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tavalon

(27,985 posts)
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 12:00 PM Jan 2017

I was a "victim" of a hate crime on Friday

I put victim in parentheses because while I was accosted because of my sign, he started it but I well and thoroughly finished it. He's probably traumatized. I'm not.

Here's how it went down. I went to a much smaller protest in Seattle on Friday night. The front of my sign said "Where are your Taxes?", and the back said, as so many did, "This Pussy Grabs Back". There weren't many people yet and I heard someone yell, "Hey, Bitch, you want me to grab your pussy?!" I turned around, set my sign down and gave him my Terri doesn't take shit stare. It's always worked. People look away and walk away. I wasn't scared and once I knew for sure he was targeting me, I was angry. But, I was determined not to start anything. Then he walked up to me and was less than an arms reach away. He grabbed my breast, I grabbed his shoulder and my knee went up his crotch hard. He went down hard. I picked up my sign and left him with his friends.

Today, my knee hurts so I must have racked him but good.

I guess that's why I decline to call myself a victim. Yeah, it was hateful and he started it but I well and truly ended it.

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I was a "victim" of a hate crime on Friday (Original Post) tavalon Jan 2017 OP
You probably gave him dickbrain concussion. BSdetect Jan 2017 #1
LOL! lunatica Jan 2017 #5
HA! LMAO!! AgadorSparticus Jan 2017 #64
You did good! nt marybourg Jan 2017 #2
You're my hero. nt MrScorpio Jan 2017 #3
I've never had to do anything but the stare tavalon Jan 2017 #7
I only wish his pain some how would be transferred yuiyoshida Jan 2017 #98
I love you!! lunatica Jan 2017 #4
Good for you. SamKnause Jan 2017 #6
Asshole sexual assaulter! Saviolo Jan 2017 #8
Good for you! FoxNewsSucks Jan 2017 #9
Roar !! C_U_L8R Jan 2017 #10
OMG! sheshe2 Jan 2017 #11
Ha ha!!! Buckeye_Democrat Jan 2017 #12
Way to go! wildeyed Jan 2017 #13
Oh, I bet they reframed it as me being the attacker tavalon Jan 2017 #15
Nah, they laughed at him for getting beat on by a girl. wildeyed Jan 2017 #29
Wow, I have to say tavalon Jan 2017 #31
It always shocks them when they are 2naSalit Jan 2017 #33
They think of us all as subhuman and infantile. wildeyed Jan 2017 #37
Some relevant levity... Buckeye_Democrat Jan 2017 #14
Darn, it won't play for me. tavalon Jan 2017 #17
I looked for a YouTube version, but NBC probably removed it... Buckeye_Democrat Jan 2017 #26
Luck him that you didn't file a police report jimlup Jan 2017 #16
Someone mentioned that later but I just wanted to tavalon Jan 2017 #19
I totally understand! jimlup Jan 2017 #20
Might not be too late. AtheistCrusader Jan 2017 #114
Good God. I'm in Seattle. Where was this? nolabear Jan 2017 #18
I went to the Friday night rally tavalon Jan 2017 #21
Westlake area tavalon Jan 2017 #23
Sheesh. nolabear Jan 2017 #24
Good for you! lillypaddle Jan 2017 #22
Maybe this asshole can't comprehend what pussy grabs back means...glad you translated it for him. TrekLuver Jan 2017 #25
The joke I made at work is that clearly he wasn't tavalon Jan 2017 #28
Right on!! mindem Jan 2017 #27
Good for you! Thank you... HipChick Jan 2017 #30
Deserved it. You are no bitch and he is no man. nt retrowire Jan 2017 #32
Good for you! I am glad you gave that bastard what he deserved! smirkymonkey Jan 2017 #34
how dare he barbtries Jan 2017 #35
:) he assaulted you. You fought back. And won the fight. mwooldri Jan 2017 #36
Never felt the need tavalon Jan 2017 #40
Look for a class that also teaches use of a Kubotan. gordianot Jan 2017 #84
Look into Krav Maga, self defense taught to Israeli citizens. You've already used one of FailureToCommunicate Jan 2017 #108
I am sorry you were assaulted... but fuck yeah! Adrahil Jan 2017 #38
Whoa! Wow! Sunny05 Jan 2017 #39
Wow Generator Jan 2017 #41
