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Fritz Walter

(4,281 posts)
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 09:23 PM Jan 2017

Is Barron "off limits," here and elsewhere?

A couple of recent posts on Facebook have sparked outrage on the part of some, arguing that mocking Barron Drumpf is beyond the pale.

The first was a meme I remember from my own adolescence (some decades ago), regarding nude photos of one's mother. The meme was posted in response to a GIF where the First Kid did not give a high five to his mother during inauguration ceremonies.

The other is a Change.org petition aimed at NBC/Bombast over something Tweeted by a cast member of SNL.

I have yet to weigh in on either discussion.

Some would argue "sauce for the goose" -- i.e. attacks against Chelsea Clinton, the Obama girls and even the Bush daughters did not prompt such outrage while their respective dads were in office -- so Barron is fair game.

Others argue that children -- including and especially those of public figures -- should be shielded from ridicule and even "bullying" in social media.

Your thoughts, please!

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Is Barron "off limits," here and elsewhere? (Original Post) Fritz Walter Jan 2017 OP
Barron is only 10. We didn't like it when they went after Jimmy Carter's daughter, Chelsea or KewlKat Jan 2017 #1
I would aree. The poor kid is going avebury Jan 2017 #7
Tiffany doesnt seem to be part of his kitchen cabinet renate Jan 2017 #173
+ struggle4progress Jan 2017 #263
Yes. Nt Tommy_Carcetti Jan 2017 #2
Yes. yewberry Jan 2017 #3
Take the high road and leave him alone. I think he is a cutie and feel sorry for him. Glimmer of Hope Jan 2017 #4
+1 grantcart Jan 2017 #117
I agree, besides I have heard rumors he may be autistic. Wiseman32218 Jan 2017 #254
You mean the cyber bullying by people armchair diagnosing him? NoGoodNamesLeft Jan 2017 #258
let him alone. he has no control or power in any of this. boston bean Jan 2017 #5
The Trump team is propagating that stuff liberal N proud Jan 2017 #6
Of course he is off limits. If he grows up to be like his brothers, Eliot Rosewater Jan 2017 #8
Who knows if he'll grow up like his brothers crazycatlady Jan 2017 #40
Adolescents & teens should be off limits. Children Uday & Qusay's age are fair game. Demit Jan 2017 #9
Off limits for criticism? Yes. Discussion of the good that his mother could do, championing autism.. X_Digger Jan 2017 #10
For fuck sake the kid is NOT autistic NoGoodNamesLeft Jan 2017 #26
Please reread your last line and practice what you preach then LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #71
His mother has publicly stated that he does NOT have Autism NoGoodNamesLeft Jan 2017 #90
His mother is a proven liar...we have been through this LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #99
Anyone who won't leave Barron alone is a bully NoGoodNamesLeft Jan 2017 #100
Practice what you preach about armchair diagnosing. Apparently, his father called him a retard LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #112
this post is straight-up trolling melman Jan 2017 #124
Oh *THERE* you are LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #133
Yeah it is.. not even good trolling... dionysus Jan 2017 #247
And his father Dorian Gray Jan 2017 #190
That is a ridiculous claim muriel_volestrangler Jan 2017 #193
FFS, do you not even know what "armchair diagnosing" IS? moriah Jan 2017 #222
That is a pretty valid point. I can see doing that without the intent of malice, but while shame JCanete Jan 2017 #115
I believe that there is some intent of malice, unfortunately NoGoodNamesLeft Jan 2017 #200
Leave the boy alone. It was cruel what Rush Limbaugh did Alice11111 Jan 2017 #180
I agree with you cyclonefence Jan 2017 #211
Thank you NoGoodNamesLeft Jan 2017 #217
I also have a daughter with a disability cyclonefence Jan 2017 #223
I agree NoGoodNamesLeft Jan 2017 #230
Do not make assumptions that he is not. Raine1967 Jan 2017 #252
His mother, through her attorney officially stated he is NOT NoGoodNamesLeft Jan 2017 #253
How about you providing proof, I stated truth. Raine1967 Jan 2017 #255
Here is the statement by Melania's lawyer on this topic NoGoodNamesLeft Jan 2017 #259
So am I. Raine1967 Jan 2017 #261
Yes Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 2017 #11
I haven't seen anyone attacking Barron. And those who speculated whether he is autistic KittyWampus Jan 2017 #12
Yes, they are...they are spreading fake stories and rumors NoGoodNamesLeft Jan 2017 #31
Nonsense. People with autistic children speculating isn't spreading fake news. KittyWampus Jan 2017 #33
His mother is suing over the rumor and says he does NOT have autism NoGoodNamesLeft Jan 2017 #41
His mother lies a lot. That is just a proven fact LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #73
Why do you feel compelled to go after a child after being asked by his mother to stop? NoGoodNamesLeft Jan 2017 #93
Stop getting ahead of yourself...I am not going after a 10 year old LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #98
Going after a parent by using their child is still bullying NoGoodNamesLeft Jan 2017 #101
Bullshit. Going after someone and not practicing what YOU preach is. LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #104
If your beef is with the parents then talk about the parents NoGoodNamesLeft Jan 2017 #108
as long as you practice what you preach about arm cahir diagnosing LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #146
Please provide proof of your medical degree and that Barron is your patient NoGoodNamesLeft Jan 2017 #203
The public has no "right" to know the details of anyone else's child's health status Hekate Jan 2017 #144
+1 True Dough Jan 2017 #177
... NanceGreggs Jan 2017 #182
I don't understand why an adult is so obsessed with this child NoGoodNamesLeft Jan 2017 #204
One wonders. We also have a contingent of DUers who wanted the Obama girls to go to public school Hekate Jan 2017 #236
That's nuts NoGoodNamesLeft Jan 2017 #241
Why do we have a right to know? Dorian Gray Jan 2017 #191
I believe he is autistic and my child is autistic bravenak Jan 2017 #55
This was not acceptable - imo... jonno99 Jan 2017 #127
And we can agree that it would be fine to go after an adult the same way HoneyBadger Jan 2017 #134
Wow. One whole example. An OP for one whole example. That was deleted. KittyWampus Jan 2017 #151
You asked for an example - I gave you one. Why loose your sarcasm on me? If you jonno99 Jan 2017 #171
Because the rightwing is making this into a big deal and you have the nerve KittyWampus Jan 2017 #198
I think it's a big deal MichMary Jan 2017 #224
Perhaps if (like me) you had a kid of similar age with emotional issues you'd feel differently. jonno99 Jan 2017 #235
I'm not making excuses. You have no right to accuse me of doing that. KittyWampus Jan 2017 #245
He's an innocent child. madaboutharry Jan 2017 #13
yes he should be, but none of it is near as ugly as the attacks on Chelsea Clinton so they are JI7 Jan 2017 #14
That doesn't surprise me. Sunny05 Jan 2017 #84
Either we are all in or all out HoneyBadger Jan 2017 #15
BTW, Barron has a Facebook page with racist crap on it. He's too young to have a Facebook KittyWampus Jan 2017 #16
It's not's Barron personal page, its a Fan Page.. HipChick Jan 2017 #19
Started by? Bannon? KittyWampus Jan 2017 #36
Nope...not necessarily...anyone can start a Fan Page.. HipChick Jan 2017 #42
Really? Because no one ever put up a fake facebook page to bully/impersonate anyone else NoGoodNamesLeft Jan 2017 #35
Re-read my post. I have seen no one attacking Barron and the idea people are is rightwing KittyWampus Jan 2017 #38
Oh bullshit, you are spreading lies right here NoGoodNamesLeft Jan 2017 #49
I didn't imply he created a facebook page nor did I insinuate he's autistic. I HAVE seen righwingers KittyWampus Jan 2017 #51
There's 4 other trump kids to criticize yeoman6987 Jan 2017 #89
Not one poster here has crticized Baron Trump, yeoman6987. Kingofalldems Jan 2017 #91
Please. Let's leave the kids alone. cwydro Jan 2017 #17
Yes underpants Jan 2017 #18
Off limits to criticism? Of course. What would one criticize? LittleBlue Jan 2017 #20
Teasing, picking on, making fun of or targeting a 10 year old is bullying, period. NoGoodNamesLeft Jan 2017 #21
Barron should be off limits. He is a child. Leave him alone, here and on other sites as well. In_The_Wind Jan 2017 #22
Unless you can control the internet and it's denizens HipChick Jan 2017 #23
OTOH, we can control what is and is not acceptable in this community. Hekate Jan 2017 #174
Barron, yes. His older siblings, OTOH, are fair game. DinahMoeHum Jan 2017 #24
He's 10 Johnny2X2X Jan 2017 #25
Absolutely positively totally off limits! democratisphere Jan 2017 #27
Hell, yes. Dave Starsky Jan 2017 #28
Barron is "off limits," ! stonecutter357 Jan 2017 #29
IMO Barron is going to need a lot of help before he's an adult by sheer virtue of growing up Trump. no_hypocrisy Jan 2017 #30
Leave Dorian Gray Jan 2017 #32
Yes he should be. redstatebluegirl Jan 2017 #34
My general reply sharp_stick Jan 2017 #37
The admins also need to ban people from speculating NoGoodNamesLeft Jan 2017 #39
You are entitled to your opinion. But you're not a board nanny. I've seen a few parents w/autistic KittyWampus Jan 2017 #47
You have every right to discuss your own child but you have NO right NoGoodNamesLeft Jan 2017 #60
I'm not talking about a 10 year old child. Stop saying I am. And if you were astute KittyWampus Jan 2017 #69
You are talking about Barron Trump, who is 10 NoGoodNamesLeft Jan 2017 #95
No, KittyWampus is talking about how this meme is being spread as to agitate LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #103
You have no right to know anything about that child NoGoodNamesLeft Jan 2017 #110
Once again....WRONG LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #113
Based on what? mythology Jan 2017 #147
No, he is NOT "the first child of the USA". NanceGreggs Jan 2017 #165
Thank you. cwydro Jan 2017 #250
How much personal stuff MichMary Jan 2017 #226
She has every right to speculate about any and every thing bravenak Jan 2017 #79
He's an innocent kid. Hands off, for now. Greybnk48 Jan 2017 #43
