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CIA folks are worried if they find dirt on Putin & tell Trump-Trump will blow up their source's spot (Original Post) kpete Jan 2017 OP
K & R n/t TubbersUK Jan 2017 #1
another revoltin' development Repubs have gotten us into . . annabanana Jan 2017 #2
God get the red out Jan 2017 #3
Holy shit, fun n serious Jan 2017 #4
Chances are that the reason we didn't hear about the Russians months ago... Sancho Jan 2017 #5
Frightening get the red out Jan 2017 #6
crap bdamomma Jan 2017 #7
The CIA will trap him greymattermom Jan 2017 #8
from your lips to foggy bottom. mopinko Jan 2017 #18
Nice. DK504 Jan 2017 #20
Trump is a honeypot away from scandal. TeamPooka Jan 2017 #22
Yeah. And it's probably his own daughter. tenorly Jan 2017 #29
No but he will ignore and we'll have another 9/11 style attack hollowdweller Jan 2017 #31
Espionage is easier to convict than treason jmowreader Jan 2017 #32
You just say "no." McCamy Taylor Jan 2017 #9
This is troubling because it is a Presidents organization but, Jim Beard Jan 2017 #10
We need to hope that we have heroes on the inside today. Nt retrowire Jan 2017 #11
Any source that is outed with undoubtedly fall off the face of the earth. TheBlackAdder Jan 2017 #12
Not just the source. Will Trump hand over the agents too? Eugene Jan 2017 #13
It's frightening to think of the CIA turning on a US President. drm604 Jan 2017 #14
He's not my President world wide wally Jan 2017 #16
+1 blueseas Jan 2017 #26
Uh, yeah, CIA vs The Prez is kind of a scary idea, ya' think? nikto Jan 2017 #36
Where's James Bond when we fucking need him? world wide wally Jan 2017 #15
I'm so there with you. I was watching a show on Hitler last night. woodsprite Jan 2017 #17
They're the fucking CIA. KPN Jan 2017 #19
Can't they provide documentation, recordings without revealing the source? chowder66 Jan 2017 #21
KnR Hekate Jan 2017 #23
CIA should do what he would do, just lie. lark Jan 2017 #24
Spies like us blueseas Jan 2017 #25
MI6 and Mossad will be cautious with what they share during Trumps tenure. sarcasmo Jan 2017 #27
Altho I can see Mossad being a string-puller also erronis Jan 2017 #39
loss of human int ... MountainFool Jan 2017 #28
Yeah, unfortunately. That sounds like a very reasonable concern to me. calimary Jan 2017 #38
This is precisely why he's not fit to be president BainsBane Jan 2017 #30
Jesus. spanone Jan 2017 #33
CIA should finger Putin's allies in russia regardless of source so when Vlad's plant TeamPooka Jan 2017 #34
I thought the CIA ALREADY HAD evidence nikto Jan 2017 #35
This message was self-deleted by its author AgadorSparticus Jan 2017 #37
Guess we may find more confidence about the JFK assassination jeanmarc Jan 2017 #40

get the red out

(13,472 posts)
3. God
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 07:47 AM
Jan 2017

How can the CIA keep Trump from getting agents and sources killed? A Russian operative as President.

Sancho

(9,073 posts)
5. Chances are that the reason we didn't hear about the Russians months ago...
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 08:03 AM
Jan 2017

is simply to avoid letting them know the sources and methods.

Better install an insane President than to let the secrets out.

greymattermom

(5,779 posts)
8. The CIA will trap him
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 09:25 AM
Jan 2017

by giving him some information that purposely leads the Russians to a wrong location. The information will be unique and given only to Trump. When the Russians show up at that location, he will be charged with treason. Right?

mopinko

(70,959 posts)
18. from your lips to foggy bottom.
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 11:24 AM
Jan 2017

tho i am sure this is something that they have a grip on. sop w a source or agent that seems hinky.

tenorly

(2,037 posts)
29. Yeah. And it's probably his own daughter.
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 12:27 AM
Jan 2017

I trust the CIA has her dresses and accessories good and bugged. The tales they would tell.

 

hollowdweller

(4,229 posts)
31. No but he will ignore and we'll have another 9/11 style attack
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 12:36 AM
Jan 2017

The question is will Dems learn. Will they join in another war or attack him like the GOP on Benghazi.
 

Jim Beard

(2,535 posts)
10. This is troubling because it is a Presidents organization but,
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 09:28 AM
Jan 2017

it can can have the guts to notify congress before the president learns of it.

drm604

(16,230 posts)
14. It's frightening to think of the CIA turning on a US President.
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 10:11 AM
Jan 2017

And it's frightening to think of them not doing so.

 

nikto

(3,284 posts)
36. Uh, yeah, CIA vs The Prez is kind of a scary idea, ya' think?
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 03:47 AM
Jan 2017

JFK and the CIA/Allen Dulles were very much at odds, and even bitter enemies.

