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PCIntern

(28,387 posts)
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 05:43 PM Jan 2017

For the younger among us...and this is important to keep in mind...

Some reporter or Paper is gonna break this story because...

The Watergate scandal was pursued by only two mainstream papers at the time: The Post and the Times. Of course the Post was the Vanguard with Woodward (became rich, famous, and prolific as an author and TV guest) and Bernstein (became rich, famous, influential, AND is involved in this story about the guy who wast "inaugurated", as well as having married and divorced Nora Ephron(!))..

The story MADE these men and their careers. By all accounts this is a BIGGER story and will allow whoever breaks and follows it to become the most famous journalist(s) possibly ever. I can't wait...

(The Times' Sy Hersh (among others) investigated and published many remarkable Watergate articles)

Oh yes and one more thing: Mr and Mrs Carl Bernstein:

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQk27qmbz8DM60p6q3T2qIM6yXVNOQmCktHbz4tqzu6gwIFfY68jg

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For the younger among us...and this is important to keep in mind... (Original Post) PCIntern Jan 2017 OP
K & R democrank Jan 2017 #1
This should be required watching in HS. mobeau69 Jan 2017 #16
yes also I recall PCIntern Jan 2017 #20
It was pre-cable tv so I listened all day on radio mobeau69 Jan 2017 #21
who is today's sam ervin? mopinko Jan 2017 #30
K & R n/t GP6971 Jan 2017 #2
Fahrenthold at WaPo is on the right track. JHan Jan 2017 #3
And Kurt Eichenwald at "Newsweek." nt tblue37 Jan 2017 #6
And David Corn at MoJo KittyWampus Jan 2017 #28
K&R with hopes of limiting the damage he does in the meantime uppityperson Jan 2017 #4
The question is, Wellstone ruled Jan 2017 #5
he just guaranteed that there will be many leakers at cia. mopinko Jan 2017 #31
My thoughts exactly. Wellstone ruled Jan 2017 #35
Thank you. tecelote Jan 2017 #7
It took awhile for the Watergate story to gain traction LeftInTX Jan 2017 #8
Drip, drip, drip. N/T CottonBear Jan 2017 #10
exactly..nt PCIntern Jan 2017 #12
Yep, it broke before the election then mobeau69 Jan 2017 #22
Most newspapers didn't endorse Trump, even the Republican ones. Buckeye_Democrat Jan 2017 #9
Here in Phoenix the Arizona Republic endorsed a Democrat for the kairos12 Jan 2017 #14
I heard about that! Buckeye_Democrat Jan 2017 #18
Without mainstream values, Nixon was safe bucolic_frolic Jan 2017 #11
Got a point. There was no FOX News or Breitbart. RIP Mr. Cronkite. KittyWampus Jan 2017 #29
this is not obama's rethuglican opposition. this will be a whole different animal. mopinko Jan 2017 #32
I hope you're right. tenorly Jan 2017 #13
Unfortunately, I believe your observations are accurate. kairos12 Jan 2017 #15
Carl Bernstein himself once remarked that if Watergate had happened today, tenorly Jan 2017 #19
Well, then, go to ProPublica. They are a great organization and work in tandem with Frontline Hestia Jan 2017 #23
Excellent. Thank you. tenorly Jan 2017 #26
this is the real reason they want to defund the nea. mopinko Jan 2017 #33
Whole-hardheartedly agree. Hestia Jan 2017 #34
Thanks for the reminder. retrowire Jan 2017 #17
Search on YouTube Best_man23 Jan 2017 #24
thanks!!! nt PCIntern Jan 2017 #25
Chicks dig muckrakers. Binders Keepers Jan 2017 #27

democrank

(12,607 posts)
1. K & R
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 05:47 PM
Jan 2017

Your post brought back so many Watergate memories. What an incredible time that was!

mobeau69

(12,384 posts)
21. It was pre-cable tv so I listened all day on radio
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 08:08 PM
Jan 2017


until it got so big the networks started carrying it live. Sen. Sam "I'm just a country lawyer" Ervin's hearings were spell binding tv to say the least.

mopinko

(73,732 posts)
30. who is today's sam ervin?
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 12:27 PM
Jan 2017

anyone care to predict?

it was an amazing time. if we dont do all that times 10, this country is toast.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
5. The question is,
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 05:54 PM
Jan 2017

who will be Mr. Deepthroat. Trump has pissed off so many climbing to the top.

mopinko

(73,732 posts)
31. he just guaranteed that there will be many leakers at cia.
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 12:28 PM
Jan 2017

that performance yesterday sealed that deal.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
35. My thoughts exactly.
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 02:20 PM
Jan 2017

Noticed a story on Raw Story from a GOP operative,Trump conforms or we take him out. That only took three days. Interesting.