Candy? Fritz Walter Jan 2017 #48
Nice of you to check in on your rightwing meme thread. Instead of vague insinuations KittyWampus Jan 2017 #64
The Change.org petition is easily searchable Fritz Walter Jan 2017 #75
It's a famous book from the 60's Greybnk48 Jan 2017 #65
It was wrong to do it to Chelsea, Sacha & Malia and it's wrong to do it to Barron Raine Jan 2017 #44
ivanka is fair game also JI7 Jan 2017 #45
Yes, absolutely. I meant to mention her too and so is Tiffany if she puts herself out there. nt Raine Jan 2017 #58
Children are always off limits LynnTTT Jan 2017 #46
Doing it is wrong. He doesn't need society helping him turn into a sociopath. Ilsa Jan 2017 #50
Yes. He's off limits. He's not responsible for anything but being a little boy. nolabear Jan 2017 #52
He is off limits bravenak Jan 2017 #53
Yes gordianot Jan 2017 #54
Yes, off limits. n/t frogmarch Jan 2017 #56
He's a child Adelante Jan 2017 #57
Barron will be just fine regardless.. HipChick Jan 2017 #59
Barron is NOT fair game... SMC22307 Jan 2017 #61
Minor children should be off limits. They are innocent and have no control, can't vote, have manicraven Jan 2017 #62
Off limits...nt SidDithers Jan 2017 #63
Only that if he has a mental incapacity, it could be a teaching moment LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #66
HIPAA? trixie2 Jan 2017 #136
Sorry sweets, but he is OUR public figure now LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #138
So his rights may be violated? trixie2 Jan 2017 #145
No, he is NOT your public figure. NanceGreggs Jan 2017 #161
Plus a million, Nance. This line of reasoning is appalling. He's not an object. Hekate Jan 2017 #176
Well stated! True Dough Jan 2017 #179
You are 100% right, period NoGoodNamesLeft Jan 2017 #209
Here's a "teaching moment" for you ... NanceGreggs Jan 2017 #184
+infinity NoGoodNamesLeft Jan 2017 #210
No. You don't have a right to know. TDale313 Jan 2017 #186
What the bloody hell is wrong with you? NoGoodNamesLeft Jan 2017 #205
Even though Republicans pick on Democrats kids I will not doc03 Jan 2017 #67
We've got bigger fish to fry LeftInTX Jan 2017 #68
This message was self-deleted by its author brettdale Jan 2017 #70
Yup. Adsos Letter Jan 2017 #72
This message was self-deleted by its author brettdale Jan 2017 #74
I have to disagree with you big time trixie2 Jan 2017 #143
Children should be left alone brettdale Jan 2017 #175
If a minor, esp. that young, Sunny05 Jan 2017 #76
Umm, the 10 year old is posting "groups of angry black men" memes. You know, Missn-Hitch Jan 2017 #77
I'm sure that's not him posting that shit bravenak Jan 2017 #82
Maybe you are right. But that is a great pic of Dad and Son. Missn-Hitch Jan 2017 #87
Barron appears to have 2 FB pages LeftInTX Jan 2017 #94
I am sure they could pull the plug on the "fan" one. It's weird if they allow it to remain up. Missn-Hitch Jan 2017 #122
If it's his "fan club," it's unlikely to be him... regnaD kciN Jan 2017 #142
Yeah, they didn't even spell his name right on part of the fan club page's description LeftInTX Jan 2017 #150
OMG...trolls create fake social media accounts to impersonate famous people all the time NoGoodNamesLeft Jan 2017 #97
Facebook has an age limit of 13 trixie2 Jan 2017 #148
This would be one of the time that we SHOULD go high when they went low. That's how we (should) roll pnwest Jan 2017 #78
I think many of us can sympathize with coming from a crazy family. briv1016 Jan 2017 #80
Yes, off limits. Not only because we're talking HeartachesNhangovers Jan 2017 #81
He is 10 years old. nycbos Jan 2017 #83
Barron is Off Limits, Period Best_man23 Jan 2017 #85
I say 17 and under is off limits. Yes, I know 16 and 17 they Doreen Jan 2017 #86
Absolutely off limits. No question. n/t Mister Ed Jan 2017 #88
What, the other kids don't provide enough for fodder? carpetbagger Jan 2017 #92
Apparently not...some on here would rather bully a 10 year old NoGoodNamesLeft Jan 2017 #106
Off limits JohnnyLib2 Jan 2017 #96
LEAVE BARRON ALONE Skittles Jan 2017 #102
No one will give a shit what I think ProudLib72 Jan 2017 #105
His father called him a retard??? LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #107
Wonkette talked about it. frogmarch Jan 2017 #121
He punched out Junior in college HoneyBadger Jan 2017 #128
OMFG, really? It never ceases to amaze me LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #140
You know how I can tell that you have not raised a teen HoneyBadger Jan 2017 #129
Donald Trump is on a recording calling one of his sons, possibly Barron, a retard. KittyWampus Jan 2017 #156
I know that Tom Arnold ip address tweet HoneyBadger Jan 2017 #164
Is that your excuse for harping on an innocent child? NoGoodNamesLeft Jan 2017 #212
Stop lying about me. I have not attacked Barron once, ever. KittyWampus Jan 2017 #216
You are defending speculating about him. Speculating is gossiping. Gossiping is bullying NoGoodNamesLeft Jan 2017 #219
Speculation and gossip are two wholly different words with two wholly different meanings. LanternWaste Jan 2017 #232
Fair enough...they are just gossiping NoGoodNamesLeft Jan 2017 #234
The perv pres gives us plenty to talk about dembotoz Jan 2017 #109
WOW! And thanks to all!! Fritz Walter Jan 2017 #111
We're better than Limbaugh,... Jimbo101 Jan 2017 #114
I'd say yes, off limits bhikkhu Jan 2017 #116
It's a no-brainer, but man I would love to know A-Schwarzenegger Jan 2017 #118
As a Parent D_Master81 Jan 2017 #119
Actually, surprised Trump hasn't tried to exploit him so far MrPurple Jan 2017 #120
Remember that Hillary complimented Trump's kids HoneyBadger Jan 2017 #126
Yes. Completely off-limits. truebluegreen Jan 2017 #123
Leave minor children alone. Period. nt tblue37 Jan 2017 #125
Yes Freethinker65 Jan 2017 #130
He is 10. mn9driver Jan 2017 #131
Absolutely off limits! trixie2 Jan 2017 #132
Off limits, unless/until he decides to make it otherwise... regnaD kciN Jan 2017 #135
Yes kristndem Jan 2017 #137
yes, he's 10, leave him alone. NotThisTime Jan 2017 #139
Yes, off limits for any type of attack, bullying, etc. OhioBlue Jan 2017 #141
Why would any adult meme a child? Somethings should be left alone NWCorona Jan 2017 #149
I'm frankly appalled that such a question is even being asked. (nt) LongtimeAZDem Jan 2017 #152
Until Barron takes a cabinet position... forgotmylogin Jan 2017 #153
Nope. Children are off limits for politics unless they are both 1) grown up applegrove Jan 2017 #154
He ought to be off-limits Vogon_Glory Jan 2017 #155
Off limits Kaleva Jan 2017 #157
I definitely think a 10 year old child is off limits NastyRiffraff Jan 2017 #158
We have to think of it this way... Caliman73 Jan 2017 #159
Can I add something - THEY are promoting him a lot. I see it all over FB underpants Jan 2017 #160
Yup, I just posted a thread about this. They're claiming Dems are attacking him KittyWampus Jan 2017 #172
Yes he should be off limits. hrmjustin Jan 2017 #162
Attacking a 10 year old makes you look terrible. CaliforniaLove Jan 2017 #163
Yes, off limits. nt stevenleser Jan 2017 #166
Barron's one lucky little boy, because HE has health care... LenaBaby61 Jan 2017 #167
I certainly hope so. "Tit for tat" is their tactic, not ours. TygrBright Jan 2017 #168
They go low, we go high. DesertRat Jan 2017 #169
Of course Lotusflower70 Jan 2017 #170
Yes, Definitely off limits. highplainsdem Jan 2017 #178
Yes... Mike Nelson Jan 2017 #181
I agree that Barron should be off limits... Rollo Jan 2017 #183
NT Rollo Jan 2017 #256
Look at it this way jmowreader Jan 2017 #185
It's within your right to free speech littlemissmartypants Jan 2017 #187
I like this tweet in response: True Dough Jan 2017 #188
his older greedy spawn is more worthy. pansypoo53219 Jan 2017 #189
Chelsea Clinton has come out in defense of Barron, Lady_Chat Jan 2017 #192
What purpose does it serve to go after a child? BainsBane Jan 2017 #194
None of the deplorables or their offspring should be off limits. ileus Jan 2017 #195
Well, I guess if it makes you feel good to beat up a kid with developmental problems... brooklynite Jan 2017 #201
Well, I guess if it makes you feel good to beat up a kid with developmental problems... brooklynite Jan 2017 #202
Dude, at this point, I'm pretty sure you're just a troll to make DU look bad. Tommy_Carcetti Jan 2017 #214
A lot of kids have shitty parents nini Jan 2017 #238
Ten.Years.Old. TDale313 Jan 2017 #249
He's 10. Of course he's off limits. JHB Jan 2017 #196
Kids always be excluded....No exception beachbum bob Jan 2017 #197
Leave 10 year old kids alone, for goodness' sake. MineralMan Jan 2017 #199
Yes with no ifs ands or buts. IADEMO2004 Jan 2017 #206
Children? Off limits. Their parent's shitty care of them? No. nt msanthrope Jan 2017 #207
Yes!!!! Proud Liberal Dem Jan 2017 #208
I was highly offended when people mocked titaniumsalute Jan 2017 #213
I felt so bad for that poor kid on Friday RockaFowler Jan 2017 #215
YES TrishaJ Jan 2017 #218
The question doesn't merit discussion. kstewart33 Jan 2017 #220
As little point in mocking a 10 year old as there is in delegitimizing the Left for it. bluedigger Jan 2017 #221
Its allowance or denial is predicated wholly on your own character LanternWaste Jan 2017 #225
He is only 10 years old.. Peacetrain Jan 2017 #227
The kid's biggest threat MFM008 Jan 2017 #228
There is a BIG difference between when Amy Carter MichMary Jan 2017 #229
Children should be off limits ElkeH Jan 2017 #231
Kids off limits unless he's front and center and starts 'wilding' around. For a second, when they Sunlei Jan 2017 #233
Trump's adult children are fair game. Golden Raisin Jan 2017 #237
I have ZERO interest in Barron. WHY is this even being discussed??? MoonRiver Jan 2017 #239
Leave the kid alone. He's got enough problems. Vinca Jan 2017 #240
Yes, he's off limits. He's a kid. Is this a serious question? DanTex Jan 2017 #242
This shouldn't even be in question sammythecat Jan 2017 #243
You need to delete this post. IT IS OFFENSIVE IN THE EXTREME. MoonRiver Jan 2017 #244
Leave the kids alone Dem2 Jan 2017 #246
Barron is Trump property, too young to be responsible. Orsino Jan 2017 #248
OFF LIMITS. Raine1967 Jan 2017 #251
FREE BARRON! Rollo Jan 2017 #257
I would say so, unless we think he was being mistreated and try to help him. kerry-is-my-prez Jan 2017 #260
Yes IMWITHHERR Jan 2017 #262

