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OMG Todd has rattled and destroyed Conway on Meet the Depressed. (Original Post) kairos12 Jan 2017 OP
Maybe that will be one of the new games for the press greymattermom Jan 2017 #1
Nutcracker soldier needs new battery dalton99a Jan 2017 #2
lol she fucking deserves that Cha Jan 2017 #7
!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BumRushDaShow Jan 2017 #23
I think I've figured her out. The faster she talks, the bigger the lie Arkansas Granny Jan 2017 #3
Good points! nt Sunny05 Jan 2017 #99
She throws out 100 things to obfuscate. A slow disection and constant redirects are needed by press TheBlackAdder Jan 2017 #128
"rambling" Laf.La.Dem. Jan 2017 #4
It's like everyone in trump's administration is adopting his "Thin skinned mindset". dubyadiprecession Jan 2017 #5
And the entire world gets to see it replayed again and again lunatica Jan 2017 #29
Conway calling Spicer's lies "Alternative Facts" Native Jan 2017 #6
He got her to admit the truth. The land of "alternative facts." kairos12 Jan 2017 #8
Alternate Bullshit.. freaking freakshow.. Cha Jan 2017 #11
Like "the earth is flat" is an alternative fact dalton99a Jan 2017 #12
Or, like religious fantasies are facts. stopbush Jan 2017 #47
Religion and fox news Joediss Jan 2017 #76
Like tRump is a follower of the teachings of Jesus Christ alt-fact Pluvious Jan 2017 #118
ALTERNATIVE FACTS ARE LIES, Kellyann, you fucker! Squinch Jan 2017 #17
Post-truth society. nt NickB79 Jan 2017 #45
Hey we should have an "alternative president" Generator Jan 2017 #92
Bwah-ha-ha-ha-ha! Sunny05 Jan 2017 #103
Amen. nt Sunny05 Jan 2017 #101
When she's thinking of her next lie, her left eyebrow goes up nt adigal Jan 2017 #9
I think her 'tell' is when she opens her mouth lunatica Jan 2017 #30
Bwah-ha-ha! Sunny05 Jan 2017 #107
Oh, good obs Sunny05 Jan 2017 #105
Aha! I'm going to watch for that. Arkansas Granny Jan 2017 #130
I think that's just her shovel face. Yup nt sturnz0r Jan 2017 #139
Next 3 weeks a lot of the foul shit aboard the illegitimate Republican-Russian Regime, Inc. will.. Achilleaze Jan 2017 #10
Define "destroyed", please.. juicy details appreciated. Cha Jan 2017 #13
He would not let up on one question... kairos12 Jan 2017 #18
That's okay.. you did a fine job, kairos.. thank you! Cha Jan 2017 #21
Cha-found the link kairos12 Jan 2017 #26
Todd was unrelenting. Conway immediately went into her deflection routine. oasis Jan 2017 #38
Rode hard Scarsdale Jan 2017 #67
Can we please leave her looks out of this? Native Jan 2017 #126
Totally agree... LenaBaby61 Jan 2017 #151
She almost derailed him when she completely mischaracterzed yesterday's marches. Ms. Toad Jan 2017 #71
She talks about everything but the subject. Jim Beard Jan 2017 #111
My point is that her tactic of talking about everything but Ms. Toad Jan 2017 #116
"alternative facts". Only Trumpoid Deplorables would swallow that line. oasis Jan 2017 #120
My point is that "alternative facts" were not the only Ms. Toad Jan 2017 #123
This whole thing is so damn depressing. 4 years of this? I'm ready to call it quits now. Native Jan 2017 #53
We're going to have to rethink our relationship with the press. avebury Jan 2017 #73
Yep.. you can tell that's their go to Cha Jan 2017 #97
What's funny is that when she attacks Todd for offeering his opinion about the Spicer presser tblue37 Jan 2017 #114
thank you! I missed this post Cha Jan 2017 #150
they're so good at attacking Conway in part because she's a woman. They still bow down to Trump Bucky Jan 2017 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author tenderfoot Jan 2017 #66
They aren't getting much of a chance Marthe48 Jan 2017 #85
VICTIMS Roy Rolling Jan 2017 #100
"Alternative facts"? procon Jan 2017 #15
Lies. nt. thucythucy Jan 2017 #16
As was said by ex-secret service guy on AM Joy...there are Stellar Jan 2017 #68
I hope they use the term "inoperative" soon 90-percent Jan 2017 #19
This is the Orwellian stuff that Norbert9 Jan 2017 #20
More details? smirkymonkey Jan 2017 #22
Here is the link. kairos12 Jan 2017 #25
Post removed Post removed Jan 2017 #43
Oh how I wish calling a woman a "bitch" would fade out of acceptance regardless of the politics. SticksnStones Jan 2017 #90
I know, I don't like it either, but in this case it seems to fit. smirkymonkey Jan 2017 #91
Certainly not picking a fight...just hate that word thrown at women. SticksnStones Jan 2017 #95
You are right, I don't like it either. smirkymonkey Jan 2017 #113
How about, "Propaganda Barbie"? Eyeball_Kid Jan 2017 #106
Ok, that works. smirkymonkey Jan 2017 #109
Works for me SticksnStones Jan 2017 #138
I call her ms. gish gallop shraby Jan 2017 #141
She even 8th grade hair flipped JustAnotherGen Jan 2017 #24
The flip was something to behold. Native Jan 2017 #56
She did that about a dozen times in the 15 minute interview. George II Jan 2017 #77
I don't think he rattled her - she seized on the use of the word "ridiculous" adigal Jan 2017 #27
I do think that was a poor choice of words by him, however kairos12 Jan 2017 #28
Hah! As soon as she said "alternative facts" she lost all credibility brush Jan 2017 #35
Ms. Collie-Anne Conway-Goebbels never HAD any credibility.... lastlib Jan 2017 #84
Yep! I thought of Goebbels too. brush Jan 2017 #142
I don't think he rattled her - she seized on the use of the word "ridiculous" LenaBaby61 Jan 2017 #152
