18% of Americans would not vote for well-qualified Mormon for President

[banned from Kos]

http://www.gallup.com/poll/155273/Bias-Against-Mormon-Presidential-Candidate-1967.aspx


A very interesting read. Gallup says Republicans are more accepting of Mormonism in a candidate with 24% of Democrats and 18% of independents who admit they would not.

[TlalocW]

1. Works for me

I don't like it when conservative Christians are in charge of things so I can't imagine a Mormon would be any better, and they haven't endeared themselves to me WAKING ME UP EVERY OTHER SATURDAY WHEN I'M TRYING TO SLEEP IN!

TlalocW

[crazyjoe]

41. really? how do you feel about "them Jews running things" ?

does that work for you too? Oh, let me guess.....that's different, apples and oranges, blah blah blah.

[TlalocW]

42. So, let me get this straight...

There are NO groups that you have an ideological/political difference with where you would prefer that a member of - one that is likely going to push that group's agenda - NOT get into office? Then there is no reason to oppose republicans; no reason to be a democrat, etc. I didn't like Bush partly because he was an evangelical Christian who was going to and did push their agenda - and the country paid for it. Romney by both virtue of his being a conservative Mormon as well as beholden to the religiously insane branch of Christianity (who are putting aside their insistence that religion always matters when it comes to who the president is) means working against abortion rights, gay rights, women rights, etc.

Guess what? I have a problem with certain orthodox Jews like Rabbi Yehuda Levin who - ironically - blames all society's ills on a single group (homosexuals), and I wouldn't want him or any of his followers to get elected either.

And the other side feels the same way about us - dividing us up religiously and in other ways and doesn't want, "those kind," running things. That's politics.

However, I believe I'm on the side that wants everyone to be able to live their lives, take part in their religion (or non-religion), etc. as they want to, and that they should be free from other groups trying to impose their religious beliefs onto others through law (ie homosexuals can't marry; their religion trumps all others, etc.) I honestly don't care what religion or non-religion a person follows, but I'm not going to be ashamed when I make qualified guesses that if a member of a certain religion or other group, if elected, would work against causes that are important to me... especially when both that group and he publicly state that they're going to. I'm not naive.

So why don't you take the race/religion card you're trying to play against me, roll it up real tight, and shove it up your ass (if you can fit it there what with your head being in the way)?

TlalocW

[rocktivity]

2. Well, if it's okay not to vote for someone who "might" be a Muslim

why should it be problem not to vote for someone who is "definitely" a Mormon?


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[Scootaloo]

3. What about a Mormon with absolutely no qualifications whatsoever?

I mean really, that's the sort of Mormon we have running for president right now.

As for the religion itself? Look. All religions are fucking crazy, as far as I can figure, and no matter what the tenets of a particular faith, every human being following it will do exactly what they were going to do ANYWAY. Whether he's a Mormon, a Jehova's Witness, a Sikh, a Alawite, a Hellenic Reconstructionist, or one of those dudes from Cambodia that worship a giant teapot, I've already got him pegged as "person who believes in made-up crazy shit that makes no sense." So... No real difference to me.

It's kind of like watching the empire spiral into a civil war between people who can't agree what color the (obviously naked) emperor's clothes are.

[Kalidurga]

4. The real question is

what percent are going to vote for an Unqualified Moron.

[dimbear]

5. Mormon money oppresses gays and payback is a bitch. Watch the Utah presidential primary,

and see how many votes Fred Karger gets.

[WingDinger]

6. That is a huge chunk of the 1/4 that are undecided.

I think they just need to hear how truly sensible Obama is, and how unfar left he really is.

[RB TexLa]

7. I think it's a lot higher than that. People lie about that kind of stuff with pollsters

[roamer65]

8. No way I'd vote for anyone who belongs to a cult.

[awoke_in_2003]

11. Do you belong...

to an organized religion?

[roamer65]

16. Absolutely not.

Hardcore agnostic, much like Janeane Garofalo.

[awoke_in_2003]

19. Okay...

I just know there are a lot of believers (even here) that ridicule religions that are not theirs as cults

[HarveyDarkey]

25. The only difference between a religion & a cult

is in the number of believers. Have enough, you're a religion. They're all cults IMO.

[backscatter712]

36. I thought the difference was that "mainstream" religions have more real-estate! n/t

[wilt the stilt]

9. repubs are more open to voting for a morman

only because their candidate is a morman. Imagine if this poll was taken last year. I bet the Republican number would have been 45%. This is so typical of slanted Gallup. They always try to make the Dem's look bad.

[banned from Kos]

12. we know there was strong resistance in the GOP to Romney in primaries

We don't know why though.

RINO?
Mormon?
too unhuman?
Romneycare?

I can't wait for the blame game!

[Zalatix]

10. I'll vote for a leftist Mormon.

[eldonk]

15. Why?

I'm very curious. What makes one want to be a leftist or progressive? I'm not trying to be funny, I just want to try and understand.