Brava! The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2017 #42
The thing that worries me is having a situation like that escalate with guns being drawn mnhtnbb Jan 2017 #43
Proud of you! Granny M Jan 2017 #44
Good for you!!! ewagner Jan 2017 #45
Self defense is good IronLionZion Jan 2017 #46
I hope you gave him brain damage! workinclasszero Jan 2017 #47
Double Tap! snort Jan 2017 #48
That's assault. jeffreyi Jan 2017 #49
You're My Hero Leith Jan 2017 #50
I hope you gave that creep a good, hard elbow to his face before he went down. GoCubsGo Jan 2017 #51
WELL DONE! Riverman100 Jan 2017 #52
You just hurple Jan 2017 #53
I am honored to say... N_E_1 for Tennis Jan 2017 #54
I regret that I can only rec this once rurallib Jan 2017 #55
YAAASSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!! BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2017 #56
You rock girl! 40RatRod Jan 2017 #57
GREAT!!! RoBear Jan 2017 #58
Bravo! kanda Jan 2017 #59
Many years ago, our dad gave us a lesson JPPaverage Jan 2017 #60
Um mrs_p Jan 2017 #61
You are a victim, no quotes LittleBlue Jan 2017 #62
Well done! martigras Jan 2017 #63
RIGHT ON SISTER!! AgadorSparticus Jan 2017 #65
No need to put victim in quotes 47of74 Jan 2017 #66
Because we are mostly civil, republicans have mistaken that for weakness hollowdweller Jan 2017 #67
Shame on you for attacking that poor little MRA! Orrex Jan 2017 #68
Way to go!!!! LeftInTX Jan 2017 #69
Good for you! His friends will never let him live that down dae Jan 2017 #70
Good thing today is Sunday. lpbk2713 Jan 2017 #71
I can't believe he grabbed you!! LittleGirl Jan 2017 #72
After you defended yourself you should have held him there and called the police. Sexual assualt TeamPooka Jan 2017 #73
You are a hero of mine now heaven05 Jan 2017 #74
Thank you tavalon Jan 2017 #75
I feel so bad you had to deal with this deplorable jerk. Lint Head Jan 2017 #76
Gosh, I hope you didn't hurt his reproductive potential! HassleCat Jan 2017 #77
I am thankful you were able to defend yourself. Lucky Luciano Jan 2017 #78
I have to be in Seattle MFM008 Jan 2017 #79
You are my shero for sure! llmart Jan 2017 #80
I think he was lucky you were not armed. MuseRider Jan 2017 #81
K&R nt ProudProgressiveNow Jan 2017 #82
Did he puke? Warpy Jan 2017 #83
well done....n/t bluecollar2 Jan 2017 #85
This is exactly why in the coming year as many women who can need to take self defense classes. Crash2Parties Jan 2017 #86
well done! Knicks007 Jan 2017 #87
OUTSTANDING!!! Runningdawg Jan 2017 #88
You should have said, "Sorry honey, but I have standards" before he assaulted you. YoungDemCA Jan 2017 #89
K&R... spanone Jan 2017 #90
you should have charged him with assault, on top of the racking. nt TheFrenchRazor Jan 2017 #91
Bravo malaise Jan 2017 #92
Nicely done rock Jan 2017 #93
Bravo! Vinca Jan 2017 #94
I didn't see that coming! (And neither did he or his friends.) Bravo, tavalon! pnwmom Jan 2017 #95
Did you report to the police and have charges filed? roamer65 Jan 2017 #96
Good for you! kimmylavin Jan 2017 #97
He deserved all the hurt you could manage DFW Jan 2017 #99
If your knee was hurting... GaYellowDawg Jan 2017 #100
As a nurse, I actually knew that was what I did tavalon Jan 2017 #110
Good move. When they go low, kick him in the peanuts! JoeOtterbein Jan 2017 #101
small man parts (NT) The Wizard Jan 2017 #102
Glad you're OK nt trocar Jan 2017 #103
You defended yourself from assault (verbal, physical, sexual) - and were well within your rights. CousinIT Jan 2017 #104
CONGRATS YO YOU!We're all proud of you. I hope every woman who reads or hears about napi21 Jan 2017 #105
Hasnt anyone ever told you? cstanleytech Jan 2017 #106
Not hateful, you defended yourself. nt 7962 Jan 2017 #107
I love you!!! Great job. nt iluvtennis Jan 2017 #109
He probably had a dr visit afterwards to Ilsa Jan 2017 #111
I love you.. please be careful mountain grammy Jan 2017 #112
Nice, He got what he deserved. n/t Zing Zing Zingbah Jan 2017 #113

