Why do Deplorables hate Mexicans?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

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I live in Los Angeles. It's a minority majority city. There are a lot of Mexicans here. They are a warm, friendly, kind, earnest, and industrious people. Isn't that what we want from our fellow Americans. I am a middle aged white guy and from the youngest to the oldest they invariably call me sir, senor, or boss.








ON EDIT, EDITED FOR CLARITY- TRUMP'S VERY ANNOUNCEMENT SPEECH CAME WITH A CALUMNY AGAINST MEXICANS:

"When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.”

-Donald J. Trump

[CurtEastPoint]

1. Atlanta, too. Got new roof the other day. Entire crew Mexican and so hardworking, friendly

and polite.

[ProfessorGAC]

2. Because They're Taking All Those Factory Jobs!

Or not. Maybe it's those high end engineering jobs they're taking from americans. No, that's not it.

I'm thinking more of a word that begins with B or R.

[NCTraveler]

3. In my area of Florida there are a lot of Mexican Americans and Mexicans.

Overall, I love their passion for family and being neighborly. I do think they should be referred to as Americans or Mexican Americans as a whole.

[RKP5637]

4. I've always liked Mexicans and find them more enjoyable to be around than many Americans. So

many Americans are so filled with hatred for so many things it's incredible.

[Zoonart]

8. Most middle Americans

watched too many movies in the 80's depicting Mexicans as gang bangers turning inner cities into drug cesspools.
I'll bet many have never interacted with a Mexican or Mexican families.

I love the Mexican people and their culture. It has been a big focus of my artwork since I attended Art school in San Mieguel.
They are hard working people who are family oriented, community oriented and generous to a fault. Just beautiful people.

[RKP5637]

12. Well said!!!! n/t

[RadiationTherapy]

5. Just for the record, I think "deplorables" is a stupid insult that makes dems look childish.

It does nothing to further our cause and galvanizes the opposition. It is a part of why Clinton lost the election - a very dumb move by her.

As to your question: It is probably because of a combination of media portrayals and real-life interactions that were colored by pre-conceived notions. Just like liberals' impressions of conservatives.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

10. Just for the record

Just for the record, I think "deplorables" is a stupid insult that makes dems look childish.

Just for the record xenophobes, racists, anti-semites, sexual predators, and homophobes are deplorable. Michael Kinsley was right when he opined a gaffe is when a politician tells the truth. In this instance Hillary perhaps should have lied with the same fervor as her opponent.

[LanternWaste]

15. Accurate observations are often mistaken as stupid insults

Accurate observations are often mistaken as stupid insults if it strengthens a self-defined narrative.

We often rationalize our mistaken inference by alleging a post-hoc-ergo-prompter-hoc fallacy to suport our premise.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

19. Could you please elaborate?

I know what a post-hoc-ergo-prompter-hoc fallacy is; the rooster's crowing makes the sun rise and not vice versa.

How does that relate to the current instance?

We have no problem saying the Germans who empowered Hitler were very bad people. Wouldn't it be a form of soft bigotry to exculpate those Americans who voted for Trump?

[oasis]

18. "Deplorables" is an accurate description. To call them "vermin" would

probably fall along the lines of being a "stupid insult".

[DemocratSinceBirth]

21. I would never, ever call them that. That comes close to calling them Lebensunwertes Leben

Oddly, that's what the hard core contingent of them feel about other groups.

[oasis]

24. Yup. On that note, "Deplorables" take pride in being politacally

incorrect. They're comfortable with Trump making insensitivity great again.

[whathehell]

27. Agreed..

It's actually a refined insult...What would the poster have preferred Hillary Clinton call them... scumbags ?

[oasis]

32. Hillary used the term to characterize the uncivilized behavior of

many Trump supporters. With the help of the MSM, it was blown out of proportion. Sadly, some DUers continue to use it as an excuse to bludgeon our Democratic nominee.

[whathehell]

33. Of course..

but DUers are calling Hillary "deplorable"? I haven't seen this.

[oasis]

39. I edited my above post to clarify.

The ill advised use of the word "deplorables" possibly cost Hillary the election. That is the assertion of a few DUers.

[yallerdawg]

26. It's deplorable to pass along rightwing spin.

In that speech, the propagandists - as usual - culled one sentence and made it a meme.

It grieves me when "Democrats" jump on board the bullshit train.

[treestar]

31. Are we galvanized by being called

"libtards"
"libturds"
snowflakes
pussies
weaklings
parasites
"dumbocrats"
"demonrats"

[uponit7771]

36. wow, really?! that's what's important about this issue?!

[Chiquitita]

6. For the life of me, I don't know.

They sure love the foods. Fresh, lovingly prepared foods, foods with fiber, vegetables, and vitamins, produced and harvested by agricultural workers who have Mexican roots too. White superiority complex? Lack of introspection? Small hearts?

[HopeAgain]

7. FEAR of the "other"

There is no rational explanation for racism. You cannot explain irrationality with reason.

