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[taterguy]

1. You wish

The really good ones fly so low you don't even notice them.

[taterguy]

23. You haven't noticed all of them

Trust me.

[pintobean]

25. Really?

Where?

[RetroLounge]

136. Really?

Where?



RL

p.s. See, the little emoticon supports the text. It's better that way. You're welcome...

[RufusTFirefly]

14. Indeed. I'm afraid they're swaying some people.

Honestly, I don't know how these folks can look at themselves in the mirror. But then, I guess that's why I'm not a corporate hack.

[zeemike]

18. Thanks for that clip.

[CreekDog]

116. some fly low by posting nothing of consequence, muddying up progressive threads

[leveymg]

2. A big shout-out to the Neocon regime changers and pro-nukers, too!

[mmonk]

3. Excellent.

[ancianita]

5. Probably an official PR chart, too.

[BumRushDaShow]

7. OMG

Spot on!

[GarroHorus]

8. The chart is spot on. n/t

[malaise]

21. Terrific chart

Thanks

[Odin2005]

28. Yes, because Slobodon Miloshovich was such a great guy!

It was seeing the atrocities in Bosnia and Rwanda on the news as a child that made me an interventionist, and I will not apologize for being one. I don't care of you call me a Neo-Con Imperialist.

[Iggo]

31. Don't forget the Toyota shills.

They really had their shit together.

[Mopar151]

72. I sold them bums a couple tombstones myself

Good times........

[nc4bo]

45. Thank you for this timely and useful flow chart. nt

[freshwest]

4. +1,000

[Romulox]

6. There was an Apple poster working FURIOUSLY here just before Ipad3 was released... nt

[valerief]

11. I can't think of anything more boring than the iPad. Oh, yes, I can. The iPad3. nt

[blm]

10. They're all over FB, too.

.

[valerief]

12. 99%er Cooked Goose Recipe (no goose necessary!)

1 cup genetically modified values
1 tbsp of hysteria
1 tbsp of rage
Dash of finger-pointing
Coat liberally with Bernays (no, not Bearnaise) sauce made from male bovine feces

Must be served from 99% of all eating establishments 24/7 for maximum effect. This include the DU Diner.

[Odin2005]

29. + Infinity for the Bernays reference!

[Egalitarian Thug]

15. Well, there you go again. Disparaging our benevolent corporate overlords with your silly fears

based on nothing but your own lying eyes and anecdotal stories, all of which were made up by other Amercia haters, like you. You DFH, Commie, totalitarian stooge.

All is well, nothing to see here, just move along before one of benevolent master's enforcers is forced, against his will, to shoot you.

[freshwest]

176. LOL! Good one, thanks.

[MisterP]

16. when they add "or else the Republican gets in" at the end of their plea for Business as Usual

that seems to work on DUers

[Ghost of Huey Long]

17. they did their job getting everyone to shut up about the election in Wisconsin

Huge Revolution in Wisconsin, major movement for recall, very easy gathering signatures needed, major get out the vote effort...

Record Turnout in the 'election' for the Incumbent everyone hates...right.

Bought off Corporate Media tells us everyone went to vote because they hate recalls....right.

Everyone buys this bullshit? What do you think they are going to do to us in November when they got away with that so easily?

[zeemike]

20. Yep is all I can say.

They have made acceptance of it the norm...and anyone out of the norm is a CTer.
It works every time.

[shcrane71]

62. What's a CTer?

As always, Ghost of Huey is spot on.

[zeemike]

67. Conspiracy Theorist...

Sorry but I thought that abbreviation was well known enough by now to allow me to be to lazy to write it out.

[shcrane71]

74. I'm prolly the only one who didn't know that; so carry-on w/ the abbreviation.

And I'm going to steal it.

[zeemike]

75. No you are not the only one.

this is the second time I have used it and got asked about it.
It is only common knowledge among those who talk a lot about it....CTers and those that mock them.

[KansDem]

149. I didn't know, either...

I thought CTer meant a "Connecticutter," or someone from Connecticut...