KewlKat

(5,624 posts)
1. Barron is only 10. We didn't like it when they went after Jimmy Carter's daughter, Chelsea or
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 09:25 PM
Jan 2017

the Obama girls. I say leave the child alone. Now as for his siblings, the children of the corn, they are knee deep into this administration so they should be held accountable like the Con.

avebury

(10,946 posts)
7. I would aree. The poor kid is going
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 09:28 PM
Jan 2017

to have a tough time being related to Comrade Trump and the Children of the Corn.

yewberry

(6,530 posts)
3. Yes.
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 09:26 PM
Jan 2017

The fact that they mocked Amy Carter, Chelsea Clinton, and the Obama daughters doesn't make it right. Barron Trump might be many things, but none of those things are his doing. Ten-year-olds do not deserve cruelty because of who their parents are.

 

NoGoodNamesLeft

(2,056 posts)
258. You mean the cyber bullying by people armchair diagnosing him?
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 10:27 PM
Jan 2017

His mother had her lawyer release a statement saying that Barron does NOT have autism. People still keep spreading the gossip and bullying, though.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,096 posts)
8. Of course he is off limits. If he grows up to be like his brothers,
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 09:28 PM
Jan 2017

then he will deserve the scorn they deserve, but not now.

crazycatlady

(4,492 posts)
40. Who knows if he'll grow up like his brothers
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 09:45 PM
Jan 2017

For one thing, his father will most likely not be alive by the time he reaches his brothers' age.

X_Digger

(18,585 posts)
10. Off limits for criticism? Yes. Discussion of the good that his mother could do, championing autism..
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 09:29 PM
Jan 2017

.. research with her son as her raison d'etre? Entirely legitimate.

 

NoGoodNamesLeft

(2,056 posts)
26. For fuck sake the kid is NOT autistic
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 09:38 PM
Jan 2017

The video of him being used to imply that was taken very late at night while listening to political speeches. The kid was tired, bored and in bright lights. Seeing this idiotic rumor spread on here is disgusting and people need to fucking STOP IT!

As the parent of a child who really DOES have disabilities I find this armchair diagnosing to be beneath contempt.

 

LaydeeBug

(10,291 posts)
71. Please reread your last line and practice what you preach then
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 10:02 PM
Jan 2017

Because your armchair diagnosis that there is nothing wrong does the exact same thing.

Oh, and as the Carrier of the Fragile X gene and it being THE reason I decided not to have children, um, yeah, I am aware of children with disabilities in my family.

Nice try. No dice.

 

NoGoodNamesLeft

(2,056 posts)
90. His mother has publicly stated that he does NOT have Autism
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 10:23 PM
Jan 2017

She would know that information better than those speculating. His mother has made it very clear that this speculation is unwelcome and hurtful and has caused bullying.

If that is not enough to make you STOP then you really had ought to re-evaluate your motivation.

 

NoGoodNamesLeft

(2,056 posts)
100. Anyone who won't leave Barron alone is a bully
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 10:36 PM
Jan 2017

Anyone spreading rumors about a child is a bully.

Armchair diagnosing a child is spreading rumors.

 

LaydeeBug

(10,291 posts)
112. Practice what you preach about armchair diagnosing. Apparently, his father called him a retard
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 10:45 PM
Jan 2017

Mad? Get mad. Stay mad. Not my words.

Please stop armchair diagnosing this boy. You make this attempt to have it both ways, and I don't think you even realize that YOU are the one ultimately being hurtful to the special needs community.

Your insistence upon armchair diagnosing there is nothing wrong is hypocritical to a large degree...and then your demanding that this is bullying implies there is something wrong with special needs people.

It's gross. Please stop it.

Dorian Gray

(13,469 posts)
190. And his father
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 06:20 AM
Jan 2017

is number one asshole.

Do you really want to be number 2?

Leave the kid and speculation about the kid alone! Good god!

muriel_volestrangler

(101,146 posts)
193. That is a ridiculous claim
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 07:15 AM
Jan 2017

"YOU are the one ultimately being hurtful to the special needs community"

What a hurtful, self-righteous, evidence-free, load of bullshit attack on a fellow DUer.

moriah

(8,311 posts)
222. FFS, do you not even know what "armchair diagnosing" IS?
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 11:55 AM
Jan 2017

It's trying to assign a diagnosis to someone when you have no personal knowledge. "Normal" is NOT an armchair diagnosis, unless people actually close to the person are saying they *do* have a medical problem or a disability and you're suggesting it's fake. And in this case his mother, proven liar or not, says he doesn't have autism.

And I, too, have immediate family with disabilities including autism itself. So don't go all "You don't know about it" on me, either.

Practice what YOU preach.

 

JCanete

(5,272 posts)
115. That is a pretty valid point. I can see doing that without the intent of malice, but while shame
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 10:48 PM
Jan 2017

should have no association to autism, the reality is different, and what's out in the world could almost certainly enter into the child's space and cause harm.
 

NoGoodNamesLeft

(2,056 posts)
200. I believe that there is some intent of malice, unfortunately
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 11:20 AM
Jan 2017

The same few people keep repeating the same falsehoods on this site, even after people have pointed out that what they are saying is not true. They bring up some random facebook page with offensive things posted on it that is obviously not the child's page. But you have to wonder...why on earth would an ADULT go searching for a 10 year old child online? Everyone knows those videos of that boy they are using as "evidence" were taken very late at night when any kid would be rubbing their eyes and be tired. No 10 year old is interested in political speeches...it's boring to them.

