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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTrump's flashy executive actions could run aground (Politico)
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/trumps-flashy-executive-actions-could-run-aground-234200President Donald Trumps team made little effort to consult with federal agency lawyers or lawmakers as they churned out executive actions this week, stoking fears the White House is creating the appearance of real momentum with flawed orders that might be unworkable, unenforceable or even illegal.
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The breakneck pace of Trumps executive actions might please his supporters, but critics are questioning whether the documents are being rushed through without the necessary review from agency experts and lawmakers who will bear the burden of actually carrying them out. For example, there are legal questions on how the country can force companies building pipelines to use materials manufactured domestically, which might not be available or which could violate trade treaty obligations. Theres also the question of whether the federal government can take billions from cities who dont comply with immigration enforcement actions: Legal experts said it was unclear.
You want to make sure when youre dealing with high stakes, important issues youre getting the best information from the breadth of expertise that exists in government, said Max Stier, president of the Partnership for Public Service, a nonpartisan nonprofit that supports the civil service. You dont know what you dont know.
The White House did not respond to a request for comment.
Trump, less than a week into his presidency, is continuing the improvisational style he used to run his company, his campaign and his transition. Hes relying on a small circle of trusted advisers to act decisively. And hes emphasizing the theatrics of autographing official-looking leather-bound documents in the Oval Office.
People familiar with Trumps planning say he wanted daily events to show supporters he would follow through on the items of his campaign agenda. He was determined to show people that hes getting to work from Day One, one person familiar with his planning said. This person said he wanted to take charge and show his supporters that former President Barack Obamas tenure was decisively over.
But the process is playing out chaotically both inside the White House and throughout the federal government.
Inside the West Wing, it is almost impossible for some aides to know what is in the executive orders, staffers say. They have been written by Stephen Miller, Trumps senior White House adviser for policy, and Steve Bannon, Trumps chief strategist, according to people familiar with the matter. Ideas for some of the Trump executive orders came from transition officials and so-called landing teams, sources say, who werent working in the White House.
Aides have also said that it was sometimes a game-time decision if Trump was going to sign a certain executive order that day.
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The breakneck pace of Trumps executive actions might please his supporters, but critics are questioning whether the documents are being rushed through without the necessary review from agency experts and lawmakers who will bear the burden of actually carrying them out. For example, there are legal questions on how the country can force companies building pipelines to use materials manufactured domestically, which might not be available or which could violate trade treaty obligations. Theres also the question of whether the federal government can take billions from cities who dont comply with immigration enforcement actions: Legal experts said it was unclear.
You want to make sure when youre dealing with high stakes, important issues youre getting the best information from the breadth of expertise that exists in government, said Max Stier, president of the Partnership for Public Service, a nonpartisan nonprofit that supports the civil service. You dont know what you dont know.
The White House did not respond to a request for comment.
Trump, less than a week into his presidency, is continuing the improvisational style he used to run his company, his campaign and his transition. Hes relying on a small circle of trusted advisers to act decisively. And hes emphasizing the theatrics of autographing official-looking leather-bound documents in the Oval Office.
People familiar with Trumps planning say he wanted daily events to show supporters he would follow through on the items of his campaign agenda. He was determined to show people that hes getting to work from Day One, one person familiar with his planning said. This person said he wanted to take charge and show his supporters that former President Barack Obamas tenure was decisively over.
But the process is playing out chaotically both inside the White House and throughout the federal government.
Inside the West Wing, it is almost impossible for some aides to know what is in the executive orders, staffers say. They have been written by Stephen Miller, Trumps senior White House adviser for policy, and Steve Bannon, Trumps chief strategist, according to people familiar with the matter. Ideas for some of the Trump executive orders came from transition officials and so-called landing teams, sources say, who werent working in the White House.
Aides have also said that it was sometimes a game-time decision if Trump was going to sign a certain executive order that day.
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highplainsdem
Jan 2017
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Yep. EOs being written by a man whose motto is "Honey badger don't give a shit."
highplainsdem
Jan 2017
#4
trump has no idea what he's even signing. reality teevee president. screwn, yes.
spanone
Jan 2017
#6
Doesn't it remind you of a king, making crazy proclamations to the masses? I honestly think
Laura PourMeADrink
Jan 2017
#11
Cha
(297,574 posts)1. KICK
spanone
(135,862 posts)2. he has no intention of 'working with congress'
so bannon is writing these executive orders?.....we are fucked
highplainsdem
(49,029 posts)4. Yep. EOs being written by a man whose motto is "Honey badger don't give a shit."
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/cnn-guest-on-steve-bannon-honey-badger-dont-give-a-sht/
What could possibly go wrong?
What could possibly go wrong?
madokie
(51,076 posts)5. We are screwn
spanone
(135,862 posts)6. trump has no idea what he's even signing. reality teevee president. screwn, yes.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)11. Doesn't it remind you of a king, making crazy proclamations to the masses? I honestly think
he has no earthly idea how the legislative process works.
Wish someone would say to Spicer:
"Why is the President calling for changes that have such huge implications to our people and their hard paid taxes, when he hasn't even had enough time to prudently study the issue? Isn't that reckless?"
madokie
(51,076 posts)13. And he could care less what he's doing to the country
all he cares about is getting back at Obama for making him look the fool he is
Plus he is a Grifter
AgadorSparticus
(7,963 posts)3. Oh garsh darn those pesky little details!!!
unblock
(52,309 posts)7. it may be a good thing that this is amateur hour.
i wonder if flawed or illegal executive orders can be challenged or stayed.
maybe they'll simply be ignored.
Madam45for2923
(7,178 posts)8. Stupidest bunch!
Mc Mike
(9,115 posts)9. His team could have done their homework, but were too busy with victory tours and twitter wars.
Que lastima.
SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)12. +1000000!
Blanks
(4,835 posts)10. This would be a good time for Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama to weigh in...
Their input on the legality of executive orders would be meaningful.