[freshwest]

178. Well, now, you gotta watch out for those people from CT. *dons asbestos pajamas*

[ancianita]

94. For me, that's the Big Question of Wisconsin...

How could the million who signed the petition not at LEAST back up their signature with a vote. What happened to all the signers? Were they apathetic? Bought off? Not counted? It's disheartening.

[pintobean]

19. Meta in GD sucks too /nt

[LaurenG]

27. You aren't judge and jury all alone here are you?

I think its fine right where it is...

[pintobean]

30. Not at all

but, I can read the SOP for GD - "No whining about DU".

Then, there's the SOP for Meta - "Discuss Democratic Underground policies and procedures. Second-guess decisions by Juries, Hosts, and Administrators. Work through problems between members. Discuss the DU Community Standards. Bemoan the current state of DU."

[LaurenG]

32. Wait you think this is whining about DU? "Just a note to PR and Corporate hacks"

Do you have an issue with the poster because this is calling out hacks and says nothing about DU.

[pintobean]

33. Finish the quote

"hacks that post their bullshit on DU"

[LaurenG]

34. Yeah hacks that post their bullshit on DU. Wow

seriously dude, no words.

[pintobean]

35. Missing words

is more like it.

[LaurenG]

37. What is your problem? It's clearly whining about

corporate hacks here not about DU. Just stop please.

[Hissyspit]

36. Not really meta.

It's mostly about outside political behavior that manifests here, as opposed to behavior within DU.

[pintobean]

39. I disagree, but thanks

for a reasoned and thoughtful response.

[RetroLounge]

42. Obvious is obvious

RL

[pintobean]

43. Brilliant

Absolutely brilliant

[RetroLounge]

46. Another way we differ...

RL

[pintobean]

47. Laughing at your own

gutless attempts at insults is pretty lame, dude. If you have something to say, spit it out. Don't let fear get in the way, I won't alert.

[RetroLounge]

103. You mistake the direction of my laughter

scurry away now...

RL

[pintobean]

111. I don't think so.

I'd say nice try, but it wasn't.

[RetroLounge]

126. "I don't think"

There, I fixed it for you...

Now scurry away, little peapod...

RL

[DisgustipatedinCA]

49. It looks like you don't want this being discussed here. How interesting. And unsurprising.

[pintobean]

50. Yes, and I'm so stupid,

I keep kicking it. You couldn't possibly take it at face value that I just think it's posted in the wrong forum.

Try some Ex-Lax.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

51. Whatever you say

[pintobean]

53. Let us know

if it works out for you.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

55. Run along now.

You seem to have an inordinate amount of interest in digestive problems, as your username suggests. But I'm really more interested in your touchy defensiveness about the actual topic at hand. Sorry it's not working out for you. Good day.

[pintobean]

56. Have a nice day.

Buh-bye

[PamKlaus]

58. "Yes, and I'm so stupid, I keep kicking it."

Don't be so hard on yourself.

[RobertBlue]

181. "It looks like you don't want this being discussed here."

I suspect a traumatizing experience in PR some years ago:

[pintobean]

61. I guess we should just scrap the SOP

It's very rarely enforced. Maybe a CT thread once in a while, but that's about it.

[scarletwoman]

63. It was discussed in the host forum at 11:44 this morning.

You're a host, so you can follow this link: http://www.democraticunderground.com/124319395

[Grateful for Hope]

66. You might have checked out the Hosts Forum before posting this. n/t

[LaurenG]

71. Well since Sid and pintobean are the two that alerted on it I'm betting

they did but just didn't like the decision. I am not trying to drag you in to anything but your post was a perfect place to state this. Transparency and all..

[Hassin Bin Sober]

110. Sid has access to the host's forum. He knows damn well it was deliberated. (or should know)

He owes the hosts an apology for this despicable sub-thread.

[Grateful for Hope]

174. No biggy

I agree with you.

[RobertBlue]

177. Sid is kind of silent all of a sudden.

I wonder why?

[freshwest]

180. I don't understand the objection to this thread. 'If the glove doesn't fit, you must acquit!'

It's talking about wing nut interlopers.

[Odin2005]

26. They are so obvious it's both funny and pathetic.

The Libertarian trolls are the most pathetic.

[bvar22]

38. Not only suck at their job,

...but their "job" sucks too.