tavalon

(27,985 posts)
7. I've never had to do anything but the stare
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 12:07 PM
Jan 2017

I put every once of my Leo in it. I'm really surprised that he actually kept coming.

yuiyoshida

(41,817 posts)
98. I only wish his pain some how would be transferred
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 06:36 PM
Jan 2017

to the Pervert in Chief, and that for a half hour, his luggage would hurt like hell, so much he would have to sit down.

Saviolo

(3,277 posts)
8. Asshole sexual assaulter!
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 12:07 PM
Jan 2017

Good on you for your strong and *very well targeted* self-defense!

He'll have another think coming next time he ponders sexual assault.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,852 posts)
12. Ha ha!!!
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 12:10 PM
Jan 2017

My God, that idiot was asking for it!

I took some blows down there from baseballs, bicycle top tubes (girl and boy bike designs should be switched) and other things to say... he won't forget that for awhile!

wildeyed

(11,243 posts)
13. Way to go!
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 12:14 PM
Jan 2017


I would totally love to hear the convo they had after you left Bet it was not kind to your attacker.

A very young douchebag yelled 'lock her up' at me as we walked back to the car. I told him to get out of his car so we could discuss it further, but he declined. Despite being on the smallish side, I can bench more than most similar sized men and have a vile temper when physically threatened. These assholes will learn that it is one thing to talk trash behind their computer screens and a total other thing in the real world.

wildeyed

(11,243 posts)
29. Nah, they laughed at him for getting beat on by a girl.
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 12:31 PM
Jan 2017

That type eat their own. The only way they feel big is by making someone else smaller. It is an effective strategy in the short term, but self destructive in the long.

tavalon

(27,985 posts)
31. Wow, I have to say
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 12:36 PM
Jan 2017

That at the ripe old age of 53, being called a girl is odd, but whatever. I'm in good shape for my age, luckily.

2naSalit

(86,282 posts)
33. It always shocks them when they are
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 12:46 PM
Jan 2017

neutralized by a woman/girl... and it really messes with the heads of onlookers when you confront the rest as though you're gonna enjoy looking at them in a heap on the ground.

I'm not a violent person but I have had to defend myself physically and always ended the ordeal with me walking away from a pile of idiot (only one body) on the ground. It wasn't pretty, didn't feel good about it but realized what I had in me and to try to harness that energy and put it to good use.

Thanks for being out there marching!

wildeyed

(11,243 posts)
37. They think of us all as subhuman and infantile.
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 12:51 PM
Jan 2017

Divide us into people they want to fuck and people they do not want to fuck (sorry to be graphic, but it is what it is). Any woman who challenges them goes into the 'do not want to fuck' category and is then eligible for insults. Except they still look at your butt as you walk away

I was an amateur-elite athlete in my younger days. I would complete an impressive athletic accomplishment, and there were many men who couldn't even SEE the truth in front of their eyes. They would discount by saying they didn't want to have sex with me (lol, never an option that was on the table from my perspective) or whatever insulting, pointless thing they could think of. There is NOTHING that makes them feel more tiny and insecure than a woman who can beat them in typically male areas of sport and physical accomplishment.