I couldn't get through the whole scuffle tom_kelly Jan 2017 #31
Comrade KelllyAnne is a living lie Achilleaze Jan 2017 #32
Tokyo Rose. Eyeball_Kid Jan 2017 #112
Absolutely not. Tokyo Rose was an obvious propagandist for Japan in WW II... Hekate Jan 2017 #125
Man the more and more I hear Conway, the more disgusted I get lancelyons Jan 2017 #33
Conway like "Him" is a Compulsive liar ScubaSteve Jan 2017 #34
It's going to be heaven05 Jan 2017 #36
Shes a lyin sack of shit just like her boss workinclasszero Jan 2017 #37
I see why Trump praised her as his fighter SujiwanKenobee Jan 2017 #39
I don't agree. Todd knew that Conway wasn't going to answer the question from the get-go. Eyeball_Kid Jan 2017 #117
He got her to say "alternative facts." That's pretty damn good in my estimation. Native Jan 2017 #129
I could only take 5 minutes of that BS. It's going to be a loooooog 4 years. Vinca Jan 2017 #40
With the BLATANT LIES being told...they can start going after them. TrekLuver Jan 2017 #41
perfect example of why she was hired,,,,,,nt Cryptoad Jan 2017 #42
How the hell does she sleep at night? nini Jan 2017 #44
She has always looked... skypilot Jan 2017 #60
Amazing Madam Mossfern Jan 2017 #46
+1 narnian60 Jan 2017 #88
She's aged about 15 years since she started shilling for Trump. stopbush Jan 2017 #48
She looks the same to me. Native Jan 2017 #59
Harpies don't change Marthe48 Jan 2017 #89
Her 50th birthday was day of the inaugeration... dixiegrrrrl Jan 2017 #143
Looked like the same ol' gish gallop to me. Buckeye_Democrat Jan 2017 #49
Also, she's a WASTE of our airwaves! Pointless, non-educating time-filler!! Buckeye_Democrat Jan 2017 #54
She 2naSalit Jan 2017 #79
She can't answer the question without blowing the lead. Eyeball_Kid Jan 2017 #121
Unbelievable. I don't find her amusing at all. ecstatic Jan 2017 #50
Almost made it for 5 minutes randr Jan 2017 #51
She is on Face the Nation now spewing the same old bullshit. SamKnause Jan 2017 #52
Her behavior is absolutely disgusting! tenderfoot Jan 2017 #55
Its a start. Stinky The Clown Jan 2017 #57
I am so sick of reporters calling lies by every other possible name. Falsehood? Seriously? Native Jan 2017 #58
Lies cilla4progress Jan 2017 #83
IKR? workinclasszero Jan 2017 #108
I tried. I just cannot listen to that voice. CanonRay Jan 2017 #61
Alternative Facts needs to go viral bluecollar2 Jan 2017 #62
OMG.... joewicker_TX Jan 2017 #63
Did anyone catch the press threat? AJT Jan 2017 #64
Yes. They should react in kind and STOP interviewing her! Buckeye_Democrat Jan 2017 #69
Yup. I was screaming at my computer. First CNN. Now NBC adigal Jan 2017 #75
Bingo AJT Jan 2017 #119
Then they'll just have to write about what they know Cha Jan 2017 #122
No, Propaganda Barbie, you've got it backwards. Eyeball_Kid Jan 2017 #124
That and telling them how to do their jobs and the veiled payback threats. Native Jan 2017 #132
Yes. It was blatant. That's when I stopped listening. Lochloosa Jan 2017 #155
Has any face EVER cried out more desperately for a pie? 11 Bravo Jan 2017 #65
I can't think of one Zambero Jan 2017 #72
JHFC.. I don't know how the hell I made it through Cha Jan 2017 #70
his followers will love her attitude even though she completely avoids an answer to his question DrDan Jan 2017 #74
Too bad he didn't bring up Katy Tur's video: George II Jan 2017 #78
Perhaps somebody should set up a Crowdfund page so folks can donate to buy catbyte Jan 2017 #80
They better get it through their collective heads superpatriotman Jan 2017 #81
That's the first time I have seen Todd show some balls. Bravo! BigBearJohn Jan 2017 #82
I'm calling My Bank Ccarmona Jan 2017 #86
On ABC, George Snufalumpolus was brutal about the lies told about the coronation. alfredo Jan 2017 #87
Lol. Good for Mr. Snuffleupagus! Buckeye_Democrat Jan 2017 #96
Reminds me of an old drinking buddy alfredo Jan 2017 #148
Does she use BS to fuel her broom? If so she should be careful. appleannie1943 Jan 2017 #93
Todd ALMOST managed to utter the word "lie," but then stopped himself and slid right to "provable tblue37 Jan 2017 #94
Conway's toy soldier outfit goes with the nickname, "Propaganda Barbie." Eyeball_Kid Jan 2017 #98
And she's turning more orange! SaveOurDemocracy Jan 2017 #102
From #SpicerFacts: Danascot Jan 2017 #104
LOL! Fast Walker 52 Jan 2017 #131
I think we are going to have rethink our relationship here? liberal N proud Jan 2017 #110
Everytime I hear her ramble on... zanana1 Jan 2017 #115
god, she's horrible ProfessorPlum Jan 2017 #127
KellyAnn Goebbels is just sickening... as bad as Trump himself Fast Walker 52 Jan 2017 #133
Who Fucking Cares?! SoCalMusicLover Jan 2017 #134
I really don't think she gets rattled at all. sammythecat Jan 2017 #135
Chuck Todd can't stand Kellyanne JI7 Jan 2017 #136
This is what we get with an unvetted piece of crap in office! Rex Jan 2017 #137
Todd: Bravo, excellent. A tutorial for your fellow journos. NCjack Jan 2017 #140
She is a sick ass too bdamomma Jan 2017 #144
How does one learn to do what she does. IcyPeas Jan 2017 #145
You'll first want to get parts of your brain removed. Buckeye_Democrat Jan 2017 #146
All he did was keep asking her to answer his simple question. Mister Ed Jan 2017 #147
OK, this cultural reference canetoad Jan 2017 #149
Ab Fab! Frogg Jan 2017 #153
Conway still dominated most of the segment...Don't fool yourselves beachbum bob Jan 2017 #154
Chuckie Todd found a spine Gothmog Jan 2017 #156

