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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,995 posts)
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 01:23 PM Jan 2017

*****BREAKING NEWS***** TRUMP WANTS TO BRING BACK EXTRAORDINARY RENDITION

WASHINGTON — The Trump administration is preparing a sweeping executive order that would clear the way for the C.I.A. to reopen overseas “black site” prisons, like those where it detained and tortured terrorism suspects before former President Barack Obama shut them down.

President Trump’s three-page draft order, titled “Detention and Interrogation of Enemy Combatants” and obtained by The New York Times, would also undo many of the other restrictions on handling detainees that Mr. Obama put in place in response to policies of the George W. Bush administration.

If Mr. Trump signs the draft order, he would also revoke Mr. Obama’s directive to give the International Committee of the Red Cross access to all detainees in American custody. That would be another step toward reopening secret prisons outside of the normal wartime rules established by the Geneva Conventions, although statutory obstacles would remain.

Mr. Obama tried to close the prison at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, and refused to send new detainees there, but the draft order directs the Pentagon to continue using the site “for the detention and trial of newly captured” detainees — including not just more people suspected of being members of Al Qaeda or the Taliban, like the 41 remaining detainees, but also Islamic State detainees. It does not address legal problems that might raise.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/25/us/politics/cia-detainee-prisons.html
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*****BREAKING NEWS***** TRUMP WANTS TO BRING BACK EXTRAORDINARY RENDITION (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2017 OP
Let's call it what it really is - torture. Arkansas Granny Jan 2017 #1
It matters not if we withdraw, we have not followed it for years now, sadly. n/t dixiegrrrrl Jan 2017 #18
See this Tanuki Jan 2017 #2
I heard on the radio this A.M. that he wants to reopen the black sites around the world eleny Jan 2017 #3
I just heard it on MSNBC. What a cruel fuck he is. Expect nothing good. nolabear Jan 2017 #4
We're wearing a heavy yoke around our collective neck and it's only his 1st week in office eleny Jan 2017 #8
Trump needs a 9-11, so they'll do everything to provoke one thejoker123 Jan 2017 #5
Bingo workinclasszero Jan 2017 #12
hardly breaking news...wasn't that a campaign promise? anarch Jan 2017 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author Spock_is_Skeptical Jan 2017 #7
Hell he wants to torture innocent family members Generator Jan 2017 #9
If you watched the debate he said kill them alllove Jan 2017 #14
For gov't employees and the media? hollowdweller Jan 2017 #10
After a point, early on I'd imagine, 2naSalit Jan 2017 #13
I don't believe for 1 minute we ever closed all our black sites over seas alllove Jan 2017 #11
Of course we didn't. Folks here think torture stopped when Obama became president. nt m-lekktor Jan 2017 #15
Who presented him with this idea? lpbk2713 Jan 2017 #16
That Kelly guy...ex-general, I think. dixiegrrrrl Jan 2017 #20
American carnage Victor_c3 Jan 2017 #17
Don't prettify TORTURE malaise Jan 2017 #19
KNR Lucinda Jan 2017 #21

Arkansas Granny

(31,746 posts)
1. Let's call it what it really is - torture.
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 01:25 PM
Jan 2017

I suppose that next he'll want to withdraw from the Geneva Convention.

eleny

(46,166 posts)
3. I heard on the radio this A.M. that he wants to reopen the black sites around the world
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 01:27 PM
Jan 2017

Is our only hope that the other countries refuse? I hope they can and do.

Btw, I heard it on Stephanie Miller's morning program.

anarch

(6,536 posts)
6. hardly breaking news...wasn't that a campaign promise?
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 01:33 PM
Jan 2017

I fully expect U.S. citizens who oppose the fascist agenda to be rounded up and tortured, too.

Just after the election I was talking to an acquaintance who is a so-called "libertarian"...I assume he voted for Johnson...he was trying to, as he said, "cheer people up" by looking at the bright side, trying to be optimistic, downplaying the ridiculous campaign promises, etc. In the midst of a "it's all just partisan bullshit, everything will be OK" kind of conversation, I think I said something along the lines of "well, it's not like I unequivocally approve of everything Obama's done...I have very serious issues with the whole drone warfare thing, for instance." He replied, "well hopefully the new administration will turn that around," to which I said "OMG you're RIGHT! He'll probably start using the drones to attack people in the U.S. who oppose him!!" At the time, I was just being snarky...now, I won't be at all surprised if that actually happens.

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Generator

(7,770 posts)
9. Hell he wants to torture innocent family members
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 01:45 PM
Jan 2017

did anyone pay attention? (I know most here did). And yeah Pence is just as bad. NOT. There are degrees of horror. Scumbag Trump is a Saddam wannabee.

 

alllove

(41 posts)
14. If you watched the debate he said kill them
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 01:55 PM
Jan 2017

He's demented and was called on it by Bush.

Bush said they won't follow illegal orders by you.

The scary thing is Trump said yes they will and I'm scared to say some will,

2naSalit

(91,229 posts)
13. After a point, early on I'd imagine,
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 01:51 PM
Jan 2017

it won't matter... the only common denominator will be loyalty to the orange one.

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