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http://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/senate-russia-hacking-investigation-trump-233836How the Senate's Russian meddling probe almost blew up
Democrats led by Sen. Mark Warner threatened to boycott an Intelligence Committee investigation after a top Republican said Trump's campaign would be off-limits.
Sen. Mark Warner couldnt believe what his Republican counterpart on the Senate Intelligence Committee had just done.
With no advance notice, Chairman Richard Burr (R-N.C.) declared to reporters that his panel wouldnt look into possible collusion between Donald Trumps campaign and Moscow as part of its investigation of Russian interference in the election. So Warner, a Virginia Democrat who is the panels ranking member, promptly enlisted every Democrat on the committee to oppose Burrs move and presumably boycott the investigation if he didn't reverse himself, according to congressional sources.
Barely 24 hours later, Burr issued a lengthy statement backtracking on his own comments. The committee would indeed examine links between Russia and individuals associated with political campaigns as part of its larger election-hacking probe, Burr wrote in a joint statement with Warner.
The implicit boycott threat, described by three sources with knowledge of the behind-the-scenes effort, illustrates the uneasy partnership between Burr and Warner as their committee assumes one of the toughest assignments in Washington. The two are seeking to maintain a bipartisan spirit on a committee now tasked with getting to the bottom of the biggest question hanging over Trump as he prepares to take the oath of office whether his campaign coordinated with Russia.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,121 posts)spanone
(135,874 posts)dalton99a
(81,578 posts)get the red out
(13,468 posts)Republicans are nothing but crooks.
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Cracklin Charlie
(12,904 posts)"Nobody that works for a living should ever vote for any Republican".
I miss my daddy.
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Dream Girl
(5,111 posts)Would be great to start to circulate memes like this. I think so many have been deluded by rw media and blinded by hatred. This simple statement buts forward the idea of voting dems as a matter of self interest.
get the red out
(13,468 posts)Republicans were for the rich only, not the working man (woman).
If my Dad or Papaw were alive, they would be going nuts right now.
I miss their old wisdom though. One of the best nights I ever had with my parents was watching the states come in on election night 2008. He died in 2010.
Sorry for getting all
bdamomma
(63,922 posts)my dad said the same thing republicans were for rich and democrats were for the Middle class he was right.
And I have had those democratic ideals for a long time.
so sad today.
Joediss
(84 posts)My parents only voted republican one time in their life. They voted for Eisenhower and my grandparents found out , and almost disowned them for that.. My grandparents who lived through great depression knew that republican were nothing but crooks . I was born in 1951 and it's my generation that really push this bullshit " Pull yourself up by the bootstrap bullshit ". All we had on tv were westerns about doing exactly this.
calimary
(81,467 posts)Well, that cockamamie buzzphrase "pull yourself up by the bootstrap" only makes sense if you have boots to begin with. Preferably with a designer label. Doesn't apply to anyone else. And doesn't think it has to.
TexasBushwhacker
(20,214 posts)We can only dream.
PatSeg
(47,589 posts)Eisenhower wasn't a died in the wool republican. At the time both parties tried to recruit him for president. As the years have passed, I have come to appreciate what a good president Ike was.
Eyeball_Kid
(7,434 posts)He fought against the Nazis and he voted against Republicans. For as long as he could remember, Republicans always stood for big business and were always against the working person. It was a bread and butter issue for him.
Were he alive today, he'd witness the confluence of Nazism and Republicanism. Trumpy aides and abets white supremacists and Nazis. And he'll continue to do so as president.
JudyM
(29,277 posts)Usually I grimace that he's too go-with-the-establishment-flow, this is a nice change.
He's my Senator, too. I usually get angry with him because he's always trying to be so "kum ba ya" with the nut jobs! I'll call his office and thank him as well. Hope he has the fire in his belly this time.
calimary
(81,467 posts)And thanks, JudyM, too.
Positive reinforcement when they do something good. They need to be carefully and relentlessly steered. Directed, instructed, and steered.
And when somebody like Warner does good, he needs calcium supplement for his emerging backbone.
Do what proper parenting recommends:
REWARD and REINFORCE Good Behavior! (And Good Behavior ONLY.) Make sure all bad behavior is checked and discouraged, and even punished. Make damn sure it's NOTICED, EVERY time they cave, or even consider playing ball with the bad guys. EVERY time they step out of line or otherwise collaborate with the enemy, they need to be told - "no more campaign donations for you! I'm working for your Democratic replacement!"