If interested, check this out:

https://www.amazon.com/Devils-Chessboard-Dulles-Americas-Government/dp/0062276174

here's more info:

https://www.harpercollins.com/9780062276162/the-devils-chessboard


It's derived from long-classified documents that were released to the author and his team.

I do not have a high degree of trust in the CIA, regardless of Trump and his situation.

History tells us the CIA is not trustworthy.


I say,
Be careful of the bedfellows the awfulness of Trump drives you to sleep with.

world wide wally

(21,765 posts)
15. Where's James Bond when we fucking need him?
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 10:49 AM
Jan 2017

It's become hard for me to watch spy movies and war movies knowing that given a little time, the bad guys won in spite of the heroes in the movies.

Thanks, deplorables

woodsprite

(12,001 posts)
17. I'm so there with you. I was watching a show on Hitler last night.
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 11:07 AM
Jan 2017

It was mainly about Hitler himself, not policies or campaigns. Probably not the smartest thing to do before bed, but saw so many disturbing similarities that I had nightmares. So afraid this is not going to end until he nukes somebody, maybe even our own people. The stupid ass Congressional Repubs think they're so smart playing him to get everything they want. I don't think they're going to find it as easy to "Dump Trump" when they want to. While they're off doing their giddy thing, Bannon, Conway and others in his cabal are manipulating him in their own way. I hate the guy, he's a #1 ass, he never should have been allowed in that position, but I do feel that he and his mental instabilities are being used and manipulated by both sides.

KPN

(15,825 posts)
19. They're the fucking CIA.
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 12:18 PM
Jan 2017

They are master manipulators -- and they can't figure out a way around that? They'll find a way, just like Comey and the FBI did.

chowder66

(9,458 posts)
21. Can't they provide documentation, recordings without revealing the source?
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 02:09 PM
Jan 2017

The source shouldn't have to be brought out if they are in an undercover operation regardless if they have something on our own elected officials.

lark

(23,548 posts)
24. CIA should do what he would do, just lie.
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 03:38 PM
Jan 2017

Make up a name and tell it is was *this* agent only it's totally made up. Drumpf can't be trusted with the truth. He'd call Pootie in a NY minute and give up the person. I can hear it now, D - here's the name, you do what you have to do to stop this and of course, I know nothing about it, P - naturally, you need deniability when something happens to him/her.

erronis

(15,977 posts)
39. Altho I can see Mossad being a string-puller also
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 10:00 PM
Jan 2017

Given the probable international reach of the apparatus, it probably crosses national lines. Perhaps corporate connections, more likely a well-funded very cautious group with psyop capabilities.

At this point, probably every member of the US Congress has a dossier that can be used to influence votes as needed. Sex, money, drugs - the usual sins. Just a small reminder to a committee chairperson or speaker that the game needs to be thrown.

And don't forget the infiltration of the DOJ during Ashcroft's abortive reign. The xian alt-right kiddos were brought in to replace career/knowledgeable staff - all in the name of christ/whatever. Now, 8-12 years later these infiltrations have been sown throughout the federal and state governments - now with much more care and cunning. Not sure in the name of any caring savior, however.

MountainFool

(91 posts)
28. loss of human int ...
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 10:07 PM
Jan 2017

If you were a deep agent, would you stick around to be outed by Trump's cozy dealings with Putin? I suspect we're losing human intelligence as quickly as they can get themselves out of danger.

calimary

(82,605 posts)
38. Yeah, unfortunately. That sounds like a very reasonable concern to me.
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 12:09 PM
Jan 2017

And the CONS are all so thrilled and relieved that they "won" (OR I'd submit the more accurate verb here is "STOLE&quot the White House back that they'll do anything to sustain that status.

They've been dying to get the White House back, especially with a stooge installed at the top, who, as their anti-tax "god" Grover Norquist has said, only needs to know how to hold a pen - to sign whatever they put in front of him. I was gratified to see a clip of him at a podium talking about that very thing, played on either CNN or MSNBC in the last couple of days.

CONNECT THE DOTS.

BainsBane

(53,380 posts)
30. This is precisely why he's not fit to be president
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 12:33 AM
Jan 2017

He can't protect the nation's security. Moreover, he doesn't even want to.

TeamPooka

(24,644 posts)
34. CIA should finger Putin's allies in russia regardless of source so when Vlad's plant
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 02:49 AM
Jan 2017

in the Oval Office spills the beans so Putin kills his best men.
double double cross. wait is that a triple cross?

 

nikto

(3,284 posts)
35. I thought the CIA ALREADY HAD evidence
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 03:39 AM
Jan 2017

Now I'm confused.

You mean the CIA doesn't have any evidence yet?

I thought they said they had it, but did not want to release it, to compromise sources.

OK, so they actually never had the evidence to begin with.
That's what I have to conclude.


Response to kpete (Original post)

jeanmarc

(1,685 posts)
40. Guess we may find more confidence about the JFK assassination
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 10:06 PM
Jan 2017

If a few people suddenly die, like a Flynn, I won't believe it's just coincidence.

I'm no conspiracy guy either.

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