Arkansas Granny

(31,531 posts)
3. I think I've figured her out. The faster she talks, the bigger the lie
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 10:23 AM
Jan 2017

that is issuing from her lips. She and DT should know better than to bait and belittle the press.

dubyadiprecession

(5,722 posts)
5. It's like everyone in trump's administration is adopting his "Thin skinned mindset".
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 10:25 AM
Jan 2017

What press secretary shows up to bitch about crowd size being bigger than it was, and proof of the matter says the opposite???

To make matters even more fucked up, he takes no questions and ends the press meeting!!

Native

(5,943 posts)
6. Conway calling Spicer's lies "Alternative Facts"
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 10:26 AM
Jan 2017
Wow. @KellyannePolls introducing a new term on @MeetThePress today to excuse @seanspicer lies: "alternative facts." - Joy Reid on Twitter
And more from her...
My god, have these people no shame?

And
What @KellyannePolls is doing on @MeetThePress right now is stunning. This is not the communication tactic of a democracy. My god.

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
47. Or, like religious fantasies are facts.
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 11:33 AM
Jan 2017

The alternative reality starts with believing religious bullshit, continues with elevating religious fantasy to the level of fact and ultimately ends with enacting laws based on those fantasies, laws that effect real people.

Joediss

(84 posts)
76. Religion and fox news
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 12:16 PM
Jan 2017

Religion and fox news ( alternate facts ) is a couple of reasons that we got these people in the white house.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
30. I think her 'tell' is when she opens her mouth
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 11:13 AM
Jan 2017

It's a dead giveaway. It's open, she's lying. Period.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
10. Next 3 weeks a lot of the foul shit aboard the illegitimate Republican-Russian Regime, Inc. will..
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 10:27 AM
Jan 2017

...ooze out through the cracks. I dare say.

kairos12

(12,873 posts)
18. He would not let up on one question...
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 10:36 AM
Jan 2017

He kept asking her why the White House sent out the Press Secretary to lie about a prove able fact like crowd size. She kept trying to deflect with unrelated statements but he would not let up. She refused to answer about why the White House began it's relationship by not telling the truth.

