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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI see a lot of "Leave Barron Alone" posts. What I don't see are . . . .
. . . . post attacking the little guy.
I agree that little kids like him ought to be off limits. But why all the posts?
Am I missing something? It is entirely possible I am since I don't always pay attention to the posts on DU.
exboyfil
(17,865 posts)I have been waiting for NBC to announce they have parted ways with her. Given the nature of SNL I don't see how they can go forward with her.
LAS14
(13,783 posts)A tweet by a Saturday Night Live writer last week about Barron Trump, the 10-year-old son of President Donald Trump a tweet since deleted has drawn calls for the writer to lose her job.
On Friday, after the inauguration, Katie Rich, a Chicago native and Second City alum, tweeted that Barron will be this countrys first home-school shooter. The reaction on Twitter was swift and pointed: Minor children of the president are off-limits.
Chicago Tribune.
I thought it was a funny tweet.
sarisataka
(18,792 posts)to find humor in school shootings, other believe such tragedy is a subject for jokes.
I count myself in the former group but YMMV
Bettie
(16,130 posts)I'm betting the outrage is strongest among those who enjoyed calling Chelsea Clinton all sorts of names and compared the Obama girls to monkeys.
She shouldn't lose her job, she should probably apologize for going too far. After all, in this day and age, nothing is off limits...or is that only for certain individuals?
Yo_Mama
(8,303 posts)It's also ignorant, bigoted and all the rest. The kid goes to a school, which is why his mother doesn't want to move to the WH until the school year is over.
It may be implicitly aligning autism and homocide, which is rare and unjustified.
I don't know where people's minds and hearts have gone, I really don't. There's plenty to criticize Donald Trump for - why not do that?
metroins
(2,550 posts)It isn't confirmed
And I took it as, his parents are so bad that he he might shoot them. Hence, home school shooting.
I'm not saying only took it right, but that's how I read it.
SleeplessinSoCal
(9,150 posts)Rorschach tweet?
Gothmog
(145,631 posts)okieinpain
(9,397 posts)exboyfil
(17,865 posts)will be the first Homeschool shooter. Totally out of bounds.
scscholar
(2,902 posts)I don't understand this place sometimes.
exboyfil
(17,865 posts)Any sort of speculation about him should be out of bounds. He is an innocent child caught up in a storm. I also kind of feel that way about his mom (the First Lady). If she was to make a public statement about wanting her privacy and to leave her and her son alone, I would respect it and any camera men following her around would raise my ire.
sarisataka
(18,792 posts)were vehement in their opinion that everyone in the Trump family no longer has any right to privacy and all medical information should be made public...
I'm not sure what good would be served by revealing a minor's information to everyone, regardless who his/her parents are, but HIPAA be damned, we need dirt
scscholar
(2,902 posts)since they're not covered entities according to HIPAA. When my boss was sued by his wife, he was forced to release his medical info to prove that his medical bills were reasonable given what was wrong with him. As he explained, HIPAA applies to his doctor, but not to himself.
sarisataka
(18,792 posts)of what is the public interest is served by revealing his medical information? Does it matter if he is autistic or does it bring shame to parents to have an autistic child?
jmowreader
(50,566 posts)...there's already been a homeschool shooter:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2722879/Home-schooled-boy-16-banned-soda-Internet-PG-13-movies-arrested-shooting-dead-strict-parents.html
http://www.dallasnews.com/news/frisco/2016/09/26/teen-gets-life-sentence-gunning-parents-frisco-home
In 2014, Zachary Elliot Callens, the youngest and homeschooled son of Ryan and Maria Elena Callens, late of Frisco, Texas, walked into his parents' bedroom carrying a rifle with a flashlight taped to the barrel and just blew their shit away. He had been grounded for not keeping up with his schoolwork and "general disobedience." In September 2016, he was sentenced to life in prison and will be eligible for parole in 30 years.
Atman
(31,464 posts)But people are out for blood because they recognized her name as an SNL writer.
Of course, if she was a Republican joking about Obama's kids, or Chelsea Clinton, she'd be rewarded with her own Fox "News" program. Only the Democrats eat their young like this.
exboyfil
(17,865 posts)A Republican staffer that slut shamed the Obama girls via a tweet lost her job (and rightfully so).
We regularly call for the heads of individuals who misbehave in public on this board (including inappropriate tweets). It is particularly important for SNLs credibility as far as I am concerned.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)A comedian's routine rather than a collective sentiment. The statistical aberration versus the consistent standard.
dionysus
(26,467 posts)Chelsea and the obama kids...
Hence the kerfuffle...