MaeScott
(878 posts)NewJeffCT
(56,829 posts)it's a question if it can be proven beyond a reasonable doubt and if Trump knew about the coordination. Oh, and if Republicans will get on board with those conclusions if proven. (They might be okay with President Pence if Trump's popularity continues to edge downward...)
uponit7771
(90,364 posts)... follow politics knows there's something fucked up about MiniPootin and Russia.
That has to spread
bucolic_frolic
(43,287 posts)Financing reveals all
NCjack
(10,279 posts)wordpix
(18,652 posts)the money trail is muddy and obscure.
Real estate prices fluctuate so a Russian LLC needing $ laundering buys a $3 million apt. for $6 million from Trump and what happens with the extra $3 million? Russian keeps it and probably gives a kickback to Trump so he can be bailed out of his 7th bankruptcy.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2017/1/9/1618540/-Was-Donald-Trump-bailed-out-of-bankruptcy-by-Russia-crime-bosses?detail=email&link_id=2&can_id=d26754c22c62898db18d04b7ba8ebc7b&source=email-perverted-sex-with-russian-prostitutes-kickbacks-bribes-and-other-trump-follies-revealed&email_referrer=perverted-sex-with-russian-prostitutes-kickbacks-bribes-and-other-trump-follies-revealed&email_subject=perverted-sex-with-russian-prostitutes-kickbacks-bribes-and-other-trump-follies-revealed
In 2008, Donald Trump Jr. attended a real estate conference, where he stated that
Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets. We see a lot of money pouring in from Russia.
As it turns out, that may have been an understatement. Human rights lawyer Scott Horton, whose work in the region goes back to defending Andrei Sakharov and other Soviet dissidents, has gone through a series of studies by the Financial Times to show how funds from Russian crime lords bailed Trump out after yet anther bankruptcy. The conclusions are stark.
Among the powerful facts that DNI missed were a series of very deep studies published in the that examined the structure and history of several major Trump real estate projects from the last decadethe period after his seventh bankruptcy and the cancellation of all his bank lines of credit. ...
The money to build these projects flowed almost entirely from Russian sources. In other words, after his business crashed, Trump was floated and made to appear to operate a successful business enterprise through the infusion of hundreds in millions of cash from dark Russian sources.
He was their man.
Can you imagine if this were Hillary we were learning about?
NRaleighLiberal
(60,019 posts)Wounded Bear
(58,709 posts)orangecrush
(19,617 posts)Isn't it?
LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(12,592 posts)I guess we should be happy he's keeping the reporters in the loop, unlike He Who Shall Not Be Named.
Botany
(70,582 posts)n/t
lark
(23,156 posts)Repugs are after all big entitled oligarch babies and Burr didn't want to be totally outted as a partisan hack. Of course, If Dems hadn't fought back, there would be no investigation. Burr will still do everything possible to keep Drumpf out of the spotlight and this is far from the end. Dems are going to have to fight those rw asses every step of the way to get anywhere near the truth about the orange assface criminal.
Feeling the Bern
(3,839 posts)Emphasis mine.
No, media assholes trolls at the Politico. . .one Senator, the Democrats, wants to their job, while the Republican just wants to be a rubber stamp.
But nice covering Republican ass.
BSdetect
(8,999 posts)If there is some evidence they need to release it any way possible.
That is a no brainer.
Too late now?
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,897 posts)the specific thing they set up to investigate?
Now THAT'S chutzpah!
SleeplessinSoCal
(9,145 posts)If L Ron Trump approvals stay in the 30's they will need Democratic cover. Some are already running for re-election next year.
ancianita
(36,133 posts)come from them except by extraction and threat by the Democrats.
For Democrats this will be a looong four years.
The more they give in to GOP calls for bipartisanship, the more they help Trump's re-election.
bucolic_frolic
(43,287 posts)Although in the majority and able to set the agenda and pass what
they want, they are at least at this fragile moment on this delicately
unfolding scandal, vulnerable to adverse displays of non-compliance that
stirs up public opinion against them
Time to PROTEST everything!!!!!
lancelyons
(988 posts)Now that Trump is in, the Republicans will squash these investigations.
They dont care about finding out how they took complete power through deceit, collusion, outside russian influence, etc.
No news will come out of this unless somebody leaks it out. The republicans will not want this out.
The democrats have alot of work to do. You cant be mister nice principled guy in this world because you get trampled
Jimbo101
(776 posts)Of course investigative reporting in the US is pretty much dead and MSM is a joke.
PatSeg
(47,589 posts)doesn't want to investigate an enemy state involvement in Trump's campaign? Not a single shred of integrity in the entire party evidently. And after all the outrage about faux Clinton corruption. Shameless and treasonous.
jimlup
(7,968 posts)of treason as they become the party of treason.