Please watch a tape of it. I can't do it justice. It was the first time that I've seen Conway completely rattled. Sorry I don't have the link.

Cha

(297,678 posts)
21. That's okay.. you did a fine job, kairos.. thank you!
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 10:47 AM
Jan 2017

I hope they keep doing that and she stays rattled.

So she never did answer the question.. but everyone knew she was a lying sack of shite. Good.

Like to be a spider on the wall after that session with them in the war room and Conway having to explain why she got so rattled with gish galloping.. do they need to find someone who won't get rattled? lol

oasis

(49,408 posts)
38. Todd was unrelenting. Conway immediately went into her deflection routine.
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 11:24 AM
Jan 2017

She's going to go off her rocker in a few short months. The unraveling will be delicious.
Thanks for the link.

Native

(5,943 posts)
126. Can we please leave her looks out of this?
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 01:46 PM
Jan 2017

She gives us plenty to despise and discuss without going there.

LenaBaby61

(6,977 posts)
151. Totally agree...
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 04:04 AM
Jan 2017

She does look haggard, and her hair looks like flat-ironed straw.

She's lucky that she wasn't called Mooochelle as in cow, an ape in heels, or monkey face, gorilla, man-beast, N-word or chimpanzee like Michelle Obama was and IS called.

Hell, I'd take being called haggard anytime over many of those golden racist oldies like Michelle was/is called.

Ms. Toad

(34,092 posts)
71. She almost derailed him when she completely mischaracterzed yesterday's marches.
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 12:04 PM
Jan 2017

But he did a quick recovery and came right back at him.

Ms. Toad

(34,092 posts)
116. My point is that her tactic of talking about everything but
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 01:14 PM
Jan 2017

almost worked at the point when "everything but" was a mischaracterization of the goals of the march. He started to take the bait on that one, then made a fantastic recovery.

oasis

(49,408 posts)
120. "alternative facts". Only Trumpoid Deplorables would swallow that line.
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 01:18 PM
Jan 2017

The new WH is counting on their continued allegiance to ignorance.

Ms. Toad

(34,092 posts)
123. My point is that "alternative facts" were not the only
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 01:24 PM
Jan 2017

tactic being used - AND - one of her other tactics nearly worked.

It takes intense focus not only to point out the obvious, but to avoid being derailed by her other tactics. He was extremely good through most of that segment (better than I've seen before), but she still nearly manged to derail the conversation when she tried to twist the marches as being directed toward failures of the Obama administration.

avebury

(10,952 posts)
73. We're going to have to rethink our relationship with the press.
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 12:07 PM
Jan 2017

That will become the onging threat everytime they get their feelings hurt.

tblue37

(65,488 posts)
114. What's funny is that when she attacks Todd for offeering his opinion about the Spicer presser
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 01:10 PM
Jan 2017

as being ridiculous, she is actually saying just what Todd himself said when asked why he didn't push back against Right Wing lies. Todd said it wasn't the press's job to say whether the interviewee was lying or telling the truth!


SNIP

During a segment on "Morning Joe," former Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell (D) speculated that most opponents of the Affordable Care Act have been fed erroneous information about the law. Todd said that Republicans "have successfully messaged against it" but he disagrees with those who argue that the media should educate the public on the law. According to Todd, that's President Barack Obama's job.

"But more importantly, it would be stuff that Republicans have successfully messaged against it," Todd told Rendell. "They don't repeat the other stuff because they haven't even heard the Democratic message. What I always love is people say, 'Well, it's you folks' fault in the media.' No, it's the President of the United States' fault for not selling it."

SNIP


Later he tweeted that he didn't mean to not to call out lies, but of course that is exactly the effect of not calling out lies because you don't think it's your job to do so:

Chuck Todd ✔ @chucktodd
I was NOT saying it isn't job of journos to call out lies, I said it was not job of media to sell WH's health care message, it is WH's job

Cha

(297,678 posts)
150. thank you! I missed this post
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 03:46 AM
Jan 2017

yesterday but saw it edited in your OP and suffered through it.

I never want to hear here again in my life. First and only time yesterday.. I felt like I was violated with attempted brainwashing.

She's a danger to humanity

Response to Bucky (Reply #14)

Roy Rolling

(6,933 posts)
100. VICTIMS
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 12:59 PM
Jan 2017

Be careful of the real punch they throw after they whiff---"we are really the victims here". As sure as the sun rises, "we are victims" will make an appearance.

As in "blah, blah, blah I'll go high while you go low." BAM! There it is.

Stellar

(5,644 posts)
68. As was said by ex-secret service guy on AM Joy...there are
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 11:59 AM
Jan 2017

no alternative facts...you have facts or lies.