TexasTowelie
(112,487 posts)KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)Or if it is, it's a minuscule number potentially including some trolls.
dionysus
(26,467 posts)There were enough DUers saying the kid was autistic, that i actually thought he was, until recently...
RedWedge
(618 posts)LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)But why all the posts?
It effectively spreads the RW alt+fact of oppression against the Trumps, and give the self-righteous the opportunity to advertise how truly holy, clean and pure they in fact, are.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)abbeyco
(1,555 posts)On Friday labeling him America's first homeschooled shooter or something similar. A lot of folks across social media have taken & run with it, causing all kinds of uproar but forgetting or denying that attacks happened to the Obama girls & Chelsea Clinton. Inappropriate for sure, but a lot of selective outrage, too. Just my .02.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,125 posts)and they make you want to cry they are so ugly and horrible
We however are not and should not drop to their level.
abbeyco
(1,555 posts)All of the kids should be left alone and people should have the common sense to do that. I did have a huge list of links to rw filth that I sent out to all my outraged 'friends' who said nothing of the like had ever happened to Obama's kids or even Chelsea. Hell, I remember back when the rw pigs were so evil to Amy Carter. Just ugh....all of it.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,125 posts)not allowed in the same discussion with the left on any issue.
There is not two sides as in left and right, there is a side that works as close to truth and justice as they can and a "side" that ignores it all the time and is only concerned with their own profit.
Yo_Mama
(8,303 posts)And people have (justifiably) lost their jobs for attacking the Obama girls, as well they should. If you disagree with the parent's politics, fine, criticize those. It may hurt their children, but it is still necessary. But young children ARE off limits, and should be. They are not political actors; they haven't chosen their parents. They are small human beings caught up in a network of events beyond their control.
jmowreader
(50,566 posts)The hard right bullied Amy Carter so hard she has completely disappeared from view.
PearliePoo2
(7,768 posts)But, I easily could have missed them.
Lifelong Protester
(8,421 posts)I say leave him alone, but I haven't seen the posts attacking him.
I think a ten-year-old should be off limits. File it under "He's Got Enought Problems".
Lurks Often
(5,455 posts)there were also other people on twitter, some replying to Katie Rich that also posted equally offensive comments.
Katie Rich stated that Barron was going to be the first home schooled school shooter, others made comments that Barron had killed 100 small animals.
Children, especially minor children, of politicians and famous people should ALWAYS be off limits from personal attacks. Even adult children should be off limits as well UNLESS they chose to actively involve themselves in the political arena or otherwise actively do something stupid.
exboyfil
(17,865 posts)Rich's employment with their organization?
Lurks Often
(5,455 posts)However to answer your implied question, if I was in charge of NBC she would be fired immediately as would any other employee of NBC who made offensive comments regarding a minor child of any person.
Lifelong Protester
(8,421 posts)I check here a lot, and have not seen any attack posts.
Lurks Often
(5,455 posts)anneboleyn
(5,611 posts)criticizing Barron Trump. We do not speak for ONE SNL writer who sent out a dumb tweet.
HipChick
(25,485 posts)of supposed issues..
Folks are unable to distinguish between a personal FB and a Fanpage FB page
It was started by a RW, and shared almost 800K, and all fell for the ruse
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)A small group of mostly anonymous people make comments online and it requires op after op.
Worktodo
(288 posts)That's awful.
Stinky The Clown
(67,823 posts)She should stop that.
I see no need for an apology.
I see no need to fire her.
I am sure Kellyanne will whine about this right after she riffs on the MLK bust again.
Done and done.
red dog 1
(27,872 posts)msongs
(67,458 posts)for the trump crowd
HipChick
(25,485 posts)anneboleyn
(5,611 posts)It has already been pointed out by many posters that there have not been a significant number of "mean" posts regarding Barron Trump on DU. It is a total waste of our energy.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Some are desperate to broad brush us as a bunch of monsters.
uponit7771
(90,367 posts)50 Shades Of Blue
(10,062 posts)I care about all the needy children (and their families) his father's regime will be hurting and killing. Barron is on his own AFAIC.
dionysus
(26,467 posts)50 Shades Of Blue
(10,062 posts)dionysus
(26,467 posts)Hopefully that's not you
50 Shades Of Blue
(10,062 posts)dionysus
(26,467 posts)To make them...
Only a douchebag goes after kids.
50 Shades Of Blue
(10,062 posts)GEEZ. I have no energy to give a shit about this child of privilege.