That guy assumed he could touch your body without your consent and you corrected that pretty damn quickly! That is going to hurt him way more than his sore balls

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,852 posts)
26. I looked for a YouTube version, but NBC probably removed it...
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 12:27 PM
Jan 2017

long ago.

It didn't play for me until I enabled Flash Player. I have an add-on to disable/enable it.

tavalon

(27,985 posts)
19. Someone mentioned that later but I just wanted to
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 12:23 PM
Jan 2017

Not have his friends decide to defend his balls. I got out of there, post haste.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
114. Might not be too late.
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 11:40 AM
Jan 2017

Probably a short list of people with ruptured testicles at Harborview.

Not criticizing you for not reporting it, just lamenting that a creep like that belongs in jail.

nolabear

(41,926 posts)
18. Good God. I'm in Seattle. Where was this?
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 12:23 PM
Jan 2017

I know we have that image of liberalism but there are some serious fuckweasels in this town. I'm happy you're okay and happier he's not.

 

TrekLuver

(2,573 posts)
25. Maybe this asshole can't comprehend what pussy grabs back means...glad you translated it for him.
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 12:26 PM
Jan 2017

He's lucky you didn't call the cops on his dirtbag ass.

You were not hateful...you fought fire with fire. You can't fight fire with a raindrop.

tavalon

(27,985 posts)
28. The joke I made at work is that clearly he wasn't
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 12:29 PM
Jan 2017

Listening in anatomy class, because unless my breasts are now pussy one and pussy two, that kid had no idea what to grab.

Needless to say, I've renamed them as above.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
34. Good for you! I am glad you gave that bastard what he deserved!
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 12:46 PM
Jan 2017

And even more glad that you were not harmed. I did something similar when I was in college. A guy would not stop grabbing my ass at a frat party so I turned around and grabbed his crotch as hard as I could. He went away. These pathetic men are paper tigers. Turn it back on them and they will flee.

barbtries

(28,752 posts)
35. how dare he
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 12:50 PM
Jan 2017

it's great that you hurt him back and worse, but i can't help but wish you had also had him arrested for assault and pressed charges. there must have been plenty of witnesses.

having said that, way to assert yourself! i probably would have whacked him with my sign or some other weak thing.

mwooldri

(10,299 posts)
36. :) he assaulted you. You fought back. And won the fight.
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 12:50 PM
Jan 2017

He started it for sure. You defended yourself.

You took self defence classes? If you did and paid money... money well spent. No-one grabs the boobies without permission.

gordianot

(15,229 posts)
84. Look for a class that also teaches use of a Kubotan.
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 04:59 PM
Jan 2017

A small piece of plastic about the size of a pencil you would be shocked at what it can do with a little training. I carry a tactical pen not considered a weapon I know what anyone can do the pen is mightier than the sword and much more discreet. No need for martial arts.

Sunny05

(865 posts)
39. Whoa! Wow!
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 12:54 PM
Jan 2017

Glad you're alright. And wish I could hang out with you, go where you go, have you go where I go! (Hey, back off, I've got DU Terri with me!)



DU, may we have a pink smiley emoticon? Or another hats-off smiley, but w/ a pink pussy hat? (Still love all original smileys and icons!). Or a pink frog thingy jumping up and down?

 

Generator

(7,770 posts)
41. Wow
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 12:55 PM
Jan 2017

Only place I was ever grabbed was in Europe-by dirty old men on the street and train when I was in my 20's. This is worse because they are targeting you because you are standing up for your rights as a woman in America during the beginning of a fascist coup. Glad you fought back and are okay! Many on the other side DO hate us and this is everything Trump has enabled-hate of women and all the others he targeted. Bring someone with you if you can next time!

mnhtnbb

(31,365 posts)
43. The thing that worries me is having a situation like that escalate with guns being drawn
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 01:01 PM
Jan 2017

Good for you going after his weak spot.