90-percent

(6,829 posts)
19. I hope they use the term "inoperative" soon
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 10:43 AM
Jan 2017

A nostalgic trip back to the Nixonian days of my youth.


-90% Jimmy

 

Norbert9

(494 posts)
20. This is the Orwellian stuff that
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 10:45 AM
Jan 2017

Keeps me up at night
Makes me sick to my stomach
Brings thoughts of emigration

Now that it's coming from the White House press room, it's scary

Response to kairos12 (Reply #25)

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
91. I know, I don't like it either, but in this case it seems to fit.
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 12:48 PM
Jan 2017

Sorry, but I really don't know what else to call her.

SticksnStones

(2,108 posts)
95. Certainly not picking a fight...just hate that word thrown at women.
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 12:53 PM
Jan 2017

I'd call her detestable, graceless, an enemy combatant....



Peace ~

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
113. You are right, I don't like it either.
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 01:08 PM
Jan 2017

I will try not to use that word in the future. There are other words that can describe her better. Sorry for my insensitivity.

JustAnotherGen

(31,899 posts)
24. She even 8th grade hair flipped
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 10:55 AM
Jan 2017

She's exactly like Trump. A childish liar. When we finally get rid of him I'm not going to tolerate "I was following orders" from the cheerleader.

 

adigal

(7,581 posts)
27. I don't think he rattled her - she seized on the use of the word "ridiculous"
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 11:01 AM
Jan 2017

And from then on, she was smirking at him.
As long as they invite her on, she wins.

kairos12

(12,873 posts)
28. I do think that was a poor choice of words by him, however
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 11:02 AM
Jan 2017

she was done after she used the phrase "alternative facts."

brush

(53,871 posts)
35. Hah! As soon as she said "alternative facts" she lost all credibility
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 11:21 AM
Jan 2017

Last edited Sun Jan 22, 2017, 04:28 PM - Edit history (1)

She did continue with her gish gallop bs though.

lastlib

(23,287 posts)
84. Ms. Collie-Anne Conway-Goebbels never HAD any credibility....
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 12:31 PM
Jan 2017

...except with the ditto-heads that worship her Feuhrer.

LenaBaby61

(6,977 posts)
152. I don't think he rattled her - she seized on the use of the word "ridiculous"
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 04:12 AM
Jan 2017

Agree.

The lying witch got her lying points across very effectively, and I really didn't see ANYTHING from toad rebuking her or making her cower.

As you rightfully said, SHE WON......AGAIN.

tom_kelly

(962 posts)
31. I couldn't get through the whole scuffle
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 11:14 AM
Jan 2017

I find that people that constantly repeat the name of the person they're talking to are usually vindictive sorts. It took everything Todd had to keep from saying "lied." It was killing him. Does she eat food?

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
32. Comrade KelllyAnne is a living lie
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 11:17 AM
Jan 2017

Astonishing.

She is DEVIOUSNESS incarnate. Master of MindFuckery

The KGOP is clearly a criminal enterprise straight up from the hell realms of the DARKSIDE.

Hekate

(90,816 posts)
125. Absolutely not. Tokyo Rose was an obvious propagandist for Japan in WW II...
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 01:42 PM
Jan 2017

....with a soft and friendly voice beamed directly at US troops in the Pacific from our deadly enemy, attempting to undermine their morale with a combination of fake news, concern for their wellbeing, and propaganda. Can't remember if she also played popular tunes for them. I believe she was a US citizen who got stuck in Japan by the outbreak of the war. 50 years later we find out she was coerced, but she did do our enemy's bidding. Go google.

Kellyanne is a whole different kettle of fish: malignant, a master of the Gish Gallop, all the subtlety of a jackhammer, and she is not being coerced. She herself is the enemy, of her own free will.

I will take credit for starting to call Thom Hartmann "Tokyo Rose" here at DU. I'm being consciously sarcastic, but in a very specific sense. There is no joke at the end of this post.

Thom is someone admired and trusted by a certain segment of America, and he is broadcasting from the studios of a country that is our sworn enemy. Up to a point, I see how he and a few other Americans got there in the first place: the smiling face, the offer of the hand of brotherhood, the Cold War is officially over, the paycheck.

But Putin's Russia is now revealed not only for what some of us knew already, but as an entity that is actively trying to destroy the government of the US as well as that of democratic European nations.

Russia effing bent our presidential election. What the Hell is Thom Hartmann doing still taking their money?

Just saying: I don't use the term lightly, and I'll always be careful to whom I apply it.

 

lancelyons

(988 posts)
33. Man the more and more I hear Conway, the more disgusted I get
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 11:18 AM
Jan 2017

The lady can flat out deflect and Lie.

disgusting.

