogo
(16,829 posts)OldRedneck
(1,397 posts)Hillary will get as much camera time as The Trumpster!!!!!
And a LOT more applause.
Cha
(297,777 posts)awful while he's suppose to be getting sworn in.
Hillary's getting all the attention!
Something he thought of..
3catwoman3
(24,058 posts)...middle of the night Twitterstorm over the weekend, seeing as he is not planning to start "work" until Monday.
Cha
(297,777 posts)he wants to start work right away".. Bullshit.. they're so full of it.
bdamomma
(63,930 posts)to dismantle our democracy. I hate tRump.
you know she should go, she will show how much more of person she is than that stupid jerk, you see how he cancelled going to African-American Museum for Martin Luther King Day.
What did Michelle say, when they go low we go high!!!!!
Cha
(297,777 posts)bdamomma
(63,930 posts)not to play the gender card but if a woman was in we wouldn't be having these problems right now, and the rest of the world would be breathing a sigh of relief.............damn
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Cha
(297,777 posts)jmg257
(11,996 posts)in Washington.
When no repubs show up in 2020 for the new Democrat president, the spiral into national divide will just continue.
no_hypocrisy
(46,231 posts)Cha
(297,777 posts)TheCowsCameHome
(40,169 posts)No comment, no explanation. just sit this one out.
The fewer that show up, the better.
HoneyBadger
(2,297 posts)Has she been attending events in general, anything for MLK day for example? You cannot protest by just not showing up. MLK did not stay home for Selma.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)If she's there and on camera, she's directly contradicting him.
He tried to portray her as "needing to heal" and he would have some pity on her - and her being there will demonstrate that she doesn't need any pity.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)No matter how many shriek (including those on the left) for her to.
bdamomma
(63,930 posts)of the female gender.
m-lekktor
(3,675 posts)ehrnst
(32,640 posts)mcar
(42,390 posts)bdamomma
(63,930 posts)if she gets applauded and he doesn't.
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Iggo
(47,574 posts)Go.
Don't go.
I don't give a fuck.
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Hekate
(90,853 posts)....prominent people, the Clintons were and are engaged in a charity that depends on the goodwill and financial support of the powerful and wealthy -- so they accepted the invite. There's also a photo of Bill at a charity golf tournament lined up with some folks Dems don't like either. Certain people tried to make a stink over that, too, during the primaries.
So what is your beef, or is this just a hit and run?
liquid diamond
(1,917 posts)election fairly, I would support Hillary's choice to attend. However, that bastard "won" by Russian interference and FBI corruption. He is not a legit president. Rep Lewis is exactly right for refusing to attend this shit show.
Abq_Sarah
(2,883 posts)As a former First Lady, she understands her responsibilities and will always stand in support of the peaceful transition of power, even if it's being transferred to an idiot. It's about respect for the process, not the man.
Hekate
(90,853 posts)brooklynboy49
(287 posts)You'd be singing her praises for her courage in not serving to legitimize his presidency.
NanceGreggs
(27,820 posts)And I've no doubt a lot of thought went into her decision.
Of course, some people will condemn her for attending - and they are no doubt the same people who would condemn her had she chosen NOT to attend.
See how THAT works?
brooklynboy49
(287 posts)I don't "condemn" her for attending, but I do believe she's making a mistake. And had she decided not to attend, I would have applauded her for having the courage to make that decision.
NanceGreggs
(27,820 posts)brooklynboy49
(287 posts)It never does.
NanceGreggs
(27,820 posts)... a completely innocuous reply as "smugness" speaks for itself.
melman
(7,681 posts)We'd be treated to a (very) long OP about what a wonderful and courageous decision that was.
And you'd have the same people reccing and +oneing
SMC22307
(8,090 posts)Bettie
(16,132 posts)but she must make her own decision.
The Oompa Loompa from the Orange Lagoon will probably do or say something to try to ridicule her, but given his third grade verbal skills, it won't have a lot of impact on anyone but the people who already hang on his every word.
SteamAddict
(53 posts)And will face this illegitimate Putin puppet. And I am pretty sure she will be on the front line when it comes to putting this guy away.
aikoaiko
(34,185 posts)MadDAsHell
(2,067 posts)Uh, you remember your posts about her while she was losing the 08 primaries, right?
NanceGreggs
(27,820 posts)... that my post praising HRC's concession speech was at the top of the Greatest Page all day. It was about her poise and grace, her ability to put her political loss behind her, as well as lauding her determination to support Obama and campaign for him tirelessly - which she did.