Do you really believe that YOU are going to climb that ladder into the 1%,
or that the 1% are going to invite YOU to their Pool Party someday?

[quinnox]

40. Agreed, and same with the sycophants

they think by always saying its someone elses fault for errors and pretending everything is done perfectly, and dissenters must either be republican sympathizers or dreamers, that they are doing a great job. Nope, they just look really pathetic and stupid much of the time.

[whatchamacallit]

57. That's been my impression too

Why listen to someone who has an excuse or pat explanation for EVERYTHING? You have to question their objectivity.

[Nye Bevan]

41. K & R nt

[Kablooie]

44. You never noticed my undercover promotions for the Acme Anvil and Rocket Shoe company.

[Logical]

48. What is your proof of this??

[Skittles]

65. mmmmmmmmmmm

remember the pornography quote, "I can't define it but I know it when I see it" ? Same kind of thing going on here.

[woo me with science]

69. Bwah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!!!!!

[Lex]

52. Links? I wanna see!

nt

[mfcorey1]

54. The research groups are the most obvious ones. How many people plan to do this, that or the other.

Free surveys.

[pa28]

59. That's just not fair.

PR and corporate hacks are working people with bills to pay too. You are threatening quite a few full time jobs with this post.

[Skittles]

64. they are truly obvious

yes INDEED

[Macoy51]

68. Coke(tm) Lover

I couldn’t agree more. As I sit here enjoying my Diet Coke ™, one of the many fine products in the Coke family, I can help but think how wrong it is for corporations to pay people to post comments on the internet.


Macoy

[LaurenG]

73. what? nt

[Iggo]

77. Heheheheh...

[woo me with science]

70. Oh how I love

truth in the morning.

[pintobean]

78. Off topic alerts go to the hosts

not jurors. You apparently read that sub-thread and failed to comprehend what was actually posted. That kind of puts your talent snark into perspective.

Btw - What exactly is a PR/Corporate Hack, and is there an application process for it? I could use a few extra bucks.

[pintobean]

82. Your usual trashing of our fellow DUers

gets my attention, but your sixth sense is pretty dull. It can be amusing to watch people hyperventilate and fall all over themselves just to throw some mud. That's what Meta is for.

[pintobean]

88. So, you drive people away?

I can see that.

[pintobean]

108. There's a button for that.

You get nasty with good democrats, claiming they're right wing trolls.

[pintobean]

113. Exactly!

The system we have is designed to protect the innocent. Accusations are supposed to be made behind the scenes. Admin and MIRT have the final say. Rogue troll hunters do more damage than good.

[Marcel]

183. "Admin and MIRT have the final say."

Well, admin decided that this thread was ok so you must be filled with joy that it's been unlocked!

[randome]

89. You 'target' DUers?

That says much about you. And not in a good way, I'm afraid.

[pintobean]

91. I don't see her do much else.

[Robb]

93. Also degrades minimum wage workers.

Ah, Google. Much better than my crummy memory.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=105&topic_id=5330973&mesg_id=5330973

[pintobean]

95. Don't forget the transparency page.

Most of the nasty stuff on DU2 is gone, but there are some interesting things on DU3.

[pintobean]

109. Outrage? No, I'm amused.

You are very entertaining.

[Robb]

102. Yeah, I'm sure that's what you meant.

Too bad DU2 doesn't have self-delete, amirite?

[devilgrrl]

106. I'm not ashamed of that post at all...

people should be outraged that others have to rely on tips to get by.

[LanternWaste]

148. We often see merely what better validates our opinions...

We often see merely what better validates our opinions, and fail to see those which may weaken them. Human nature, and all that...

[Robb]

79. I think the thread is lame, and discusses DUers.

It's an inkblot test. Everyone's paranoid persecution fantasies writ large. Very sad, wholly inappropriate, and doomed to sweep up a bunch of innocents along with the actual PR folks who work here.

But then again I just noticed the thread. DU will be fine. Still lame.

[Vanje]

84. It is interesting to see who's nerves were touched.

Very interesting thread.

[RetroLounge]

105. Like flies on stink...

RL

[Robb]

87. No accusation, I doubt you knew what you were doing.

Although your response has me reconsidering things.

