Tue Jan 24, 2017, 07:43 AM
kpete (71,087 posts)
CIA folks are worried if they find dirt on Putin & tell Trump-Trump will blow up their source's spot
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40 replies, 9103 views
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kpete | Jan 2017 | OP |
TubbersUK | Jan 2017 | #1 | |
annabanana | Jan 2017 | #2 | |
get the red out | Jan 2017 | #3 | |
fun n serious | Jan 2017 | #4 | |
Sancho | Jan 2017 | #5 | |
get the red out | Jan 2017 | #6 | |
bdamomma | Jan 2017 | #7 | |
greymattermom | Jan 2017 | #8 | |
mopinko | Jan 2017 | #18 | |
DK504 | Jan 2017 | #20 | |
TeamPooka | Jan 2017 | #22 | |
tenorly | Jan 2017 | #29 | |
hollowdweller | Jan 2017 | #31 | |
jmowreader | Jan 2017 | #32 | |
McCamy Taylor | Jan 2017 | #9 | |
Jim Beard | Jan 2017 | #10 | |
retrowire | Jan 2017 | #11 | |
TheBlackAdder | Jan 2017 | #12 | |
Eugene | Jan 2017 | #13 | |
drm604 | Jan 2017 | #14 | |
world wide wally | Jan 2017 | #16 | |
blueseas | Jan 2017 | #26 | |
nikto | Jan 2017 | #36 | |
world wide wally | Jan 2017 | #15 | |
woodsprite | Jan 2017 | #17 | |
KPN | Jan 2017 | #19 | |
chowder66 | Jan 2017 | #21 | |
Hekate | Jan 2017 | #23 | |
lark | Jan 2017 | #24 | |
blueseas | Jan 2017 | #25 | |
sarcasmo | Jan 2017 | #27 | |
erronis | Jan 2017 | #39 | |
MountainFool | Jan 2017 | #28 | |
calimary | Jan 2017 | #38 | |
BainsBane | Jan 2017 | #30 | |
spanone | Jan 2017 | #33 | |
TeamPooka | Jan 2017 | #34 | |
nikto | Jan 2017 | #35 | |
AgadorSparticus | Jan 2017 | #37 | |
jeanmarc | Jan 2017 | #40 |
Response to kpete (Original post)
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 07:47 AM
annabanana (52,791 posts)
2. another revoltin' development Repubs have gotten us into . .
thanks
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 07:47 AM
get the red out (13,439 posts)
3. God
How can the CIA keep Trump from getting agents and sources killed? A Russian operative as President.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 07:52 AM
fun n serious (4,451 posts)
4. Holy shit,
this is big,
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 08:03 AM
Sancho (8,901 posts)
5. Chances are that the reason we didn't hear about the Russians months ago...
is simply to avoid letting them know the sources and methods.
Better install an insane President than to let the secrets out. |
Response to kpete (Original post)
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 09:20 AM
get the red out (13,439 posts)
6. Frightening
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 09:22 AM
bdamomma (62,315 posts)
7. crap
we know trump is colluding with the Russians this puts our CIA in a dangerous situation.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 09:25 AM
greymattermom (5,724 posts)
8. The CIA will trap him
by giving him some information that purposely leads the Russians to a wrong location. The information will be unique and given only to Trump. When the Russians show up at that location, he will be charged with treason. Right?
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Response to greymattermom (Reply #8)
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 11:24 AM
mopinko (67,254 posts)
18. from your lips to foggy bottom.
tho i am sure this is something that they have a grip on. sop w a source or agent that seems hinky.
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Response to greymattermom (Reply #8)
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 12:46 PM
DK504 (3,847 posts)
20. Nice.
Please, please , please. So delicious.
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Response to greymattermom (Reply #8)
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 02:12 PM
TeamPooka (22,768 posts)
22. Trump is a honeypot away from scandal.
Response to TeamPooka (Reply #22)
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 12:27 AM
tenorly (2,037 posts)
29. Yeah. And it's probably his own daughter.
I trust the CIA has her dresses and accessories good and bugged. The tales they would tell.
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Response to greymattermom (Reply #8)
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 12:36 AM
hollowdweller (4,229 posts)
31. No but he will ignore and we'll have another 9/11 style attack
The question is will Dems learn. Will they join in another war or attack him like the GOP on Benghazi. |
Response to greymattermom (Reply #8)
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 01:48 AM
jmowreader (49,373 posts)
32. Espionage is easier to convict than treason
Response to kpete (Original post)
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 09:27 AM
McCamy Taylor (19,240 posts)
9. You just say "no."
Response to kpete (Original post)
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 09:28 AM
Jim Beard (2,535 posts)
10. This is troubling because it is a Presidents organization but,
it can can have the guts to notify congress before the president learns of it.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 09:38 AM
retrowire (10,345 posts)
11. We need to hope that we have heroes on the inside today. Nt
Response to kpete (Original post)
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 09:56 AM
TheBlackAdder (26,604 posts)
12. Any source that is outed with undoubtedly fall off the face of the earth.
Response to kpete (Original post)
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 09:59 AM
Eugene (57,244 posts)
13. Not just the source. Will Trump hand over the agents too?
Response to kpete (Original post)
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 10:11 AM
drm604 (16,230 posts)
14. It's frightening to think of the CIA turning on a US President.
And it's frightening to think of them not doing so.
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Response to drm604 (Reply #14)
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 10:51 AM
world wide wally (21,497 posts)
16. He's not my President
Response to drm604 (Reply #14)
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 05:50 PM
blueseas (11,575 posts)
26. +1
Exactly our predicament.