So now we have people here who believe they are entitled to know everything about this child, including his private medical history. It's very disturbing. There is absolutely nothing wrong with anyone having a disbility. I am the mother of a child with disabilities. There IS something seriously wrong with gossiping and spreading rumors about a kid that the person does not even know. It's mean spirited and there is NEVER an honorable intent when someone does that. After having been the target of someone who uses "concern" as a way to sabotage, smear and undermine and spread hateful, false and viscous gossip...I can spot that crap a mile away. This is done by someone who wants to come across as being innocent of being nasty and mean while still going after someone in a sneaky way. It's disgusting. That's why I'm sticking up for Barron. I would do the same for the child of anyone here if they were being targeted in the same way. It's unacceptable.

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
180. Leave the boy alone. It was cruel what Rush Limbaugh did
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 03:32 AM
Jan 2017

to Amy Carter and Chealsea. The whole RW media did it, and with the the Obama girls too. Their faces and scandals and photos were on the cover of the great bastion, The National Enquier. Howard Stern also did.
Even with Sarah Palin's kids, it was the lowest denigrating, and I can't stand S Palin. It must have been the most boring 3 days for a 10 year old. His father has not seemed to have much to do with him, and he probably doesn't even know his father . If when kids grow up and inset themselves in the political process, like Ivanka, Jared, Thing 1 and Thing 2, it is then a different story . They have jumped in the fray, and all is fair Gane.

cyclonefence

(4,483 posts)
211. I agree with you
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 11:33 AM
Jan 2017

for a multitude of reasons, number one being that it is unkind and impolite to mention a person's (possible) disability until you have been told by that person or her parents that she is disabled. For argument's sake, say the child does have autism. Does anyone really think that parents with high visibility and plenty of money wouldn't be dealing with it as they see fit? If a First Lady wants to take on a cause, that's up to her. We can suggest causes, sure, but not causes we think she should espouse because we think the cause affects her family, when she has not indicated that it does.

Number two being that labeling a kid without any--repeat *any* access to medical or psychological information--with a serious disorder (which the mother has denied he has) just because the kid is in the public spotlight is beyond unkind and impolite--it's unfeeling, bullying and cruel.

And yes, I think Barron is off-limits. Tiffany, no, but Barron, yes.

 

NoGoodNamesLeft

(2,056 posts)
217. Thank you
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 11:43 AM
Jan 2017

My child was diagnosed with more than one disability around the same age. It was difficult enough for her to understand and adjust to without everyone else knowing. I saw her self esteem go from very high and her being a happy child to falling apart...even with everything being private. She eventually shared her disabilities with friends and classmates...on HER terms, when SHE was ready. There has still been bullying and immense pain, including additional depression and anxiety because of those disabilities.

That poor kid is going to deal with enough simply because of who his father is and the BS he will be exposed to. The LAST thing he needs is to search his name online and read some of the bullshit posted about him. Until people have been scared that your own child will end their life over bullying you don't understand. I've been there and I will NOT sit back and watch this nonsense without speaking up.

The people on this thread who think it's OK to say shit about Barron Trump are disgusting and if they said this shit around me in person I'd punch them right in their big, obnoxious, hateful mouths. Kids are OFF LIMITS, no exceptions.

cyclonefence

(4,483 posts)
223. I also have a daughter with a disability
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 12:04 PM
Jan 2017

and ironically I have the opposite problem. My child looks perfect; she is beautiful and smiling and walks well. People who don't know her speak to her and are very surprised when they get babble and drool back.

I'm very sorry that your daughter and your family had to go through this.

What astounds me about people posting shit about Barron is the same thing that astounded me by the people I know when our daughter's disability was first diagnosed. Do people not understand that we all are doing the very best we can for our kids? That we know far more about our child and her disability than they do? That we seek out the best medical guidance for how to treat our child? Given the Trumps' resources it's insane to suggest that if their son had a disability they wouldn't do anything about it. And that what they do or do not do about their minor child's health is none of our fucking business.

 

NoGoodNamesLeft

(2,056 posts)
230. I agree
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 12:28 PM
Jan 2017

My daughter's disabilities are not obvious. By that I mean that even though she has symptoms that are very obvious, most people don't realize she cannot help those symptoms. A couple of relatives actually implied to her that they didn't think she had the things she was diagnosed with. That was very hurtful because it made her feel ashamed and confused and it undermined me as her parent.

I'm really shocked the way some people think it's OK to gossip and speculate about a child. It's not like Trump hasn't given everyone plenty of things to attack him over. The boys mom says he doesn't have autism. She would know best. Anything he does or does not have has absolutely no bearing on my life or anything of importance to this country.

I really wish the admins would ban this subject once and for all. It's not OK and it makes the site look very bad for allowing it.

Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
252. Do not make assumptions that he is not.
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 05:27 PM
Jan 2017

I am quite serious about this.

I understand that you have a child with a disability. I have a VERY close friend who has met Barron on a couple occasions.

Said friend has a Trump grandchild in his class.

I ask you to please not dismiss that Barron may very be autistic.

My nephew is autistic. Autism should not be dismissed.

 

NoGoodNamesLeft

(2,056 posts)
253. His mother, through her attorney officially stated he is NOT
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 06:05 PM
Jan 2017

So, unless you are a licensed medical professional who has examined him and have access to his medical history then you are NOT qualified to diagnose anyone.

The family says he is NOT autistic, so unless someone provides PROOF that he is then the subject is closed. Barron is NOT autistic.

I don't give a rat's ass what friend of a friend of a friend knows whose grandchild in passing.

Leave the kid ALONE.

Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
255. How about you providing proof, I stated truth.
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 07:11 PM
Jan 2017

and you are just being a really mean person.

What I know, I will not present because I respect the people I know.

I diagnosed nothing. I also never said my friend was a friend, so chill out and stop being a jerk.

We agree, leave the kid alone. Why do you think its ok to talk to me is such a shitty manner?

 

NoGoodNamesLeft

(2,056 posts)
259. Here is the statement by Melania's lawyer on this topic
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 10:35 PM
Jan 2017

This law firm represents First Lady-elect Melania Trump and her 10-year-old son, Barron Trump. A video was posted at YouTube recently speculating that Barron might be autistic. He is not. The video includes the hashtag “StopTheBullying” but yet the video itself is bullying by making false statements and speculation about a 10-year old boy for the purpose of harassing him and his parents. The online bullying of children, including Barron Trump, should end now.


http://www.cosmopolitan.com/politics/a8383175/melania-trump-barron-trump-video-lawsuit/


Mean people spread gossip about 10 year old children.

I'm defending an innocent child from bullying. Gossiping IS bullying. Stop it. The family has made an official statement that Barron is not autistic so stop insisting that he is...unless you provide a medical license and proof you are his doctor.

Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
261. So am I.
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 12:17 AM
Jan 2017

Get it straight and STOP accusing me of something I never said.

Maybe you should go back and read what I wrote and sit down.

Seriously, sit down.



 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
12. I haven't seen anyone attacking Barron. And those who speculated whether he is autistic
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 09:29 PM
Jan 2017

are not attacking him.

Only an assh*le would think being autistic was bad.

 

NoGoodNamesLeft

(2,056 posts)
31. Yes, they are...they are spreading fake stories and rumors
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 09:41 PM
Jan 2017

That are extremely HURTFUL to a child. My child was about his age when diagnosed with several disabilities. She immediately became depressed, got picked on, her self esteem went into the toilet and she has gone through periods of being suicidal over the past 7 years.

Fucking leave the kid ALONE....NOW.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
33. Nonsense. People with autistic children speculating isn't spreading fake news.
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 09:42 PM
Jan 2017

You are entitled to your opinion as are the other parents I've seen commenting in a few places. NONE of whom are 'attacking' Barron.

 

NoGoodNamesLeft

(2,056 posts)
41. His mother is suing over the rumor and says he does NOT have autism
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 09:46 PM
Jan 2017

There, mystery solved. Now you can stop with the armchair diagnosing of people you don't even know.

 

NoGoodNamesLeft

(2,056 posts)
93. Why do you feel compelled to go after a child after being asked by his mother to stop?
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 10:29 PM
Jan 2017

What did a 10 year old child do to you?

ANYONE who refuses to leave a child alone is just as bad as Trump.

 

LaydeeBug

(10,291 posts)
98. Stop getting ahead of yourself...I am not going after a 10 year old
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 10:34 PM
Jan 2017

I am asking the relevant question as to whether he is or is not a special needs child. If he is, I do feel that we have a right to know.

Actually, if he isn't, I feel the same way.

But Mama's a liar, and we both know it, so...

 

NoGoodNamesLeft

(2,056 posts)
108. If your beef is with the parents then talk about the parents
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 10:42 PM
Jan 2017

And stop bringing an innocent child into it. He's not your business.

 

LaydeeBug

(10,291 posts)
146. as long as you practice what you preach about arm cahir diagnosing
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 11:59 PM
Jan 2017

It is *dangerous* for you to imply that nothing is wrong with him.

please stop it

 

NoGoodNamesLeft

(2,056 posts)
203. Please provide proof of your medical degree and that Barron is your patient
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 11:24 AM
Jan 2017

Otherwise you are in no position to know anything about his medical history and need to stfu.

 

NoGoodNamesLeft

(2,056 posts)
204. I don't understand why an adult is so obsessed with this child
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 11:25 AM
Jan 2017

They need to just let it go and leave him alone.