So you figure I joined DU in 2001 to wait 11 years to shill for Invisible Children? I hope my compensation package is substantial.

[Robb]

92. Do you have a link to this affront to your sensibilities?

Not doubting it, just frankly can't remember who exactly you are.

Edited to add: Ah, Google found it for me. Your video claimed Kony was a CIA agent. Other GD hosts were in agreement, sorry.

[Robb]

190. So you call me a shill for the Koch brothers.

You make DU suck.

[RetroLounge]

104. +1

RL

[AngryAmish]

97. Have you considered cooling off with a refreshing RC Cola?

[randome]

101. Or watching a 3 Stooges marathon, maybe.

WITH a refreshing RC cola!

[quinnox]

107. After seeing those who apparently got real offended and angry by this thread

I have to recommend it, which I failed to do before.

[HangOnKids]

119. Me Too!

Love the outrage, and the hot gas!

[quinnox]

127. well, I guess

PR and corporate hacks are people too, and this does call them out.

I guess I can understand some of the outrage, when looked at in this way.

[RetroLounge]

128. Me too

K&R

RL

[hack89]

115. And the Balkanization of DU continues. nt

[LaurenG]

117. What does that even mean?

I find it oddly funny that there really are people who think there is something to be offended about in this op.


I'm scratching my head here.

[hack89]

124. You really don't know your history, do you?

it has nothing to do with politics or even specific countries.

It is a general term that refers to fragmenting into hostile groups.

[hack89]

134. No - your ignorance of the term "Balkanization." is what I was referring to.

Not your personal history. The history of the world.

[hack89]

145. "Failed to prove that this thread is divisive"

As you sit there labeling those that disagree with you as "shills".

My irony meter just exploded.

[hack89]

160. You are the one flailing around launching personal attacks.

I have been here too long to be bothered by the latest DU flame war. You have too high an opinion of yourself.

[hack89]

172. Bye - its been fun. nt

[jillan]

158. Only divisive to those that want to make it so.

The rest of us can laugh as we think of recent comments and discussions we have read and in many cases, participated in.

Not one poster has been called out. It was a very general statement.
If you want to read more into that - knock yourself out.

[LaurenG]

135. No I asked you what YOU meant. by that

and your meaning of it has NOTHING to do with history. Maybe you forgt your manners?

This gets better all the time and I do hope the owners are paying close attention here.

[hack89]

139. Thanks for making my point for me. nt

[LaurenG]

144. I still don't understand your point.

Maybe the smart kids will or the admins. Your posts are just flying over my head.

[hack89]

152. DU is fragmenting. It is becoming divisive.

there is too much nastiness. Too much inflammatory BS like this thread.

Clearer now?

[hack89]

165. No. I do expect to be able to actually discuss an OP without being personally attacked. nt

[LaurenG]

157. So calling attention to corporate shills that have infiltrated is wrong?

See my post to you further down. There are DU'ers who are defendng DU and then there are those defending troll like behavior. Which type is inflammatory bs?

[hack89]

163. My comentary was a general statement on the decline of DU

the fact you take it so personally and are so willing to wheel out the personal attacks in revealing.

I will let you have the last word and then we are done.

[LaurenG]

170. No, I am really not taking it personally but I thank you for gracefully

leaving the conversaton so that I could have the last word. Just to clarfy I also didn't see anything I wrote as a personal attack.

[pintobean]

120. That's not a surprise.

It means that the OP is about as divisive as it gets. Look at all the finger pointing going on in this thread - yours included.

[LaurenG]

131. Really - I called out someone who knew that the hosts had decided this already

(I thought you were still a host, so you deserve an apology for that error on my part.) Otherwise I don't see where I was pointing except to disagree with you, and I didn't see a pointed finger there.
What is your major malfunction here. Are you a corporate shill? Are you trying to sway the election or get people to stop caring about the ingredients in their food? There have been lots of them here. I am surpised that any du-er would take issue with that... seriously.

[hack89]

122. The constant drive to label, group and judge DU members.

as witnessed by all the drama in Meta. The ongoing "war of words" over what words are acceptable or not. The civil war in the Feminists groups. The endless frivolous and petty alerts. The call out of certain groups in Meta. The constant "purity" and "litmus test" threads.