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Response to drm604 (Reply #14)
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 03:47 AM
nikto (3,284 posts)
36. Uh, yeah, CIA vs The Prez is kind of a scary idea, ya' think?
JFK and the CIA/Allen Dulles were very much at odds, and even bitter enemies.
If interested, check this out: https://www.amazon.com/Devils-Chessboard-Dulles-Americas-Government/dp/0062276174 here's more info: https://www.harpercollins.com/9780062276162/the-devils-chessboard It's derived from long-classified documents that were released to the author and his team. I do not have a high degree of trust in the CIA, regardless of Trump and his situation. History tells us the CIA is not trustworthy. I say, Be careful of the bedfellows the awfulness of Trump drives you to sleep with. |
Response to kpete (Original post)
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 10:49 AM
world wide wally (21,497 posts)
15. Where's James Bond when we fucking need him?
It's become hard for me to watch spy movies and war movies knowing that given a little time, the bad guys won in spite of the heroes in the movies.
Thanks, deplorables |
Response to world wide wally (Reply #15)
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 11:07 AM
woodsprite (11,536 posts)
17. I'm so there with you. I was watching a show on Hitler last night.
It was mainly about Hitler himself, not policies or campaigns. Probably not the smartest thing to do before bed, but saw so many disturbing similarities that I had nightmares. So afraid this is not going to end until he nukes somebody, maybe even our own people. The stupid ass Congressional Repubs think they're so smart playing him to get everything they want. I don't think they're going to find it as easy to "Dump Trump" when they want to. While they're off doing their giddy thing, Bannon, Conway and others in his cabal are manipulating him in their own way. I hate the guy, he's a #1 ass, he never should have been allowed in that position, but I do feel that he and his mental instabilities are being used and manipulated by both sides.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 12:18 PM
KPN (14,907 posts)
19. They're the fucking CIA.
They are master manipulators -- and they can't figure out a way around that? They'll find a way, just like Comey and the FBI did.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 02:09 PM
chowder66 (8,146 posts)
21. Can't they provide documentation, recordings without revealing the source?
The source shouldn't have to be brought out if they are in an undercover operation regardless if they have something on our own elected officials.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 03:38 PM
lark (22,360 posts)
24. CIA should do what he would do, just lie.
Make up a name and tell it is was *this* agent only it's totally made up. Drumpf can't be trusted with the truth. He'd call Pootie in a NY minute and give up the person. I can hear it now, D - here's the name, you do what you have to do to stop this and of course, I know nothing about it, P - naturally, you need deniability when something happens to him/her.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 05:48 PM
blueseas (11,575 posts)
25. Spies like us
Let them keep safe.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 06:27 PM
sarcasmo (23,249 posts)
27. MI6 and Mossad will be cautious with what they share during Trumps tenure.
Response to sarcasmo (Reply #27)
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 10:00 PM
erronis (12,949 posts)
39. Altho I can see Mossad being a string-puller also
Given the probable international reach of the apparatus, it probably crosses national lines. Perhaps corporate connections, more likely a well-funded very cautious group with psyop capabilities.
At this point, probably every member of the US Congress has a dossier that can be used to influence votes as needed. Sex, money, drugs - the usual sins. Just a small reminder to a committee chairperson or speaker that the game needs to be thrown. And don't forget the infiltration of the DOJ during Ashcroft's abortive reign. The xian alt-right kiddos were brought in to replace career/knowledgeable staff - all in the name of christ/whatever. Now, 8-12 years later these infiltrations have been sown throughout the federal and state governments - now with much more care and cunning. Not sure in the name of any caring savior, however. |
Response to kpete (Original post)
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 10:07 PM
MountainFool (91 posts)
28. loss of human int ...
If you were a deep agent, would you stick around to be outed by Trump's cozy dealings with Putin? I suspect we're losing human intelligence as quickly as they can get themselves out of danger.
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Response to MountainFool (Reply #28)
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 12:09 PM
calimary (75,922 posts)
38. Yeah, unfortunately. That sounds like a very reasonable concern to me.
And the CONS are all so thrilled and relieved that they "won" (OR I'd submit the more accurate verb here is "STOLE"
![]() They've been dying to get the White House back, especially with a stooge installed at the top, who, as their anti-tax "god" Grover Norquist has said, only needs to know how to hold a pen - to sign whatever they put in front of him. I was gratified to see a clip of him at a podium talking about that very thing, played on either CNN or MSNBC in the last couple of days. CONNECT THE DOTS. |
Response to kpete (Original post)
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 12:33 AM
BainsBane (52,701 posts)
30. This is precisely why he's not fit to be president
He can't protect the nation's security. Moreover, he doesn't even want to.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 02:49 AM
TeamPooka (22,768 posts)
34. CIA should finger Putin's allies in russia regardless of source so when Vlad's plant
in the Oval Office spills the beans so Putin kills his best men.
double double cross. wait is that a triple cross? ![]() |
Response to kpete (Original post)
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 03:39 AM
nikto (3,284 posts)
35. I thought the CIA ALREADY HAD evidence
Now I'm confused.
You mean the CIA doesn't have any evidence yet? I thought they said they had it, but did not want to release it, to compromise sources. OK, so they actually never had the evidence to begin with. That's what I have to conclude. |
Response to kpete (Original post)
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 10:06 PM
jeanmarc (1,685 posts)
40. Guess we may find more confidence about the JFK assassination
If a few people suddenly die, like a Flynn, I won't believe it's just coincidence.
I'm no conspiracy guy either. |