Hekate

(90,189 posts)
236. One wonders. We also have a contingent of DUers who wanted the Obama girls to go to public school
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 01:02 PM
Jan 2017

...in D.C., security be damned. They were capable of going on self-righteously for days about it. (In the end it turned out they were among those who hated everything about President Obama anyway, because he threw us all under the bus. Go figure.)

 

NoGoodNamesLeft

(2,056 posts)
241. That's nuts
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 01:17 PM
Jan 2017

It seems that I see that kind of stuff coming from people who don't have children. Sometimes this place really makes me shake my head as much as I shake it from stuff I see on the other side, lol.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
55. I believe he is autistic and my child is autistic
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 09:56 PM
Jan 2017

I see nothing wrong wth it. My daughter is wonderful and funny. I'm sure Barron is awesome as well.

 

HoneyBadger

(2,297 posts)
134. And we can agree that it would be fine to go after an adult the same way
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 11:44 PM
Jan 2017

SNL used to go after the blind governor of NY for his disability. It had nothing to do with his ability to work. He was a person of color and a great example. I am sure that blind people were offended. But he was an adult, so was fine.

But even SNL would never go after a blind kid.


https://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=XKNNVVJM6aQ

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
151. Wow. One whole example. An OP for one whole example. That was deleted.
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 12:11 AM
Jan 2017

Because apparently the person who wrote it thought better of it.

jonno99

(2,620 posts)
171. You asked for an example - I gave you one. Why loose your sarcasm on me? If you
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 01:34 AM
Jan 2017

weren't really interested - don't ask the question.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
198. Because the rightwing is making this into a big deal and you have the nerve
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 11:16 AM
Jan 2017

to pretend they have a valid point by dredging up a singular example. That was deleted.

MichMary

(1,714 posts)
224. I think it's a big deal
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 12:08 PM
Jan 2017

To imply, even sarcastically, that someone is as unbalanced/unpredictable/violent as the Columbine killers is abhorrent. Do you think he, or his friends, didn't get wind of that tweet?

Deleting stupid shit after it's been blasted all over the planet isn't good enough. People need to think BEFORE they do stupid shit.

jonno99

(2,620 posts)
235. Perhaps if (like me) you had a kid of similar age with emotional issues you'd feel differently.
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 01:01 PM
Jan 2017

Why you'd make excuses for this sort of abhorrent behavior - even a singular event - I find troubling.

JI7

(89,172 posts)
14. yes he should be, but none of it is near as ugly as the attacks on Chelsea Clinton so they are
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 09:30 PM
Jan 2017

hypocrites and trying to make it as if it 's some huge thing that is happening when that is not the case.

Sunny05

(865 posts)
84. That doesn't surprise me.
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 10:14 PM
Jan 2017

And one complaint I've seen (about ppl supposedly being negative toward this child) seemed to be accusing those who speak up for others' rights but not caring about Barron's rights. I know of NO such cases.

But my other cmment somewhere in this thread is in context of actual negatives said about him -- if, in fact, those things have been said.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
16. BTW, Barron has a Facebook page with racist crap on it. He's too young to have a Facebook
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 09:31 PM
Jan 2017

page. His own father or Bannon is using him for political reasons. Which is disgusting.

 

NoGoodNamesLeft

(2,056 posts)
35. Really? Because no one ever put up a fake facebook page to bully/impersonate anyone else
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 09:42 PM
Jan 2017

Leave.him.alone

 

NoGoodNamesLeft

(2,056 posts)
49. Oh bullshit, you are spreading lies right here
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 09:52 PM
Jan 2017

Implying that he created a facebook page with hate posts and insinuating he's autistic. Why do you even need to mention him? What the hell did that kid do to you?

Just stop talking about him and focus on something that doesn't make you look like a jerk.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
51. I didn't imply he created a facebook page nor did I insinuate he's autistic. I HAVE seen righwingers
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 09:53 PM
Jan 2017

complaining about Barron getting attacked when I haven't seen any of it.

The OP is incredibly vague. And the OP'er has curiously disappeared.

And please stop mischaracterizing what I post here.

Open your eyes, the OP'er posts vague rightwing bullsh*t about Democrats attacking Barron and then leaves.

Kingofalldems

(38,359 posts)
91. Not one poster here has crticized Baron Trump, yeoman6987.
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 10:26 PM
Jan 2017

And the poster you responded to didn't either. So what the hell are you talking about? Don't like your insinuation.

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
20. Off limits to criticism? Of course. What would one criticize?
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 09:34 PM
Jan 2017

His choice of lunch box or his favorite super hero?

People need to get a life. Attacking children is for losers.

 

NoGoodNamesLeft

(2,056 posts)
21. Teasing, picking on, making fun of or targeting a 10 year old is bullying, period.
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 09:35 PM
Jan 2017

The fact that any adults even consider in engaging in such disgusting behavior puts them on the same level as Trump, imo.

I think the site should not only make that kind of thing off limits, but also a ban-worthy offense.

Hekate

(90,189 posts)
174. OTOH, we can control what is and is not acceptable in this community.
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 02:49 AM
Jan 2017

Community standard at DU is to leave the kids of politicians alone until they are adults. I am glad for that.

As for Barron's health, someone here actually said we have the right to know. We have no such right. He and his mother have the right to privacy.

However, I have appreciated the comments by DUers who have kids on the autism spectrum, but only because it is helping to provide some possible context for his affect and Melania's ultra-protective stance regarding keeping him in a familiar setting. If the speculations are true, imagine the life she leads with Barron's dad the "ubermensch."

DinahMoeHum

(21,737 posts)
24. Barron, yes. His older siblings, OTOH, are fair game.
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 09:37 PM
Jan 2017

Last edited Mon Jan 23, 2017, 11:39 AM - Edit history (2)

Barron is a minor; he's underaged.

Johnny2X2X

(18,731 posts)
25. He's 10
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 09:37 PM
Jan 2017

He's 10 now. Off limits. But when Trump children turn 12 they each hunt and kill their own unarmed homeless minority, after that he's said game.

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
28. Hell, yes.
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 09:39 PM
Jan 2017

Is there REALLY any controversy about this?

Leave the poor kid alone. He may be the only member of that frightening family I actually feel sorry for.

no_hypocrisy

(45,770 posts)
30. IMO Barron is going to need a lot of help before he's an adult by sheer virtue of growing up Trump.
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 09:40 PM
Jan 2017

I'm not going to add to his misery even vicariously.

redstatebluegirl

(12,264 posts)
34. Yes he should be.
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 09:42 PM
Jan 2017

He didn't ask for any of this. If he is autistic, we need to give him some extra space. I think all of the past first children would agree with that. Now the adult children who are involved in their father's administration are fair game. They put themselves in the game.

sharp_stick

(14,400 posts)
37. My general reply
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 09:43 PM
Jan 2017

when it comes to kids and what happened before is that I'm better than that.

I won't mock kids, no matter who's spawn they are. They all have potential to be better than the scumbags that created them.

 

NoGoodNamesLeft

(2,056 posts)
39. The admins also need to ban people from speculating
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 09:44 PM
Jan 2017

about whether or not any children have any disabilities. That's fake concern used as a way to act like they are not attacking/bullying him.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
47. You are entitled to your opinion. But you're not a board nanny. I've seen a few parents w/autistic
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 09:51 PM
Jan 2017

kids discussing the possibility in an entirely empathetic, caring way. For you to label what other parents with autistic kids express as "fake concern" is completely inappropriate.

And having Kennedy with his bogus "vaccines cause autism" go and visit Trump is sort of curious.

You need to understand that having a disability or being on the spectrum isn't bad nor a character defect.

Furthermore, Trump's Cabinet picks and his policies will hurt autistic children in the near future.

 

NoGoodNamesLeft

(2,056 posts)
60. You have every right to discuss your own child but you have NO right
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 09:58 PM
Jan 2017

to speculate about an innocent 10 year old child whose mother has publicly stated the kid is NOT autistic and that he is being bullied over the damn ignorant rumors.

Again...WHY do you feel compelled to talk about a 10 year old child when his mother has publicly requested to STOP? You know it is UNWELCOME yet you persist. Why? What are you getting from this? Why do you believe it is OK to spread lies and rumors that are hurtful to an innocent child?

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
69. I'm not talking about a 10 year old child. Stop saying I am. And if you were astute
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 10:00 PM
Jan 2017

you'd start wondering why the OP'er posts this rightwing meme with no proof it's actually happening to any significant degree.

 

NoGoodNamesLeft

(2,056 posts)
95. You are talking about Barron Trump, who is 10
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 10:32 PM
Jan 2017

There is plenty of things to go after Trump for without using his child. You don't even need to mention him yet you persist. Why? Why can't you just keep that little boy out of it?

Leave the kid alone.

 

LaydeeBug

(10,291 posts)
103. No, KittyWampus is talking about how this meme is being spread as to agitate
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 10:39 PM
Jan 2017

because there is no real evidence that anyone is really asking about Barron Trump being special needs.

At least, not really from our side, anyway.