I have never understood why more women don't do it. Years ago--when I was in my 20's--it was very common for women
to take self defense classes and we all learned to be prepared to defend ourselves.

Now, though, I worry about how many of these predatory males are also carrying guns--to defend their phallic rights--and whether
they would escalate against a woman who would dare to defend herself.

GoCubsGo

(32,069 posts)
51. I hope you gave that creep a good, hard elbow to his face before he went down.
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 01:47 PM
Jan 2017

Although the physical pain from the nut-shot, and the pain of being humiliated in front of his friends, is probably enough. Hope it sunk into his thick skull.

Riverman100

(273 posts)
52. WELL DONE!
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 01:50 PM
Jan 2017

When I was in high school I was taking classes at the local ymca. Thursday was judo, Tuesday was self defense. One Tuesday night the instructor told us that "no matter what, a good kick in the balls will cure anyone".

RoBear

(1,188 posts)
58. GREAT!!!
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 02:05 PM
Jan 2017

And I'm still of the opinion that every rapist should be put in prison and become the "toy" of his fellow inmates.

FIGHT BACK!

kanda

(174 posts)
59. Bravo!
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 02:05 PM
Jan 2017

You are a hero and an inspiration. I hope that if I should ever find myself in a similar situation, I remember this and follow your lead. Thank you.

JPPaverage

(508 posts)
60. Many years ago, our dad gave us a lesson
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 02:27 PM
Jan 2017

He told both my sister and I that sometimes you have to just punch a bully in the mouth. Granted, that was a long time ago and things have changed, but I still feel that's the most effective way to deal with someone like that. So, great job at kneeing the sexual predator in his balls. He deserved it and may think twice before he tries that again with any other women. This is from a middle aged fat bald guy. Again, congratulations even though violence is a last resort.

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
62. You are a victim, no quotes
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 02:28 PM
Jan 2017

That you gave worse than you got is irrelevant. You were sexually assaulted. I'm glad you weren't traumatized by it, but that was definitely assault.

 

hollowdweller

(4,229 posts)
67. Because we are mostly civil, republicans have mistaken that for weakness
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 03:02 PM
Jan 2017

I think maybe the one lesson we need to take from the election is we need to stop taking shit.

Orrex

(63,154 posts)
68. Shame on you for attacking that poor little MRA!
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 03:04 PM
Jan 2017

More to the point, how did your knee ever manage to find his tiny genitals?

lpbk2713

(42,729 posts)
71. Good thing today is Sunday.
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 03:21 PM
Jan 2017



Now he can sing soprano in the church choir.

Their brains are locked into fifty year in the past. They still
think Dems are Flower Children who won't retaliate.


I admire you for being there and for doing what you did.

TeamPooka

(24,198 posts)
73. After you defended yourself you should have held him there and called the police. Sexual assualt
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 03:39 PM
Jan 2017

is a crime and he should have been arrested.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
74. You are a hero of mine now
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 03:48 PM
Jan 2017

we're going to have to do this and I'm afraid a lot more aggressive retaliation in these upcoming 4 years.

tavalon

(27,985 posts)
75. Thank you
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 04:00 PM
Jan 2017

I really wasn,t expecting such an outpouring of kindness. I'm a nightshifter so I've been asleep and I'm heading back to sleep. Thanks again.

Lint Head

(15,064 posts)
76. I feel so bad you had to deal with this deplorable jerk.
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 04:05 PM
Jan 2017

But happy you stood up for yourself. That's what we need. We need to fight these idiots and stand up for ourselves.
You have courage.

 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
77. Gosh, I hope you didn't hurt his reproductive potential!
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 04:07 PM
Jan 2017

We want to make sure his DNA gets passed on.