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)It's simply not caring about someone whose basic needs are being met.
appleannie1943
(1,303 posts)should be off limits but that means ALL children. Black ones, white ones, Asian ones, Native American ones, gay ones, straight ones, male ones, female ones and ones that gender is not quite clear on.
blueseas
(11,575 posts)Where was the outcry? This is not a normal election - keep that in mind.
MichMary
(1,714 posts)Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)
tenderfoot This message was self-deleted by its author.
lillypaddle
(9,581 posts)Outrage is contagious.
lostnfound
(16,192 posts)It's going to be used to bolster RW propaganda
matt819
(10,749 posts)But how old were Sascha and Malia when their dad moved into the White House? I recall references to them being ghetto trash, hos, monkeys, apes, etc.
Just sayin'.
Warpy
(111,367 posts)FAKE NEWS of "liberals" bashing little Barron have popped up in the usual places all over the far right blogosphere. People who are susceptible to propaganda, who lack the critical thinking skills to think it through and investigate for corroboration have gotten themselves all worked up here on DU.
Pity them.
No one has attacked Barron. He's a 10 year old kid and there's nothing to attack, it's not like he chose his parents .
Babushka
(12 posts)I believe this issue is a big distraction...
One person tweeted a comment about him.. so what? She deleted it...the comment may not have been the best thing for her to tweet.. but it's gone now.
Move on... this is NOT the issue to take up anyone's time.
People say this stuff all time ..sometimes to their own kids.. I am sure this kid has heard worse shit out of his father's own mouth..
This is petty ..we all need to worry about our own kids and grandkids who will suffer biggly under this morons administration.
anneboleyn
(5,611 posts)does not mean that there are huge numbers of left wingers attacking Barron. Also, I agree that the last thing we should spend time on around here is arguing over whether or not we are protecting Barron Trump appropriately. This is a well-known right-wing meme that has been aimed at the left for some time now. We shouldn't fall for it.
Moral Compass
(1,526 posts)I didn't know where these posts were coming from either Until I followed the link that one of your respondents provided and I've got to admit that that is off-limits.
Amimnoch
(4,558 posts)I'm not into ridiculous diversions from the real topics.
I'm not going to attack the kid, but I'm not going to waste my time and energy defending him from those who do. Let the tRumpers waste their time with it just like I spent my time defending Malia and Shasha from the crappy things said about them 8 years ago.
hamsterjill
(15,224 posts)Perhaps I may have missed that, but I've not seen attacks made against Tiffany. She doesn't appear to be involved in the administration. Barron certainly isn't. It that vein, I say they should be left alone. The other three older offspring and spouse(s) who ARE involved in the administration are fair game.
I also believe that the fact that Melania and Barron will not be living in the White House fuels speculation as to why that choice has been made when other children of Presidents were immediately uprooted and moved to the White House. We're not going to be able to silence that speculation because it is we, the taxpayers, who are going to be footing the bill for the extra security required and therefore, we the taxpayers, have a right to speculate if we wish. That decision is, obviously, not Barron's decision but rather the decision of his parents. But people are going to speculate because of that decision.
scscholar
(2,902 posts)I don't see how you can say no one does.
hamsterjill
(15,224 posts)I'm sorry, but what?
Did you even read my post or just the subject line?
red dog 1
(27,872 posts)and other endangered "trophy" animals.
Stinky The Clown
(67,823 posts)Absolutely!
Also their plasticized sister (plastic nose, chin, and boobs - check some before and after photos) who has, among other things, spent time in Europe with BigPoot's girlfriend.
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/08/ivanka-trump-is-sight-seeing-in-croatia-with-bff-vladimir-putins-girlfriend/
red dog 1
(27,872 posts)Q - What's the difference between Saddam Hussein and Donald Trump?
A - One is dead & had a cheesy mustache -- the other is alive & has a cheesy hairpiece.
Thanks for that link - (that story would make a good OP).
NoGoodNamesLeft
(2,056 posts)Gossiping and spreading the false story that he has autism is bullying. That is being done on this site. His mother's lawyer provided a statement from his mother that he is not autistic. People are still repeating it and they need to stop it.
mopinko
(70,261 posts)there is no shame in not being neurotypical.
i think the original comments about it from rosie o'donnel were respectful, and concerned for the boy, and others like him. she has a pulpit, and could do a lot if they came "out". assuming it is true, but either way, stigma bashing is a thing that needs more doing.
armchair dx is shaky, but its not like we are gonna get the truth about jack hit from these people.
but i dont see the shaming that people insist is happening here.
adigal
(7,581 posts)So weird. Made up shit.
Lotusflower70
(3,077 posts)Katie Rich mocked Barron Trump. I don't like the Donald but leave the child alone. Looks like she has been suspended.