Much like black bloc agitators, this shit stirring is what some on the right resort to try and put us on the defensive.

*MY* position is that I have a right to know. He is now the First Son of the USA. It's OUR business now. And not *just* because I have a right ot know either, but because this could be genetic, and a telling precursor to our President's health.





 

LaydeeBug

(10,291 posts)
113. Once again....WRONG
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 10:46 PM
Jan 2017

Last edited Sun Jan 22, 2017, 11:45 PM - Edit history (1)

He is the 1st child of the USA and he is indeed our business now.

NanceGreggs

(27,813 posts)
165. No, he is NOT "the first child of the USA".
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 12:46 AM
Jan 2017

And NO, he is not any of your business.

By virtue of what law does a 10-year-old lose his right to privacy? By virtue of what law do the children of presidents and their spouses cease to be in the sole care/control of their parents and become YOUR business, or the business of the country?

Barron Trump is not an heir to the presidency, nor any other public office. The US is is not a medieval kingdom where the welfare of a future monarch is of concern to the masses because he is expected to ascend to the throne.

Your insistence that you have a RIGHT to know anything about him is, quite frankly, rather disturbing.

MichMary

(1,714 posts)
226. How much personal stuff
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 12:14 PM
Jan 2017

about Malia and Sasha Obama was "our business?" Did we have a "right to know" when they got their first periods? Or anything else?? Of course not!

This kid didn't ask for any of this, and has no choice about being part of it.

Stop speculating. Leave him alone.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
64. Nice of you to check in on your rightwing meme thread. Instead of vague insinuations
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 09:58 PM
Jan 2017

about how Democrats are attacking Barron, how about posting a few actual examples.

Fritz Walter

(4,281 posts)
75. The Change.org petition is easily searchable
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 10:06 PM
Jan 2017

No need to post a link here. (It was a right wing acquaintance who posted it on FB; I just scrolled by without liking or commenting).

The meme was drawing considerable heat from others without my help, so I likewise ignored it.

Glad to see such solidarity on a moral high ground here.

"When they go low..."

Greybnk48

(10,147 posts)
65. It's a famous book from the 60's
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 09:59 PM
Jan 2017

about a girl who has sex with her daddy, among others. In Candy's defense, she has sex with her dad by accident. It's actually really funny, or I used to think so. It would probably offend me now, but I hope not.

Raine

(30,540 posts)
44. It was wrong to do it to Chelsea, Sacha & Malia and it's wrong to do it to Barron
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 09:48 PM
Jan 2017

I know their side probably deserves it but the little boy doesn't and I myself can't and won't do it. The adult animal murderers Don Jr. & Eric are fair game though IMO.

Raine

(30,540 posts)
58. Yes, absolutely. I meant to mention her too and so is Tiffany if she puts herself out there. nt
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 09:56 PM
Jan 2017

Ilsa

(61,675 posts)
50. Doing it is wrong. He doesn't need society helping him turn into a sociopath.
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 09:52 PM
Jan 2017

If he becomes one, let it be his parents' fault.

Adelante

(28,394 posts)
57. He's a child
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 09:56 PM
Jan 2017

Why any adult would want to pick on a child is something I don't understand and would never condone.

HipChick

(25,485 posts)
59. Barron will be just fine regardless..
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 09:57 PM
Jan 2017

as Dems, we have plenty other issues that we should be worrying about..this is why we stay losing..

manicraven

(901 posts)
62. Minor children should be off limits. They are innocent and have no control, can't vote, have
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 09:58 PM
Jan 2017

limited (if any) influence, and can't help who they were born to, etc. Adult children who are meddling are not off limits.

 

LaydeeBug

(10,291 posts)
66. Only that if he has a mental incapacity, it could be a teaching moment
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 09:59 PM
Jan 2017

and I sort of feel like I have a right to know

NanceGreggs

(27,813 posts)
161. No, he is NOT your public figure.
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 12:32 AM
Jan 2017

He is a minor, and the child of his parents. Your declaration that a 10-year-old child is somehow a public figure is beyond ludicrous.

Since when is any child a "public figure" by virtue of who their parents are? You don't have any right whatsoever to know anything about this child - and I am utterly astounded that anyone would make such an argument.

True Dough

(17,090 posts)
179. Well stated!
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 03:12 AM
Jan 2017

There are lines of civility that have to be drawn. Unfortunately a few DUers are so hell bent on Trump's downfall that they have convinced themselves that anything or anyone is fair game. This argument that a 10 year old is fair game because he's a public figure is beyond the pale.

 

NoGoodNamesLeft

(2,056 posts)
209. You are 100% right, period
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 11:30 AM
Jan 2017

It's absolutely disgusting the way a few people on this site feel so compelled to go after a little kid. They should worry about their own issues and leave that kid alone.

NanceGreggs

(27,813 posts)
184. Here's a "teaching moment" for you ...
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 04:08 AM
Jan 2017

YOU are not qualified to decide whether a 10-yr-old child has a "mental incapacity", nor do you have any right to know.

This is a human being we're discussing here - a minor child; he is NOT your guinea pig to be used to educate you or anyone else about anything.

You "sort of feel like you have a right to know"? To know exactly WHAT, and on what basis? Is Barron Trump about to dictate foreign policy, or influence domestic legislation? If not, you have NO BUSINESS knowing anything about him.

Jesus Hussein Christ - I can't believe this is actually being discussed in terms of "I have a right to know" where a ten-year-old child is at - mentally, emotionally, intellectually - because it might serve as a "teaching moment".

If you are in need of a "teaching moment", you might want to educate yourself as to where your "rights" end and where someone else's right to privacy begins.

TDale313

(7,820 posts)
186. No. You don't have a right to know.
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 04:18 AM
Jan 2017

And this is a child who should be off limits. And frankly I find your attitude all kinds of fucked up. Bullying is not ok because he happens to be related to an asshole.

 

NoGoodNamesLeft

(2,056 posts)
205. What the bloody hell is wrong with you?
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 11:27 AM
Jan 2017

You have ZERO rights to know ANYTHING about this child.

Leave him the fuck alone.

doc03

(35,143 posts)
67. Even though Republicans pick on Democrats kids I will not
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 09:59 PM
Jan 2017

say anything about Barron. Now Uday and Kusay are fair game.

LeftInTX

(24,541 posts)
68. We've got bigger fish to fry
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 10:00 PM
Jan 2017

Going after Barron is a waste of time.

If Trump is being thin skinned about others going after Barron, then that is his issue.

Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

Response to Fritz Walter (Original post)

trixie2

(905 posts)
143. I have to disagree with you big time
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 11:57 PM
Jan 2017

I won't even address your opinion of a child.

Children in general will often grow to believe what they are taught at home but some go against the grain and think for themselves. How many people on this board were brought up in a Republican household and made a sharp turn to the left? On the other side of the coin, how many children of Democrats, like Elisabeth Hesselbeck, made a sharp right turn?

I work with kids and would never dream to peg any kid at an early age.

brettdale

(12,331 posts)
175. Children should be left alone
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 02:50 AM
Jan 2017

Heres hoping he wont grow up to be like his adult brothers and sisters or his dad.

Sunny05

(865 posts)
76. If a minor, esp. that young,
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 10:08 PM
Jan 2017

then off limits. I do not know exactly what has been said about the boy. Have only seen references to negative comments about him. But a child is a child.

I have no idea what the boy's views and behaviors are or whether he -- or, instead, fans -- has/have racist things on FB ... and so forth. But for the sake of argument, even if he does (and he may not, but if), those words/behaviors reflect the adults around him.

Related to that ... Much research exists on the teen brain and how it is still forming into one's twenties. So, if he is just 10 or 11, even, then his even-younger impressionable brain has quite a ways to go.

And if, in the past, some repubs didn't care about negatives flung at Amy Carter, Chelsea Clinton, Sasha Obama, or Malia Obama, it shouldn't be yet another child pay the price.

Missn-Hitch

(1,383 posts)
77. Umm, the 10 year old is posting "groups of angry black men" memes. You know,
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 10:09 PM
Jan 2017

the "Do you think rioters and looters should lose their government assistance?" kind.

LeftInTX

(24,541 posts)
94. Barron appears to have 2 FB pages
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 10:29 PM
Jan 2017
https://www.facebook.com/IAmBarronTrump/

https://www.facebook.com/Barron-Trump-437592333101930/

The I Am Barron Trump looks like it is probably either done by him or a family publicist. It is pretty tame. Just family pictures and "proud of my family" stuff. It is given the status "public figure" on FB. (As a parent, I would not allow this, even though I don't see anything inappropriate on that page)


The other one, put out by a "Baron Trump Fan Club" is very political and full of right wing stuff.

Missn-Hitch

(1,383 posts)
122. I am sure they could pull the plug on the "fan" one. It's weird if they allow it to remain up.
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 11:08 PM
Jan 2017

Cheers.

regnaD kciN

(26,035 posts)
142. If it's his "fan club," it's unlikely to be him...
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 11:56 PM
Jan 2017

...although I would be more suspicious if it was his dad's "fan club."