ScubaSteve

(83 posts)
34. Conway like "Him" is a Compulsive liar
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 11:19 AM
Jan 2017

And the definition is:

Compulsive Liar -
A compulsive liar is defined as someone who lies out of habit. Lying is their normal and reflexive way of responding to questions. Compulsive liars bend the truth about everything, large and small. For a compulsive liar, telling the truth is very awkward and uncomfortable while lying feels right. Compulsive lying is usually thought to develop in early childhood, due to being placed in an environment where lying was necessary. For the most part, compulsive liars are not overly manipulative and cunning (unlike sociopaths), rather they simply lie out of habit.

We will no longer hear any "TRUTH" out of the White House…Sad!

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
36. It's going to be
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 11:22 AM
Jan 2017

a loooooonnnng 4 years. Damn!!! She is pitiful.....they will threaten and try to shut down the press in this country...guaranteed. And just like many dictators have done they will try to shut us out(internet).

SujiwanKenobee

(290 posts)
39. I see why Trump praised her as his fighter
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 11:25 AM
Jan 2017

We may loathe her but honestly, she did exactly what her job calls for and she's a master at over-talking, pivoting, attacking and obfuscation. I think she triumphed over Todd because he couldn't get anything he wanted from this interview. I was struck by her comment of "we're going to have to rethink our relationship here..."
Is it possible to play their same game by publically *not* using the appointed Trump people for news? Who is there who supports Liberals and has the same "gift" of giving no ground, that could go toe to toe with KA?

Eyeball_Kid

(7,434 posts)
117. I don't agree. Todd knew that Conway wasn't going to answer the question from the get-go.
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 01:15 PM
Jan 2017

What's she going to say? "Oh, yes, we trotted out the 'bad media' theme because we are intent on controlling the message and using the media to be our propaganda arm, and we'll bully the media at every opportunity until the relent and be our toadies."

Of course she wouldn't go there. Trumpy doubles-down. He apparently thinks he can win, so he'll try pummeling the press at every opportunity. Trumpy seriously sees this as WAR. That's why the CIA was so nice to him yesterday. They don't have to incite war with Trumpy. They can just go about their investigations linking Trumpy to Russia. And when the shit hits the fan, Congress will be splattered with the spray and they'll be forced to respond.

Already, the Trumpy White House is under siege.

 

TrekLuver

(2,573 posts)
41. With the BLATANT LIES being told...they can start going after them.
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 11:25 AM
Jan 2017

She is really is fucking disgusting though. I cannot wait until history corrects all this...history is not going to let these BLATANT LIARS get away with this. They think they're so smart - you are going to BURN in the annals.

Madam Mossfern

(2,340 posts)
46. Amazing
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 11:32 AM
Jan 2017

I can't watch her - my blood pressure skyrockets. I think it's her constant talking and over-talking - not paying attention, deflection, obfuscation and purposely 'not understanding.'

I applaud Chuck Todd for being able to put up with speaking with her at all.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,857 posts)
49. Looked like the same ol' gish gallop to me.
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 11:37 AM
Jan 2017
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Gish%20Gallop
Named for the debate tactic created by creationist shill Duane Gish, a Gish Gallop involves spewing so much bullshit in such a short span on that your opponent can’t address let alone counter all of it. To make matters worse a Gish Gallop will often have one or more 'talking points' that has a tiny core of truth to it, making the person rebutting it spend even more time debunking it in order to explain that, yes, it's not totally false but the Galloper is distorting/misusing/misstating the actual situation. A true Gish Gallop generally has two traits.

1) The factual and logical content of the Gish Gallop is pure bullshit and anybody knowledgeable and informed on the subject would recognize it as such almost instantly. That is, the Gish Gallop is designed to appeal to and deceive precisely those sorts of people who are most in need of honest factual education.

2) The points are all ones that the Galloper either knows, or damn well should know, are totally bullshit. With the slimier users of the Gish Gallop, like Gish himself, its a near certainty that the points are chosen not just because the Galloper knows that they're bullshit, but because the Galloper is deliberately trying to shovel as much bullshit into as small a space as possible in order to overwhelm his opponent with sheer volume and bamboozle any audience members with a facade of scholarly acumen and factual knowledge.


Stop interviewing her! She will ALWAYS avoid answering questions, deflect and accuse.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,857 posts)
54. Also, she's a WASTE of our airwaves! Pointless, non-educating time-filler!!
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 11:41 AM
Jan 2017

Look at how long that interview lasted, and she NEVER answered the question!

I swear, I think the media enjoys interviewing her just because they can't come up with better material to fill their damn shows!!

2naSalit

(86,791 posts)
79. She
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 12:20 PM
Jan 2017

as with the whole cabal, is a waste of good air that should be put to better use by endangered species.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,434 posts)
121. She can't answer the question without blowing the lead.
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 01:21 PM
Jan 2017

Todd knew that she couldn't answer the question because the only way to do so would be to expose the tactical shallowness of Trumpy's approach. And Propaganda Barbie's salary depends on protecting Trumpy. She's the Tokyo Rose of 2017. She's good, but she's a one-act play, and she apparently thinks that we all want her to extend the dates of her performance, as if it's got appeal.