Just like the Balkans, DU is fragmenting and turning on each other. It is becoming a mean and nasty place. That's what I mean.

[hack89]

129. Because usually "paid shill" = "someone who disagrees with me."

unless you have actual evidence besides your personal opinion that there are real paid shills here.

[hack89]

140. Thanks for making my point for me. nt

[hack89]

151. So I am a corporate hack? Just for disagreeing with you? OK. nt

[hack89]

159. Why are you here if you want an echo chamber?

this is a discussion board. Why is it so important that everyone agree with you? Why are you compelled to personally attack anyone that fails to agree with you?

[hack89]

166. How many times have you implied I am a corporate hack? Just for disagreeing with you? nt

[Autumn]

179. And don't worry your head about radiation from Japan, it's harmless.

Because "they" tell us so. Great post and great thread. Thanks.

[cherokeeprogressive]

188. Show me one post claiming toxic waste is GOOD.

[RetroLounge]

133. Why does this thread bother you?

Are you supporting paid hacks?

RL

[hack89]

137. Just tossing in my 2 cents worth.

that's what I thought happened on discussion boards. Didn't realize this OP was suppose to be an echo chamber. Excuse me.

[RetroLounge]

142. So you didn't answer the question.

"that's what I thought happened on discussion boards" is an answer to no question posed.

Try again.

RL

[hack89]

147. This particular thread doesn't bother me that much.

At it's core it is just silly flame bait. It is just another reflection on how toxic DU is becoming.

I had an opinion and I expressed it. Does it bother you that I disturbed the echo chamber?

[LaurenG]

153. Maybe just look at the link below in light of the information

reported by CBS about all the cattle that died eating GMO grass. Interestng right? Here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=148788

Flame bait, yes but by whom?

[JVS]

121. You could have posted that without the last three words.

[hack89]

132. So show us the obvious and provide some links. nt

[hack89]

169. I knew you had nothing. nt

[hack89]

182. I just wanted some actual proof.

If that if asking too much then ok, we'll just put the OP down as a personal rant and move on. Rants are perfectly acceptable.

[Marcel]

184. Can you prove that there's not a single person on DU...

that is paid by a lobby or corporation's PR department to promote their POV? I didn't think so.

[hack89]

186. It doesn't work that way

if someone makes makes a claim it is incumbent on them to provide some proof. "You can't prove me wrong so I must be right" is not how the world works.

[Marcel]

191. I just wanted some actual proof.

If that is asking too much then ok, we'll just put all you posts in this thread down as a personal rant and move on. Rants are perfectly acceptable.

[hack89]

192. Very cute. Now go study some basic logic

pay attention to "proving a negative."

I can prove that the OP made an unsubstantiated claim simply because she refused to substantiate it. It is not hard.

[Marcel]

193. Still ranting?

[hack89]

194. No - just taking some time to teach.

I am a patient man - I have teenage kids.

[Marcel]

197. Medice, cura te ipsum. n/t

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

164. They certainly seem to overestimate the influence of DU on the electorate.

Thus, the endless demands for loyalty and agreement to everything the party does.

[randome]

168. This thread is like an out-of-control mushroom filling the land with spores!!!!

[madrchsod]

185. well this has been an interesting read and.....

yes they do.

they must be busy little beavers posting here and at kos...

[BlueIris]

187. They know they suck at their jobs.

Special note to a certain someone: I cannot WAIT to read your pathetic rationalizations here next month. It's going to be comedy gold. It's one of the main reasons I still bother to maintain an account here.

[SixString]

189. Righteous Unlock

[woo me with science]

195. Kick. nt

[McCamy Taylor]

196. They do. I can spot them every time. It's fun to needle them. Instead of calling them out

use their bogus "opinions" as a starting point for a series of responses---or better yet, threads---that point up their bosses' biggest liabilities or weaknesses. I have done this to Monsanto reps, Big Pharm reps and a former FCC commissioner, just to name a few. Eventually they get the message and go back to their hidey holes, because they realize that their posts are not derailing the discussion, they are only precipitating more bad pr for their companies.

[butterfly77]

199. K&R!

[Zorra]

201. kick