LeftInTX

(24,541 posts)
150. Yeah, they didn't even spell his name right on part of the fan club page's description
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 12:10 AM
Jan 2017
https://www.facebook.com/Barron-Trump-437592333101930/about/

On the About section they identify themselves as:
Baron Trump Fan Club

Because of this misspell, I don't think they are closely aligned with the Trump family.
 

NoGoodNamesLeft

(2,056 posts)
97. OMG...trolls create fake social media accounts to impersonate famous people all the time
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 10:34 PM
Jan 2017

I can't believe people are so gullible to actually believe this crap.

Stop spreading lies. We see enough of that from Trump's team. Don't pull a Trump.

trixie2

(905 posts)
148. Facebook has an age limit of 13
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 12:04 AM
Jan 2017

My nephew posted at 10 and had his account turned off at Facebook, rightly so. You know darn well they "know" who this child is.

My advice: Get the heck off of Facebook, it is nothing but garbage anyways. Why do Facebook people always believe everything on it?

pnwest

(3,265 posts)
78. This would be one of the time that we SHOULD go high when they went low. That's how we (should) roll
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 10:11 PM
Jan 2017

Kid didn't ask for any of this. Whether he's challenged or not is irrelevant, he didn't ask to be thrust into the spotlight. The older children of the corn however....well, that's a whole 'nother animal! Fair game, indeed!

briv1016

(1,570 posts)
80. I think many of us can sympathize with coming from a crazy family.
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 10:13 PM
Jan 2017

Until he makes a public statement or does something malicious, we should give him the benefit of the doubt. If anything, he's the one person in the Trump clan that has a chance of growing up to be a decent person.

ETA: I don't know enough about Tiffany to state that she is not a decent person. Until she makes herself a public figure, she is also off limits.

81. Yes, off limits. Not only because we're talking
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 10:13 PM
Jan 2017

about a child (which is more than reason enough), but because we're not talking about a public figure (which means they aren't even politically interesting). I feel the same way about Mrs Trump - I have no interest in anything she does, says or wears.

nycbos

(6,032 posts)
83. He is 10 years old.
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 10:13 PM
Jan 2017

He is absolutely off limits. And I will speak out against anything that goes after him.


Ivanka, Jared, Eric, and Donald Jr are fair game because they are

1. Grownup

2. Part of their Dad's/Father-In-Laws team and are part of the nepotism.

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
86. I say 17 and under is off limits. Yes, I know 16 and 17 they
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 10:16 PM
Jan 2017

are closer to adult but being a teenager about to get out on your own is very tough. When they are old enough to vote then they are old enough to praise or criticize but off limits until then.

carpetbagger

(4,383 posts)
92. What, the other kids don't provide enough for fodder?
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 10:27 PM
Jan 2017

Beavis and Butthead, Uday and Qusay. Besides decency, that's my argument.

 

NoGoodNamesLeft

(2,056 posts)
106. Apparently not...some on here would rather bully a 10 year old
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 10:41 PM
Jan 2017

Passing off opinions as if they are facts is nothing more than rumor mongering. It's disgusting.

They are only doing it because they know the best way to hurt a parent is by attacking their child. They are attacking Barron under the guise of concern and that's the same crap Trump would pull. It's a sad day when people on this site resort to behaving like someone they claim to hate.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
105. No one will give a shit what I think
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 10:40 PM
Jan 2017

But he really should be in the protective custody of child services. His father called him a retard for chriss sakes!

frogmarch

(12,144 posts)
121. Wonkette talked about it.
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 11:07 PM
Jan 2017
http://wonkette.com/609520/tom-arnold-needs-to-release-donald-trumps-whitey-tape-right-the-hell-now

(snip)

“When the people sent it to me, it was funny,” Arnold said. “Hundreds of people have seen these. It was sort of a Christmas video they put together. He wasn’t going to be president of the United States. It was him sitting in that chair saying the N-word, saying the C-word, calling his son a retard, just being so mean to his own children. ‘Oh, this is so funny, this is this guy.’


(snip)

Also too, sidenote, which son did he call a “retard”? One of the older goons, or the younger boy Rosie O’Donnell got in trouble for suggesting is autistic? We are just curious whether Donald Trump is simply a total shit, or a total shit who is also a cruel parent.


 

HoneyBadger

(2,297 posts)
129. You know how I can tell that you have not raised a teen
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 11:34 PM
Jan 2017

They call parents a lot worse than that. Their brains are not fully developed until about 25, at which time they become reasonable adults. Until then, things can and will get heated on both sides.

 

NoGoodNamesLeft

(2,056 posts)
212. Is that your excuse for harping on an innocent child?
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 11:34 AM
Jan 2017

Trump says mean things so you can go after his kid too?

Sick.

 

NoGoodNamesLeft

(2,056 posts)
219. You are defending speculating about him. Speculating is gossiping. Gossiping is bullying
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 11:46 AM
Jan 2017

By defending speculating you are defending bullying.

Bullying is attacking.

Leave him alone.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
232. Speculation and gossip are two wholly different words with two wholly different meanings.
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 12:34 PM
Jan 2017

Speculation and gossip are two wholly different words with two wholly different meanings... pretending otherwise doesn't make it so. That applies as well to the gossip and bullying.

Dictionaries are a great investment. Words do not mean what is most convenient to a shallow or undisciplined mind looking only to validate a bias.

 

NoGoodNamesLeft

(2,056 posts)
234. Fair enough...they are just gossiping
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 12:59 PM
Jan 2017

People speculate about financial markets.

They gossip about people.

This talking about a 10 year old is gossip since it better fits that definition. Thanks for helping to clarify this!

gos·sip
ˈɡäsəp/
noun
1.
casual or unconstrained conversation or reports about other people, typically involving details that are not confirmed as being true.
"he became the subject of much local gossip"
synonyms: rumor(s), tittle-tattle, whispers, canards, tidbits; More
verb
1.
engage in gossip.
"they would start gossiping about her as soon as she left"
synonyms: spread rumors, spread gossip, talk, whisper, tell tales, tittle-tattle, tattle; informaldish the dirt
"she gossiped about Dean's wife"

Fritz Walter

(4,281 posts)
111. WOW! And thanks to all!!
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 10:44 PM
Jan 2017

This has been a very reassuring discussion, and I'm very encouraged that the DU community rises to a higher standard than what flows on Facebook and other social media platforms.

Stay strong. We're in this fight against injustice -- on many levels -- for the long haul.

bhikkhu

(10,708 posts)
116. I'd say yes, off limits
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 10:48 PM
Jan 2017

What would be the point? I don't see much need to criticise Melania either - from her words that I have seen, she seems to be ok. When we have such a large and offensive target of a president, all the real issues, and every ridiculous thing he says and does, why bother with people who haven't done anything bad, and why target kids?

A-Schwarzenegger

(15,596 posts)
118. It's a no-brainer, but man I would love to know
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 10:53 PM
Jan 2017

what's going on in that kid's head. It looks like it might
be interesting. He sure is taking in information. He may be the
black sheep for all we know.

D_Master81

(1,822 posts)
119. As a Parent
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 10:56 PM
Jan 2017

If you're a grown adult making fun of a child you're a P.O.S. even if his father is Donald Trump

MrPurple

(985 posts)
120. Actually, surprised Trump hasn't tried to exploit him so far
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 11:03 PM
Jan 2017

It's the ONLY remotely not antichrist-like thing I can say about Trump, but given that Barron appears to have some special needs issues, I'm surprised that he didn't to a humanizing Barbara Walters type interview with Barron & Melania talking about it before the election.

It's a no brainer that you leave a 10 year old kid alone. But, I wouldn't be surprised if Bannon doesn't stage someone attacking him to run stories about the inhuman evil liberals, probably at the height of Trump being under scrutiny for something.

regnaD kciN

(26,035 posts)
135. Off limits, unless/until he decides to make it otherwise...
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 11:48 PM
Jan 2017

...which is highly unlikely at age 10, but if, say, four years from now, he's trotted out before the press to spread misinformation about his father's opponents, then he loses any immunity.

kristndem

(389 posts)
137. Yes
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 11:52 PM
Jan 2017

The children do not choose it, and should be protected. Barron is off limits. We are better than that!

forgotmylogin

(7,496 posts)
153. Until Barron takes a cabinet position...
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 12:17 AM
Jan 2017

he deserves the respect you'd show anyone's impressionable children.

"We go high." --Michelle Obama

Vogon_Glory

(9,084 posts)
155. He ought to be off-limits
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 12:20 AM
Jan 2017

Young Barron ought to remain off-limits, no matter how much we may detest his papa.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
158. I definitely think a 10 year old child is off limits
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 12:26 AM
Jan 2017

Barron has done nothing wrong; he was born to abominable parents but that's not his fault. All young children should be protected, including children of politicians. Once they grow up and get involved with politics and business (Donny, Eric and Ivanka) they're fair game.

Caliman73

(11,690 posts)
159. We have to think of it this way...
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 12:30 AM
Jan 2017

Melania chose her path. Ivanka, and the moron brothers are ass deep (and by ass I mean their heads) in daddy's businesses and corruption.