Lucky Luciano

(11,247 posts)
78. I am thankful you were able to defend yourself.
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 04:09 PM
Jan 2017

It could have been much worse.

You should press charges if possible.

llmart

(15,524 posts)
80. You are my shero for sure!
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 04:18 PM
Jan 2017

Love that you're a Leo like me I don't take shit from anyone if they start it first. Though I've never had the opportunity to do it in the way you did, I'm pretty sure I'd do the same thing if some guy grabbed my breast or anything else. I'm just not intimidated by anyone - never have been.

From one nasty woman to another, I am really, really proud of you!

MuseRider

(34,093 posts)
81. I think he was lucky you were not armed.
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 04:28 PM
Jan 2017

Who knows what he was going to do? <--- isn't this often an excuse used by others to get away with their violence?

I am non violent but I feel this changing, only slightly. I would approve of your response but not shooting, surely. If this kind of crap becomes normal I may start wearing knee pads and they will not be for the reason some might think.

This always gets worse for women when men are encouraged to do what many of them wanted to do all this time but felt some restraint. It is just another ism that usually does not get taken seriously. Of course there are men who would never consider this kind of behavior, (there it is guys, the essential qualifier ) but the others are out there, I cannot even imagine this happened to you.

I hope you are OK. This can really take a toll on a person, many times much later when they realize they were treated this way.

Warpy

(111,106 posts)
83. Did he puke?
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 04:54 PM
Jan 2017

You really know you've finished it if they puke on themselves.

And if you go to your local city's snot-nosed-male-nobody-will-ever-fuck board, you'll find him bragging about groping you.

Crash2Parties

(6,017 posts)
86. This is exactly why in the coming year as many women who can need to take self defense classes.
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 05:37 PM
Jan 2017

They - white supremacists, misogynists, "righteous' conservative Christians, Men's Rights Advocates, and just general Trump "fan" a**holes are becoming more and more bold.

 

YoungDemCA

(5,714 posts)
89. You should have said, "Sorry honey, but I have standards" before he assaulted you.
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 05:53 PM
Jan 2017

But in all seriousness, what you did was absolutely within your rights. Self-defense.

And thanks for posting this on here. Others who read your post - especially women - could very well be inspired by you if/when they face the same threat from a would-be attacker. We may not appreciate the impact that we can have.

Thank you.

roamer65

(36,744 posts)
96. Did you report to the police and have charges filed?
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 06:25 PM
Jan 2017

He should be brought to court over it...IMO.

It's your choice, of course, but I like to see people like him have a criminal sexual assault record.

If he did it to you, he's done it to other women.

Very glad you are safe and sound!

DFW

(54,253 posts)
99. He deserved all the hurt you could manage
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 06:40 PM
Jan 2017

Once this Republican scum put his hand on your breast all forms of self defense were justified

GaYellowDawg

(4,446 posts)
100. If your knee was hurting...
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 06:59 PM
Jan 2017

Then you squashed one or both testicles up into the pubic bone. You really did a number on him! WELL. DONE.

tavalon

(27,985 posts)
110. As a nurse, I actually knew that was what I did
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 02:29 AM
Jan 2017

I'm a righty so it was an angled knee. The left would have gone straight. Whatever, it feels better today.

CousinIT

(9,209 posts)
104. You defended yourself from assault (verbal, physical, sexual) - and were well within your rights.
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 09:13 PM
Jan 2017

You WERE a victim but you aptly defended yourself and left the dirtbag behind. Well done.

napi21

(45,806 posts)
105. CONGRATS YO YOU!We're all proud of you. I hope every woman who reads or hears about
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 09:53 PM
Jan 2017

your response takes the same action if ever in that situation. Maybe those dickheads will learn the hard way they should not mess with any women!

mountain grammy

(26,594 posts)
112. I love you.. please be careful
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 11:03 AM
Jan 2017

Always remember this: men are afraid women will embarrass them, women are afraid men will kill them.. don't be afraid but please, be careful, always watch your back.
That said, good for you!

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