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Thu Jan 19, 2017, 04:48 PM

I wish they would start asking these climate deniers these questions

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How do you feel about the fossil fuels from cars and trucks damaging our children's health in this country? In particular, how do you feel about the pollution from fossil fuels affecting your own children's health?

I really want to know the answer to that.

And I know most people have cars and not many can afford electric or hybrid vehicles. But Obama put in measures to lower car emissions and the prices of hybrids are going down. But they won't go down if the oil industry runs Washington. The oil industry, I'm sure has fought to keep cars using more gas because that is where there money comes from

Many studies have demonstrated that there is a relation between air pollution and respiratory health among children, especially affecting children with asthma.

Along with these studies, which point clearly and consistently to the toxic effects of polluted air on our respiratory systems, there are others that offer clues as to how these negative effects have much wider consequences than was at first thought. Perhaps one of the least expected conclusions was demonstrated by researchers able to associate prenatal exposure to air pollution to miscarriage, premature birth, congenital heart malformations and low birth weight. That is not all: it has also been shown that exposure to air pollution is related to the development of certain chronic diseases, especially affecting the respiratory system. For example, a study done in Germany before and after reunification showed that lower air pollution had brought about a corresponding reduction in the number of children with chronic bronchitis.

Air pollution caused by traffic has also been associated with the development of atopy (allergic tendency) and respiratory sounds, especially when exposure is to polluted environments with particles liberated by diesel motor combustion. Because they are smaller, these particles can penetrate more deeply into the lungs, where it has been shown they can remain for a longer period of time as well. Particles from these kinds of fuels have been designated as cancer-causing toxic agents by some organizations in the United States. An American study on exposure to multiple air toxins found that these particles are responsible for approximately 70% of all cancer risk caused by contaminated air in the metropolitan area of Los Angeles. Furthermore, they can act as allergens, bringing about allergic reactions.


Here is some information about what comes out cars and trucks when we use them.

The ingredients of air pollution

Cars and trucks produce air pollution throughout their life, including pollution emitted during vehicle operation, refueling, manufacturing, and disposal. Additional emissions are associated with the refining and distribution of vehicle fuel.

Air pollution from cars and trucks is split into primary and secondary pollution. Primary pollution is emitted directly into the atmosphere; secondary pollution results from chemical reactions between pollutants in the atmosphere. The following are the major pollutants from motor vehicles:

Particulate matter (PM). These particles of soot and metals give smog its murky color. Fine particles less than one-tenth the diameter of a human hair pose the most serious threat to human health, as they can penetrate deep into lungs. PM is a direct (primary) pollution and a secondary pollution from hydrocarbons, nitrogen oxides, and sulfer dioxides. Diesel exhaust is a major contributor to PM pollution.

Hydrocarbons (HC). These pollutants react with nitrogen oxides in the presence of sunlight to form ground level ozone, a primary ingredient in smog. Though beneficial in the upper atmosphere, at the ground level this gas irritates the respiratory system, causing coughing, choking, and reduced lung capacity.

Nitrogen oxides (NOx). These pollutants cause lung irritation and weaken the body's defenses against respiratory infections such as pneumonia and influenza. In addition, they assist in the formation of ground level ozone and particulate matter.

Carbon monoxide (CO). This odorless, colorless, and poisonous gas is formed by the combustion of fossil fuels such as gasoline and is emitted primarily from cars and trucks. When inhaled, CO blocks oxygen from the brain, heart, and other vital organs. Fetuses, newborn children, and people with chronic illnesses are especially susceptible to the effects of CO.

Sulfur dioxide (SO2). Power plants and motor vehicles create this pollutant by burning sulfur-containing fuels, especially diesel. Sulfur dioxide can react in the atmosphere to form fine particles and poses the largest health risk to young children and asthmatics.

Hazardous air pollutants (toxics). These chemical compounds have been linked to birth defects, cancer, and other serious illnesses. The Environmental Protection Agency estimates that the air toxics emitted from cars and trucks which include Benzene, acetaldehyde, and 1,3-butadiene account for half of all cancers caused by air pollution.


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Reply I wish they would start asking these climate deniers these questions (Original post)
Maraya1969 Jan 2017 OP
Angry Dragon Jan 2017 #1
Maraya1969 Jan 2017 #2
Angry Dragon Jan 2017 #3
Abouttime Jan 2017 #4
Maraya1969 Jan 2017 #5
ileus Jan 2017 #6
Calculating Jan 2017 #7

Response to Maraya1969 (Original post)

Thu Jan 19, 2017, 05:25 PM

1. republicans overheard saying: 'Just stop with all those facts!!'

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Response to Angry Dragon (Reply #1)

Thu Jan 19, 2017, 05:43 PM

2. NO ONE has presented these facts to them!

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Response to Maraya1969 (Reply #2)

Thu Jan 19, 2017, 05:56 PM

3. the facts are out there all they have to have is an open mind ...... which they do not

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Response to Maraya1969 (Original post)

Thu Jan 19, 2017, 06:36 PM

4. There is a simple solution


Raise fuel taxes until people change their behavior, as in Europe. If people were paying $10-15 a gallon for gasoline they would curtail their driving and use more environmentally friendly modes of transport such as walking, bicycling and mass transit. We need to ban older vehicles from our roads, there is no reason for someone to be driving a 40 or 50 year old car spewing pollution, not to mention they are a hazard on today's roads.
The massive tax revenues from dirty energy taxes could be used for the public good, more mass transit, free higher education, free healthcare.
It would be a drastic step but it would transform our nation for the better immediately, we would all become healthier, happier and our children would thank us.

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Response to Abouttime (Reply #4)

Thu Jan 19, 2017, 06:43 PM

5. Yea but the point is still that with the power of the oil industry backing so many republicans they

won't do that.

That is why I suggest asking these barons how they feel about it affecting their own children

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Response to Abouttime (Reply #4)

Thu Jan 19, 2017, 06:52 PM

6. 40 and 50 years old cars are called collectors

they're driven 300 miles a year.

vehicles should be like planes and yachts, only the rich should have them.

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Response to ileus (Reply #6)

Thu Jan 19, 2017, 06:59 PM

7. Never gonna happen

Our very infrastructure and way of life in this country is set up around ownership of personal vehicles. In Europe everything is more compact, and people usually work closer to home.

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