Barron is 10. He has no self agency. He cannot choose which family he belongs to and what his father and half-siblings do. He will most likely grow up to be not so great a person, unless he is able to separate from his father's influence, but for now he is as much a victim as any other child and should be off limits.

underpants

(182,271 posts)
160. Can I add something - THEY are promoting him a lot. I see it all over FB
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 12:32 AM
Jan 2017

I say he's off limits. They apparently don't. He has his own FB page and I've seen it shared several times today. They also are playing victim about "attacks" on him. I expect to hear him mentioned when around RW'ers.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
172. Yup, I just posted a thread about this. They're claiming Dems are attacking him
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 01:36 AM
Jan 2017

to drum up sympathy for Trump.

 

CaliforniaLove

(27 posts)
163. Attacking a 10 year old makes you look terrible.
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 12:45 AM
Jan 2017

Hell, I wouldn't even go after Melania or anybody else.

Who cares about his family? Don't give them celebrity status.

LenaBaby61

(6,965 posts)
167. Barron's one lucky little boy, because HE has health care...
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 01:05 AM
Jan 2017

Meanwhile, his treasonous, racist, sexist, illegitimate president POS, putin-loving daddy doesn't give one damn about our kids having it, and children WILL end up dying.

Yep, Barron is one lucky little boy, and I WILL bring up how lucky HE IS vs the other 10 year old children who won't even be allowed to have just basic health care.

Other people's kids are going to die. Barron won't. His daddy will make sure Barron has the best health care.

TygrBright

(20,733 posts)
168. I certainly hope so. "Tit for tat" is their tactic, not ours.
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 01:09 AM
Jan 2017

I'd prefer to make America kind again.

And that would include not involving young children in the opprobrium incurred by their parents.

firmly,
Bright

Mike Nelson

(9,903 posts)
181. Yes...
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 03:36 AM
Jan 2017

...he should be off limits. I suspect Baron will grow up to be like the others, but there is always a chance he won't - and he acts more mature than his father. The other daughter, too - as long as she stays out of the Trump mess.

Rollo

(2,559 posts)
183. I agree that Barron should be off limits...
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 03:53 AM
Jan 2017

However he has seemed rather unhappy to be on stage with his Dad at times.

Perhaps it's only the business of Child Protective Services.

jmowreader

(50,447 posts)
185. Look at it this way
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 04:12 AM
Jan 2017

It's the Trump family, not the Romanoff family, and this isn't the Bible: we don't punish children for the sins of their fathers and siblings.

Besides, any vitriol you might have wasted on Barron can be put to better use attacking his money-grubbing father, sister and brothers.

littlemissmartypants

(22,417 posts)
187. It's within your right to free speech
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 04:39 AM
Jan 2017

To insult or berate any person you like but keep in mind it reveals more about your character than any thing else. It's a deep personal choice.

Every man must decide whether he will walk in the light of creative altruism or in the darkness of destructive selfishness. – Martin Luther King, Jr.

Thanks for the post Fritz Walter.

Lady_Chat

(561 posts)
192. Chelsea Clinton has come out in defense of Barron,
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 06:38 AM
Jan 2017

And if anyone would know how comments could hurt a child, it would be Chelsea...Rush Limbaugh once called her a "dog", another politician said she looked like "she got hit in the face by a bag of wooden nickels", a conservative publication once called for her death (yes, when she was a child) to end the "Clinton line", she has had people question who her "real father" is, even that Vince Foster was killed because he "really knew", and other suggestions were made in "jest" of other unattractive people being her real father. It was cruel and just sick.

The only thing I have heard about Barron is, that he's autistic. That's not an insult, if true, but unfortunately for him, if it is true, he's got a father who thinks making fun of the disabled is just fine. A lot of autistic children do wave their hands around in the same way as that disabled reporter, even though they don't have the same problem.

If Barron is autistic, Trump and his wife could do a lot of good by discussing it out in the open. But I have a feeling that's the last thing they would ever do, think Trump is too proud and too ignorant, and would definitely hide it.

"Chelsea Clinton defends Barron while criticizing Donald Trump" http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/chelsea-clinton-defends-barron-criticizing-donald-trump-article-1.2953147

BainsBane

(53,001 posts)
194. What purpose does it serve to go after a child?
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 07:35 AM
Jan 2017

There is no reason aside from malice.

My view is that kid has it bad enough with that monster for a father. No amount of money can make up for that.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,079 posts)
214. Dude, at this point, I'm pretty sure you're just a troll to make DU look bad.
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 11:39 AM
Jan 2017

But go on and tell us about your AR-15 while you're at it.

nini

(16,670 posts)
238. A lot of kids have shitty parents
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 01:07 PM
Jan 2017

Don't blame the kid.

Now if he turns out to be an asshole as an adult.. that's different.

TDale313

(7,820 posts)
249. Ten.Years.Old.
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 04:38 PM
Jan 2017

Leave the fucking kid alone. He has no say in any of this. I found it disgusting when Repugs went after Chelsea and the Obama girls. The fact that his father's an asshole doesn't make attacking a kid alright.

JHB

(37,128 posts)
196. He's 10. Of course he's off limits.
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 08:05 AM
Jan 2017

Only foaming, obsessive shitbags attack a kid just because they'll use any excuse to take potshots at the target of their bile.

Unsurprisingly, all the worst examples are from the party that Kremlin Don now leads.

MineralMan

(146,189 posts)
199. Leave 10 year old kids alone, for goodness' sake.
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 11:19 AM
Jan 2017

He is not responsible for his father. He can't do anything. Just leave him alone completely.

That's what people should do. Barron is irrelevant to anything. He's just a kid.

titaniumsalute

(4,742 posts)
213. I was highly offended when people mocked
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 11:35 AM
Jan 2017

Chelsea for being an ugly kid, for making fun of Jenna and the other Bush girl, when the Obama girls were made fun of for whatever reason. Kids don't choose their parents no matter what. I feel bad for the kid. If he grows up to be an asshole like his dad...then we can rip him.

RockaFowler

(7,429 posts)
215. I felt so bad for that poor kid on Friday
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 11:41 AM
Jan 2017

Why did they put him in the back of the children?? He could have walked side by side with Tiffany and then let Eric go in the rear. He's a young child and they treated him like garbage at the event. I was so sad for him.

bluedigger

(17,077 posts)
221. As little point in mocking a 10 year old as there is in delegitimizing the Left for it.
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 11:50 AM
Jan 2017

Bad manners does not excuse bad policy.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
225. Its allowance or denial is predicated wholly on your own character
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 12:12 PM
Jan 2017

Its allowance or denial is predicated wholly on your own character and the better angels of your nature.

There is no collective rule preventing you from doing so should you choose... primacy of civility and decency are your only obstacles.

MichMary

(1,714 posts)
229. There is a BIG difference between when Amy Carter
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 12:28 PM
Jan 2017

was in the White House and now. There was no Internet in those days. You could say whatever you wanted about Amy Carter, but it wasn't blasted planet-wide.

There was Internet when Chelsea was in the WH, but it wasn't nearly what it is now.

Let's face it: In 2017 any ignoramus can make his/her opinions known all over the world within seconds. It would be really, really hard to be a child of any public figure right now.

 

ElkeH

(105 posts)
231. Children should be off limits
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 12:32 PM
Jan 2017

It does not matter that cretins have made unkind remarks about Chelsea Clinton or Sasha and Malia Obama. Mocking them was wrong and does not excuse mocking Barron Trump. Let's remember that he is only ten.

Trump's other children are a different matter, not only because they are adults, but especially because they are politically involved and an extension of the Trump administration.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
233. Kids off limits unless he's front and center and starts 'wilding' around. For a second, when they
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 12:41 PM
Jan 2017

were walking down steps I thought he was going to grab the sword off one of the guards. but he pulled his hand back fast. He seems much better behaved 'in public' than Christies kid but you never know as the days in public eyes roll on. We don't even know how the Fathers grabbie hands will behave as the days roll on.

Golden Raisin

(4,599 posts)
237. Trump's adult children are fair game.
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 01:05 PM
Jan 2017

This 10-year old boy should absolutely be left alone and off limits. Those who did not have narcissistic parents have little idea of how bad and life-altering things can be for the child.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
248. Barron is Trump property, too young to be responsible.
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 02:00 PM
Jan 2017

Assuming responsibility is taught in that family. As he grows up, he can begin to receive criticism for his own actions--but now is too early.

Rollo

(2,559 posts)
257. FREE BARRON!
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 10:17 PM
Jan 2017

Barron Trump is off limits, but his parents are not for being responsible for any lack of socialization, and the sort of emotional and physical assault The Donald is noted for.

Might be time to call Child Protective Services...

FREE BARRON!

kerry-is-my-prez

(8,133 posts)
260. I would say so, unless we think he was being mistreated and try to help him.
Mon Jan 23, 2017, 10:37 PM
Jan 2017

If we think a child is being mistreated or there should be some concerns about him, then maybe.

 

IMWITHHERR

(32 posts)
262. Yes
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 12:25 AM
Jan 2017

We really need to be the bigger person and leave him alone, especially with all of the bullying that occurs in this day in age.

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