The post got hundreds of recs, as posters added their kudos to a great lady - HRC and Obama supporters alike.
Thanks for the reminder of a time when DUers came together behind the Dem candidate, along with putting aside their differences in order to recognize Hillary's unwavering support for her Party at a time when her personal loss was most keenly felt.
MadDAsHell
(2,067 posts)her character for nothing more than not being "historic" enough of a candidate for you.
But those threads never happened right?
tavalon
(27,985 posts)I would really encourage you to take another look at your priorities. I mean really.
NanceGreggs
(27,820 posts)I "denigrated her character for nothing more than not being "historic" enough of a candidate for you"?
What is that even supposed to mean?
Phoenix61
(17,020 posts)I know it shouldn't happen but... Man would I love to see Bill sucker punch Trump and tell him ""That's what you get for being such a douche to my wife" What can I say?
NanceGreggs
(27,820 posts)... but it IS a nice visual to picture, isn't it?
StevieM
(10,500 posts)to Joe McCarthy.
pbmus
(12,422 posts)I do not agree with her attending.
LenaBaby61
(6,979 posts)ehrnst
(32,640 posts)that she is not afraid, not hiding - because that is what the perception of her not attending is.
If she was a Senator, or in Congress, then that would be a protest, because representatives will need deal with him as president.
DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)but I'll be very blunt and very honest; the fact that she showed up to this will be shown as a sign of submission, which we know is the one thing that Trump and all his chumps, lumps and stumps want. Come on, you know damn well that an army of goons stands ready with crude GIFS, and chest beating essays. Even the people who are claiming to have buyers remorse, and crying crocodile tears, so that in 2018 and 2020 we will "finally listen to them" and send women and minorities back to the back of the bus, will start penning some sort of missive on how great it felt to see Trump take the oath. Yes, so many of these white males, and the white females who love them, despite the sex jokes and lower pay, will pen all sorts of missives and how good it felt to see Hillary humbled. Oh yes, Hillary will be portrayed as the Dragon that Trump slayed, and made to humble herself before him. And of course, this will also be a way to attack Obama, and all these people, especially the ones that said they were Democrats, will use it as a way of saying "Trump one because he listened to us" and then those that are not even trying to pretend to be polite will get into some course of " ding dong the witch is dead" ball finding some way to throw in some racial epithet about Obama.
Like I said, I know Hillary is trying to appeal to the better angels of the nation, to go high where she knows trouble go low. And Trump will go low; it's only a matter of whether he has the guts to do it himself or just uses Ted Nugent to do it. However, the fact is as long as we focus so much on showing polite examples, we will get our face slapped again, because in America, if you have enough money, virtue means nothing.
Go ahead and show up Hillary, but could you bring along James Carville, or even your husband? No, on second thought don't do that, because even though Bill or James Carville could reduce foxhole things were farce with about five seconds of microphone time the last thing I want is for some fog to have an excuse. Hell, I would not put it past Trump at all to make up some bogus grounds for resting the Clintons right there, as if it was the ultimate episode of the apprentice. Don't laugh you know Fox News to be popping champagne and that Steve Bannon would be providing the thugs to make sure that the Clintons had as much chance to survive police custody as the sort of African-American males whose murderers inspired the whole black lives matter movement!
01 PS about said movement: a lot of people that were so ready to defend the cops, and so ready to defend the gunman like the likes of George Zimmerman might find out that to the rich their lives don't matter that much either. I do hope I am wrong, but if all the sudden the police get a bit more emboldened, some people in the back are going to be saying "how does it feel, to be on your own, a complete unknown, like a Rolling Stone." There's got to be a lot of stones rolling in the next four years.
NanceGreggs
(27,820 posts)... those same people would say she had been "humbled into submission", and was too humiliated to show her face.
This is really a fool's game. People are going to say what they're going to say, whether she attends or not. Either way, it will be twisted into something disparaging by her adversaries.
I'm sure she put a lot of thought into what the best course of action is. It's her call, and I respect her ability to make that call.
DesertFlower
(11,649 posts)they have served their country.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)calls...
Joe941
(2,848 posts)So if attending says all that about her what does boycotting it say?
Gothmog
(145,650 posts)radical noodle
(8,013 posts)Brilliant OP! I've been thinking similar thoughts but hadn't the skill to put it into words the way you did.
trotsky
(49,533 posts)By showing up, she's validating the orange moron.
If she skips, it's "sour grapes."