[unblock]

9. it's nothing personal. they hate everyone.

their hate is easily directed at the whim of their authoritarian leaders.

remember "freedom fries"? when they decided to hate on french fries because france decided not to participate in shrub's Iraq debacle?

their hate was readily focused to very popular american food that came from belgian cuisine because they were angry at the french.

[RDANGELO]

11. They have been conditioned by Fox News and right wing radio to view our society in terms of groups

people opposed to one another. It comes from the tribal human instinct which is why it is so successful.

[madokie]

13. We have a great Mexican Resturant we go too

although the food is to die for, the reason we go is the people who work there. Awesome Mexican Americans. We love them

[Lithos]

14. Spanish and Affirmative Action

Hispanics are the largest minority in this country, large enough to have significant areas where the Spanish language has a large percentage of speakers. They view Bilingualism as a burden and not an opportunity to expand your horizons. It's also a case where they feel the government mandated bilingualism and affirmative action programs are a strike against them and a form of institutional racism.

L-

[alarimer]

16. Everybody's got to have somebody to look down on

Fear of the "other", whomever that is. Right now, it's Mexicans or other brown people (collectively lumped together as potential, if not actual, terrorists). In the past, it was the Irish or Italians or Chinese. The thing is, most Americans do not realize they are being played (I don't get why they can't see this as well as you and I can). While their attention is diverted to the latest 'bad guy', their own pockets are being picked by the very people who demonize these people.

It's the world's oldest story: "us" vs "them."

I love other languages and other cultures (well, most of them- I am not ever eating haggis, for example). I don't understand what is so scary about hearing Spanish or Chinese or whatever else being spoken around you. Why the simple act of making government forms accessible to others is such a horrible thing. In my office (a state agency) a colleague recently won an award for helping the department design an outreach program for Hispanics. The idea was, some state parks are extremely popular with recent immigrants from Mexico and central America, but the rangers had difficulty community with people to, for example, not sit in poison ivy. (Or kill snakes, most of which are harmless here, but not where they come from). A simple matter of training some staff to speak Spanish or to make signs bilingual is simply a response to changing demographics. I thought it was a brilliant thing to do and simply common sense (what if there was a medical emergency and no one able to communicate?)

One of the hallmarks of the conservative mindset is resistance to and fear of change. And that may be the single biggest obstacle we face.

[MineralMan]

17. They hate everyone that isn't them or that doesn't look like them.

That simplifies the hating for them.

[LonePirate]

20. Mexicans and Hispanics, in general, are simply the latest victims of this nation's eternal racism.

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The ignorant right-wingers in this country always need someone to hate in order to prop up their own miserable existence. When you combine that with a rapidly changing economy (from one based on agriculture and manufacturing to one based on information and services), then those who allow themselves to be left behind will look for scapegoats. Nowadays, it's Mexicans who are serving as the scapegoats for those hateful people looking for someone to blame.

[treestar]

29. +1

They just can't feel good about themselves until they find someone they can feel "better" than, and all they've got is race/ethnicity and their ancestors came earlier.

[uponit7771]

37. +1

[Orsino]

22. Because they fear what they do not understand...

...and they also fear the work involved in understanding.

[HoneyBadger]

23. I used to work in Juarez and was always amazed at the fuss and fear of the cartels in the news

No one there cares. Either Americans or Mexicans. It really is all so exaggerated.

What you should understand is that Mexican society is very structured by class. In America, you are meeting the poor people, the immigrants, who tend to be the nicest people. If you work in Mexico, you meet the middle class, who do not like the poor Mexicans any more than the Deplorables do. I have never met a rich Mexican, they are the 1% of the 1%, and they own and run the country.

[mindem]

25. Because

they are a potential Democratic voting block.

[treestar]

28. and he was wrong, the ones coming are "the best"

the ones who want to do better for themselves and their families. They are just like the Irish, Italians, etc. who came in the early 20th century or the 19th century. Or the English and Irish who came to be colonists (well in that case, there were criminals being kicked out of England). This is a nation of immigrants and the most recent do the least paying and toughest jobs.

[Tikki]

30. It bothers trump and it is not really about the first generation Mexican in the U.S..

it is about their children they work hard to send to College and these students that excel in school..

These children that succeed so spectacularly.

Their pride in their heritage.

A child that grows up to be a District Judge and a Congressperson, etc.

And they do all this without greasing on daddy's money.

Tikki

[jmg257]

34. Is it "Mexicans" so much, as "undocumented"? Supposedly 'law & order' are high up on their list.

[tenderfoot]

35. As a resident of Southern California, I find Mexicans to be the least annoying people in the area.

eom

[DemocratSinceBirth]

38. I am pretty chill with all minorities here.

There are times when I'm the only white guy or one of a handful on the bus or in a room.

[workinclasszero]

40. I have known, when to school with and worked with mexican people all my life.

You will never find a more hard working people who love and cherish their families and friends.

It all comes down to skin color and hatred of the "other. "

Vile republican tribalism...racial hate.