It doesn't.

SamKnause

(13,110 posts)
52. She is on Face the Nation now spewing the same old bullshit.
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 11:41 AM
Jan 2017

She looks like death warmed over.

She deserves everything coming her way for prostituting herself for Trump.

I hope her life is destroyed.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
108. IKR?
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 01:05 PM
Jan 2017

Call them liars and call them LIES!

There will be uncountable opportunities to do so in the next four years with the Dear Leader and his mouthpieces that's for damn sure!

bluecollar2

(3,622 posts)
62. Alternative Facts needs to go viral
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 11:48 AM
Jan 2017

Dems need to use this phrase on a hourly and daily basis...

Remember flip-flop and invented the internet?

Talk about served up on a silver tray...

joewicker_TX

(73 posts)
63. OMG....
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 11:49 AM
Jan 2017

She is the biggest shit show on TV....I cant even.

I'd rather have a root canal with no anesthesia than watch this douche nozzle. She acts like a petulant child. She ain't gonna make it 4 years with Chuckie up her ass every week.

I wonder how long it will take before these twits blackout the news all together and just talk to Faux.

AJT

(5,240 posts)
64. Did anyone catch the press threat?
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 11:52 AM
Jan 2017

She said they may need to rethink Trump’s relationship with the press. That was her point. To convince the base how unfair the press has been to poor Trump (and she does a great job lying and whining) so they can kick the press out.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,857 posts)
69. Yes. They should react in kind and STOP interviewing her!
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 12:01 PM
Jan 2017

It's absolutely pointless unless they just want to fill their time slot with garbage.

 

adigal

(7,581 posts)
75. Yup. I was screaming at my computer. First CNN. Now NBC
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 12:07 PM
Jan 2017

When are they going to get together and start calling her on her shit? And if they remove everyone but Breibart and Fox News, no one will listen. And the real reporters will have time to actually investigate.

Cha

(297,678 posts)
122. Then they'll just have to write about what they know
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 01:22 PM
Jan 2017

not take dictation from the Liars Club.

Yeah, I made myself listen to it, too.. the whining and lying was making me nauseous .. I'll never do that again.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,434 posts)
124. No, Propaganda Barbie, you've got it backwards.
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 01:26 PM
Jan 2017

Perhaps the Press is "rethinking" it's relationship to YOU.

The mood in the streets yesterday tells its own story. That you and your boss refuse to listen will spell your demise.

Native

(5,943 posts)
132. That and telling them how to do their jobs and the veiled payback threats.
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 02:02 PM
Jan 2017

Telling them specifically what they should be reporting instead of calling them on their lies really gets me. I don't know how these reporters don't lose it when they hear that shit.

11 Bravo

(23,926 posts)
65. Has any face EVER cried out more desperately for a pie?
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 11:53 AM
Jan 2017

Something soft, whipped cream perhaps. I don't wish to see any harm come to her, merely the ridicule she so richly deserves.

Zambero

(8,968 posts)
72. I can't think of one
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 12:06 PM
Jan 2017

This particular pie-in-the-face moment would occur at the precise point where Conway mentions "alternative facts". That one should stick, as a suitable euphemism for a bald face lie.

Cha

(297,678 posts)
70. JHFC.. I don't know how the hell I made it through
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 12:02 PM
Jan 2017

that whiny twit's gish galloping.. what a boring fuck@

she's going to have to "rethink their relationship".. damn if I never have to listen to her again it will be too soon.

todd was like a dog with bone though.. he did keep coming back to it through the whole interview while she lied her stupid ass off about everything under the Sun.

Too bad MKL III gave blotus cover.

I hate her gd guts for lying about President Obama

catbyte

(34,454 posts)
80. Perhaps somebody should set up a Crowdfund page so folks can donate to buy
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 12:20 PM
Jan 2017

her a few thousand cases of Imodium for that verbal diarrhea she's suffering from. Jesus Fucking Christ, it's going to be an excruciating 4 years.




 

Ccarmona

(1,180 posts)
86. I'm calling My Bank
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 12:35 PM
Jan 2017

On Monday morning and telling them I have Alternative facts that there's really $250,000 in my account.

appleannie1943

(1,303 posts)
93. Does she use BS to fuel her broom? If so she should be careful.
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 12:52 PM
Jan 2017

She will zoom into outer space one of these days.

tblue37

(65,488 posts)
94. Todd ALMOST managed to utter the word "lie," but then stopped himself and slid right to "provable
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 12:52 PM
Jan 2017

faslehood." (At 2:36 and following.)