LeftInTX

(34,317 posts)
8. It took awhile for the Watergate story to gain traction
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 06:43 PM
Jan 2017

The break-in happened in the summer of 1972, but it didn't gain traction until 1973.

There were also the Pentagon Papers which were released in 1971, which didn't make a dent in Nixon, until the whole thing collided with the Watergate investigation in 1973. The Watergate investigation showed that Nixon ordered a break-in into Daniel Ellsberg's psychiatrist's office. Events kept snowballing from there.

Buckeye_Democrat

(15,526 posts)
9. Most newspapers didn't endorse Trump, even the Republican ones.
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 06:54 PM
Jan 2017

A little sanity in our new post-truth world.

http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-endorsements-newspaper-editorial-board-president-2016-10

At this point, we all know 2016 is no typical election cycle. This fact is further evidenced by the lopsided endorsements of newspaper editorial boards across the country.

While Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton has garnered the support of more than 240 editorial boards, her Republican rival Donald Trump has only received 19.

The Libertarian candidate Gary Johnson has received nine endorsements, and independent conservative candidate Evan McMullin has one.

In 2012, by contrast, President Barack Obama received 99 endorsements from daily newspapers, and Republican Mitt Romney received 105. Editorial boards have historically favored Republicans.


I suspect it will be newspaper reporters who blow it wide open. They still have journalists doing actual investigative work!

kairos12

(13,596 posts)
14. Here in Phoenix the Arizona Republic endorsed a Democrat for the
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 07:21 PM
Jan 2017

first time in history and got bomb threats for their trouble.

Buckeye_Democrat

(15,526 posts)
18. I heard about that!
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 07:28 PM
Jan 2017

The Cincinnati Enquirer also endorsed Clinton, the first time they had endorsed a Democrat in about a century.

It was mostly a repudiation of Trump, though. They called him dangerous.

bucolic_frolic

(55,180 posts)
11. Without mainstream values, Nixon was safe
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 07:11 PM
Jan 2017

The public was horrified at the criminality, lies, tactics, and coverup

Is the public on the same page today?

Obstruction of justice toppled Nixon, when about half of the GOP in Congress
went against him

Could that happen today?

Call me skeptical.

mopinko

(73,732 posts)
32. this is not obama's rethuglican opposition. this will be a whole different animal.
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 12:33 PM
Jan 2017

they are gonna take as much as they can take, because taking is what they are after. taking our government and lining their pockets.

but there are plenty of cheeto haters on that side of the aisle. more than enough to get it done.
when they feel like they have gotten what they can get, it will be over in the blink of an eye. their knives are sharpened, and waiting in the drawer.

one thing you can count on w authoritarian followers- when the power starts to seep away, someone will be ready to step up.

tenorly

(2,037 posts)
13. I hope you're right.
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 07:16 PM
Jan 2017

Today's corporate media is not the investigative, truth-seeking institution it was in the early '70s though.

One phone call from one of the owners (typically boardroom jet-setters with deep ties to defense outfits) or a top ad buyer is usually enough to derail such things nowadays.

tenorly

(2,037 posts)
19. Carl Bernstein himself once remarked that if Watergate had happened today,
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 07:32 PM
Jan 2017

we would probably not have learned of it from mainstream media mostly because it's very difficult for investigative reporters to get support from media executives for anything that implies going out on a limb.

No Ben Bradlees or Katherine Grahams anymore.

 

Hestia

(3,818 posts)
23. Well, then, go to ProPublica. They are a great organization and work in tandem with Frontline
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 08:20 PM
Jan 2017

on a lot of their harder hitting stories.

This is the digital age, why do they have to go to the MSM?

tenorly

(2,037 posts)
26. Excellent. Thank you.
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 08:59 PM
Jan 2017

ProPublica and Frontline don't get nearly the publicity they deserve - by design, obviously.

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
17. Thanks for the reminder.
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 07:25 PM
Jan 2017

I just gave myself a history lesson and learned about what the hell Watergate was actually about.

The more you know!

Best_man23

(5,268 posts)
24. Search on YouTube
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 08:48 PM
Jan 2017

Within YouTube there are a couple of great documentaries on Watergate. My favorite is one produced by the BBC (link below), which includes interviews and excerpts from many of the key moments and players in Watergate. The documentary is about 2-3 hrs in length and is definitely not recommended for slow data connections or anyone on data capped internet.

&list=PLDjHMZcCeE2pyzZeZrIoXykzF-boH_14O

You can also view the following:

Excerpts from Sen Sam Ervin's (Watergate Committee Chairman) opening remarks to the Watergate committee
Excerpts from John Dean's testimony
Testimony to the committee by John Ehrlichman
Archibald Cox news conference that prompted the Saturday Night Massacre
Excerpts from Barbara Jordan and others
Closing statements prior to the vote to forward Articles of Impeachment to the House floor
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