[banned from Kos]

18. I am just a liberal but I will try to answer.

Conservatives cannot adapt to change. Look at science, evolution, immigration, culture, education, climate, finance, and technology. They resist improvement.

Liberals do well with change and even make the best capitalists. Its a mindset difference.

[Stuart G]

37. Leave it to the Conservative Catholic Church.

For it, the sun revolves around the earth. Disagree and you are gone..

[eldonk]

13. What kind of America do you want?

As I'm watching this election unfold, I cannot help but be extremely frightened for our country. I have lived through more elections than I care to admit and it is becoming more uncivilized the way we are attacking each other. There is too much party loyalty on both sides and not enough independent thinking. Step back and ask yourself just what kind of a country do you want to live in and leave to our children and grandchildren. There is not only the spending and debt, do we really want to become another Greece on Scandinavia? If you do after you've really thought about what that really means, then so be it. All I'm asking all to do, progressives and conservatives, is to use your intelligence and figure it out for yourself. This is still a partially free country but we are becoming less free every day. I blame both parties for that. One party did not get us into this mess and we'd better figure it out before we are no longer a free society. Just remember, the more that big government gives and the more you are willing to take, the more you become a slave to big governments demands. There goes your freedoms. Thanks for listening, now please think about it.

[Kingofalldems]

14. Wow. Sounds like you agree with the republicans

What demands?

[banned from Kos]

22. Just all wrong. Obama has enacted 17 tax cuts and credits for small business.

Including extending NOL's to five years and one-year depreciation on capital purchases.

Small business over-regulation is not cited as an impediment to business by the vast majority of businesses. The Democratic Party is very friendly to business unless you want to pollute or scam someone.

[OKNancy]

24. I owned my own business for 35 years and

employed many many people. I couldn't really tell much difference in who was in power except the whole economy did better when Democrats were in charge. And you really have it wrong about business and the Affordable Care Act. It is a boon to small businesses.
I am retired, but I would have LOVED the provisions in the act ( which doesn't go into effect until 2014)

I suggest you turn off Fox News.

[JustAnotherGen]

35. My husband lives them too!

Iron works, HVAC co - but his real job is being an artist. It rewards smb's like him that already are doing the right thing - and makes it easier for others who are not to do the right thing.

[OKNancy]

21. I'm sorry but you sound like a die-hard Republican to me

no independent thinking that I detect.

[MADem]

31. Hell no--this is Democratic Underground. If you're not prepared to support Democrats for election

you are in the wrong damn place.

People need to read the TOS before they post. I've seen way too many posts of this "ilk" and I'm starting to tire of them.

There really should be a pop up that REQUIRES new posters to at least put eyes on the TOS and check off a Read/Understand box before they are allowed to spout off here. It would save us from these "Can't we all get along?" posts.

NO--we cannot all get along. RMONEY and the GOP are hate filled bigots that want to put women, barefoot and pregnant and up to their elbows in dishwater, back in the kitchen, gay people back in the closet, and anyone who comes from a lower or working class family back in the ditch, digging till they die.

Fuck that. If YOU can't see that, you have some homework to do. There is a very real and visceral difference between the parties, and to play this "independent thinking" card is horse shit. Republicans are evil bastards who want your social security--if you've been through that many elections and that doesn't bother you, you must have a spare dressage horse you can sell if times get tough.

Welcome to DU--read the TOS. http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=termsofservice If you can't deal with it, you took a wrong turn and you might want to reevaluate your goals here.

[WI_DEM]

17. Yes, and even more wouldn't vote for a well qualified black man--so it's a mute point.

[JustAnotherGen]

27. If you aren't

A democratic party member, liberal, or progressive - why are you at DU?


And everyone knows the same people that got welfare aka TARP are the same people trying to make the people of Greece into downtrodden slaves.

[HooptieWagon]

26. Moot point, not mute.

Sorry to be a grammer nazi, but confusing moot and mute drives me nuts.

[JustAnotherGen]

28. Thanks

It is as annoying as mixing up lose and loose.

[MADem]

32. Well, our "independent thinker" diehard conservative Republican on this thread has been

MUTED via a timely PPR, so any points he or she wanted to make are pretty much MOOT. Thus, you, me and WI don't need to worry about that particular annoyance!

[Spider Jerusalem]

34. you mean "grammar" nazi :-p

[HooptieWagon]

38. Yep, I did.

[lumberjack_jeff]

29. Probably a lot of overlap in the two groups.

Which is good, since they won't vote at all.

[MADem]

30. There are those who "admit" and those who don't want to seem like bigots, so they lie.

And I'll bet there are a lot of the latter. In both parties.

[Spider Jerusalem]

33. the more interesting numbers from that poll: 43% wouldn't vote for an atheist.

and 40% wouldn't vote for a Muslim.

[Tom Ripley]

39. Well, Mormons do like to play that "persecution" angle

Let it roll!

[OneTenthofOnePercent]

40. I wonder if that's more or less than who wouldn't vote for a well-qualified black guy? nt