Eyeball_Kid

(7,434 posts)
98. Conway's toy soldier outfit goes with the nickname, "Propaganda Barbie."
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 12:57 PM
Jan 2017

I listened to the entire film clip. It was difficult. Her voice is grating and whiney. Let's remember that she is one of the voices for Trumpy, who closely monitors everything she says. Trumpy uses Spicer and Conway as extensions of his massive, bloated ego. What she doesn't seem to be aware of is that most of the country sees her for who she is. Finally, the conventional midwestern perception is taking hold: she's a phony and her boss is a phony. Both know nothing and pretend that they're geniuses. And this interview is a good example of how Conway works. We won't see this act for more than a year. The nation will get so fed up with their bullshit, they'll be screaming to get both of them removed. If they were to just shut up and act dignified, their tenure would last longer. But Trumpy doesn't know how, and he'll insist on fighting every slight, every insult, every challenge.

What a waste.

Danascot

(4,694 posts)
104. From #SpicerFacts:
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 01:03 PM
Jan 2017

Kellyanne Conway is a beautiful woman and not a flesh covered rubber glove pulled over a skeleton



liberal N proud

(60,346 posts)
110. I think we are going to have rethink our relationship here?
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 01:06 PM
Jan 2017


Chuckles should said, fine, let's break up then.
 

Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
133. KellyAnn Goebbels is just sickening... as bad as Trump himself
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 02:03 PM
Jan 2017

sad what conservatism does to people's brains.

 

SoCalMusicLover

(3,194 posts)
134. Who Fucking Cares?!
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 02:05 PM
Jan 2017

The media and guys like Toad can go FUCK THEMSELVES!

Where the fuck were they months ago?

Out for ratings, a bunch of tools. I have not since election day, and will not watch the news media and their tripe anymore. When my local news starts talking politics, instant channel change.

I'll get my news from reputable sources, with intelligent commentary. DU, Colbert, Oliver, Noah, Bee....sad that you have to turn towards comedy to get facts

sammythecat

(3,568 posts)
135. I really don't think she gets rattled at all.
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 02:23 PM
Jan 2017

Ramble? All the freakin' time. It's what she does for a living and, truly, I don't know how she does it. What an awful way to make a living. Day in and day out, all the time, she lies. How the hell does she maintain relationships. I think she has 4 or 5 kids, so she ha a family out there. Are they proud of what she does when they see her? This lying isn't inconsequential. She speaks for the President. Her lies in the future will, no doubt, be flat-out dangerous. This is very serious stuff. And very bizarre. She's a black hole where time disappears. The time interviewers spend talking to her and we spend listening to her is totally wasted and gone forever.

I suppose this isn't a very nice thing to say, but if she dropped dead this afternoon it would be a good thing.

JI7

(89,269 posts)
136. Chuck Todd can't stand Kellyanne
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 02:23 PM
Jan 2017

I don't know if it's because she is a woman but he is tough with her and tHings she says compared to others including trump himself.

Since Todd has shown himself to be a bad reporter I'm going to say this has more to do with sexism than anything else.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
137. This is what we get with an unvetted piece of crap in office!
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 02:27 PM
Jan 2017

Nobody should be surprised by this.

bdamomma

(63,922 posts)
144. She is a sick ass too
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 04:51 PM
Jan 2017

anything for the KING huh Kellyanne???

GAS LIGHTING IS WHAT SHE IS DOING>

Always being up the election too. I do not like her at all.

IcyPeas

(21,904 posts)
145. How does one learn to do what she does.
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 06:57 PM
Jan 2017

Seriously. I have never been a good debater or good at arguing. I freeze up and walk away. I just can't do it. My mind goes all blank if I am flustered.

So where does one learn how to do this. I am asking seriously. Can I go take a class in Kellyanne Conway School of Arguing and Obfuscating and Alternate Facts.

I am amazed watching her avoid answering one question and the twisting and turning - I just don't know how she does it. AND, she is great at it.



Buckeye_Democrat

(14,857 posts)
146. You'll first want to get parts of your brain removed.
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 07:15 PM
Jan 2017
http://brainblogger.com/2012/06/01/the-structure-of-a-psychopath/
The brains of psychopaths showed less gray matter in the anterior rostral prefrontal cortex and temporal poles. These areas of the brain are activated when people think about moral behavior and they are responsible for empathy and understanding other people’s emotions and intentions. They also influence a response to fear and self-conscious emotions such as guilt, embarrassment, and remorse. The offenders without the pathology had gray matter volumes similar to non-offenders.

Mister Ed

(5,944 posts)
147. All he did was keep asking her to answer his simple question.
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 09:06 PM
Jan 2017

I guess that's all it takes to rattle and destroy this deceitful creature.

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
154. Conway still dominated most of the segment...Don't fool yourselves
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 08:23 AM
Jan 2017

Until they cut the mics...Trump minions will ramble on talking over the interviewer...
But she made a huge error in saying alternative facts which now will be used as the description from now on of the trump admin

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