ENOUGH ALREADY

[Farmgirl1961]

All of here at DU have known for a long time what a horrible human being Donald J. Trump is. The rest of the electorate (except for the minority holdouts) are beginning to open up their eyes that Trump is on his way to destroying us. We MUST demand that politicians, who we elect, do their job and get this madman out of the White House ASAP. We must not stand idly by. I suppose what that means for all of us is jamming the phone lines to our Senators and Congress people, requesting they do what they can to get this man indicted and impeached.

It means we need to march in the streets on a very regular basis. We need to make a lot of noise and we need to revolt. This cannot stand.

[still_one]

1. It also needs to been done in the first year before he starts stacking the courts

[Va Lefty]

4. Then Pence could pack the courts

See below response. We are fucked!

[still_one]

10. First it will delay thing. Delay is good, less damage. While Pence would become next in line, that

is NOT a reason to try to get trump removed if he has done an impeachable offense. He also might be able to be removed through the 25th amendment without going through impeachment

[rzemanfl]

2. K&R n/t

[guillaumeb]

3. All hail Theocrat in Chief Mike Pence?

Would Pence really be preferable?

[Farmgirl1961]

6. No - but Trump is insane

The entire election, including POTUS, VP and cabinet members are all part of the rig.

[guillaumeb]

9. And they enable and validate his insanity by pretending that he is "normal".

And the media is also complicit for the billions in free and uncritical publicity that Trump received.

[triron]

11. I already told my senators Trump is a traitor.

I got no response from them. And they are democrats. Wimps

[still_one]

13. It isn't a question of whether Pence is preferable. Is trump involved activities where he should be

impeached? Is he mentally fit to be President? If not, the 25th amendment might be able to remove him.

My point is, any of those thing would create a delay in their destructive agenda. Delay is good. Less damage

[guillaumeb]

17. Trump is a crude distraction from the GOP agenda.

Pence, by contrast, gives the appearance of normalcy. But Pence is a modern GOP politician who cannot compromise. Either way, the GOP is in charge.

[still_one]

26. I disagree. He is not a distraction. He is just as destructive as any republican as

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evidenced by his appointments and executive actions

[guillaumeb]

28. By distraction I meant his tweets and behavior.

And yes, his actions are pure GOP behavior.

[still_one]

29. got it

[Turn CO Blue]

14. The question before us, when measuring two insane people, is - who is the least insane?

In my view, I think Pence is the least insane of the two.

Religious zealotry is more focused; Trump is inconsistent, vicious, vengeful, impulsive, explosive, illiterate and forgetful. More urgently, I don't think anyone or anything can control him, not even Ivanka or Putin. Not even his love of money.

I think we lose a lot of rights and progressive ground in the US including economic recession with Pence, but I am more concerned with Trump we get a depression at the best hope and WWIII at best guess, and nuclear winter as an outside possibility.

Just my take.

[guillaumeb]

19. Either way the people lose.

So it is a matter of style over substance.

[Turn CO Blue]

20. Yes, the people lose either way. But nuclear winter is worse. Every living thing irradiated or dead.

[guillaumeb]

21. If one believes that Trump would truly use nuclear weapons.

I do not. Nothing suggests that he would ever do anything to endanger himself.

[triron]

22. you are joking, no?

[guillaumeb]

23. Not at all. Trump is a coward, and I do not believe he would

do anything to endanger himself or his lifestyle.

[Turn CO Blue]

24. I don't know what an power-mad germaphobe with impulse control and explosive outbursts will do

I just know that he has access to a luxury bunker for himself and a couple of thousand of his friends, with enough supplies for hundreds of years.

But you are correct, I am being hyperbolic and pessimistic and slightly irrational -- and that is truly NOT my normal personality setting.

It's not that he surprises me each day; it's that I'm more disgusted each day.

[guillaumeb]

27. The entire situation is disgusting.

As is the fact that 41% of registered voters could not be bothered to vote.

[LanternWaste]

16. Propping up one idiot to protect us from another idiot is a weak justification.

Propping up one idiot to protect us from another idiot is a weak justification.

[guillaumeb]

18. I am not suggesting supporting Trump in any way.

But I feel that Pence is the price Trump paid for GOP support. With either one the GOP agenda will be promoted.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

25. Sadly, in terms of degree, yes.

He'd be less volatile to start an international incident, and he'd also be tainted by association to Trump so that hobble him.

Neither is preferable, but President Pence is like being bit by a Copperhead. President Trump is like being bitten by a Black Mamba. Both are dangerous and can cause damage, but one is much more serious than the other.

[asiliveandbreathe]

5. Preachin' to the choir..we know how bad his is..how complicit the congress is -

McCain said he would vote for tillerson "when pigs fly" - I guess he saw a pig flying...our DEMs in congress need to step it up...

Thanks for the confirmation, though, I hear ya' farmgirl1961...

[Eleanors38]

7. I'll go with this.

[Wellstone ruled]

8. Let's realize this,

Trump and his Minions are running a good cop bad cop Public Relations and Propaganda Scheme on the Public.

Until we are able to put a stop to that,very afraid nothing changes.

[maxrandb]

12. I think a Mental Health evaluation

followed by implementation of the 25TH Amendment is in order.

[still_one]

15. That is a possibility. What people need to realize, it isn't whether Pence is also bad, it is that

any process to remove trump would create a delay, and delay means less damage