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kpete

(71,959 posts)
Tue Jan 31, 2017, 08:46 AM Jan 2017

Her husband was murdered in the San Bernardino terrorist attack -Her message to Trump is going viral

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Renee Wetzel’s husband Michael was one of the victims gunned down by radicalized Islamic terrorists during the San Bernardino massacre on December 2, 2015. Fourteen people died and 22 were injured. Michael Wetzel worked worked for the San Bernardino environmental health department. His life was taken tragically and some would think his widow would have reason to side with Donald Trump’s Muslim ban. She doesn’t.

In her response to a statement by Trump’s Press Secretary Spicer who used the San Bernardino shooting to justify banning 220 million people, Renee Wetzel came from a place of love adding a Christian bible passage. Here is her Facebook post.

Renee Wetzel

This has been heavy on my heart the last few days and I have felt the need to say something. As the widow of someone who was murdered by terrorists, I can understand that sometimes it is easy to give into your fears and to want to blame someone or something for what is happening. However, regardless of your political leanings, Trump closing our borders to certain countries is a basic human rights issue. Banning entire groups of people whose only crime is where they were born is not the right answer. This is against everything our country stands for. Not all Muslims are terrorists and we, as a country, should not be lumping them together like they are.

#ChooseLove

Matthew 25:31-46



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Her husband was murdered in the San Bernardino terrorist attack -Her message to Trump is going viral (Original Post) kpete Jan 2017 OP
That is a brave woman - on so many levels JDC Jan 2017 #1
#love titaniumsalute Jan 2017 #2
...two words......"ChooseLove" Stuart G Jan 2017 #3
I am proud of her. Doreen Jan 2017 #4
Yes a well developed sense of justice treestar Jan 2017 #5
Courageous woman! maddiemom Jan 2017 #6
This needs to go viral! Initech Jan 2017 #7
K&R Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 2017 #8
Perhaps more to the point is that PoindexterOglethorpe Jan 2017 #9
The bible passage is about helping those in severe need muriel_volestrangler Jan 2017 #10
Interesting 66ty6 Jan 2017 #13
People can have faith and also think. Fantastic Anarchist Feb 2017 #17
Faith, by definition, is believing something without evidence. 66ty6 Feb 2017 #19
All I'm saying is that a person of faith can also think critically. Fantastic Anarchist Feb 2017 #20
So right she is madokie Jan 2017 #11
Brings tears to my eyes ailsagirl Jan 2017 #12
What an amazing woman.. Cha Jan 2017 #14
A Good and Brave Woman! burrowowl Jan 2017 #15
Thank you for sharing eom LittleGirl Feb 2017 #16
The key phrase in all of this is: ''gunned down''. Where did they get the guns? YOHABLO Feb 2017 #18

Stuart G

(38,410 posts)
3. ...two words......"ChooseLove"
Tue Jan 31, 2017, 09:00 AM
Jan 2017

Say more......than.......
everything....Drumpf has ever said..
Trump will be gone
New President coming in..
Trump in history bin

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
4. I am proud of her.
Tue Jan 31, 2017, 12:36 PM
Jan 2017

Even through her pain of losing her husband she does not blame an entire religion or race for the actions of that one man.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
5. Yes a well developed sense of justice
Tue Jan 31, 2017, 12:38 PM
Jan 2017

you have to have that to be able to still be objective with a factor like that in your life.

maddiemom

(5,106 posts)
6. Courageous woman!
Tue Jan 31, 2017, 01:31 PM
Jan 2017

I hope that a few more of those few who suffered the effects of actual "Islamic terrorism" will be selfless enough to follow her example

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,812 posts)
9. Perhaps more to the point is that
Tue Jan 31, 2017, 03:46 PM
Jan 2017

the two who did the killings, one was born in this country, and the other came from Pakistan, not one of the seven countries Trump is banning travel from.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,265 posts)
10. The bible passage is about helping those in severe need
Tue Jan 31, 2017, 05:22 PM
Jan 2017
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+25:31-46

34 “Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’

37 “Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’

40 “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’

and damnation for those who didn't.
 

66ty6

(12 posts)
13. Interesting
Tue Jan 31, 2017, 06:25 PM
Jan 2017

There are many amazing things in this world. One of the most astonishing is that many people still appear to believe in talking snakes and asses, global floods, virgins magically impregnated, invisible undetectable gods up in the sky, men living inside fish, eternal paradise/heaven, prophets riding horses up to heaven and dead guys waking up after 3 days.

But then people who substitute faith for thinking have no intellectual horsepower anyway.

Fantastic Anarchist

(7,309 posts)
17. People can have faith and also think.
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 07:58 AM
Feb 2017

Your post is antithetical to the whole point of this thread. It's a very sad post, indeed.

 

66ty6

(12 posts)
19. Faith, by definition, is believing something without evidence.
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 07:43 PM
Feb 2017

I have no idea how a critically thinking person can possibly embrace a belief system that has no basis in observable or
detectable evidence. If you know a way, please enlighten me.
How is my post "sad"?

Fantastic Anarchist

(7,309 posts)
20. All I'm saying is that a person of faith can also think critically.
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 08:54 PM
Feb 2017

I'm not saying that they can directly use their faith to reason. I'm just saying that one can both reason and have faith.

Your post is sad because it's dogmatic and assumes that a person can't have faith and be able to think critically - that they can't be separate. It's ironically interesting that you can make such an absolute statement without any shred of "observable or detectable evidence."

It's saddening because, even though I'm not religious, I can still respect people of faith, and not denigrate them. I can also understand that most people of faith can and do think critically in their everyday life. I can understand that one doesn't preclude the other.

I think it's okay to question people of faith in a respectful manner. To make such blanket pronouncements about a whole group of people is indistinguishable from those fundamentalists who scream about how gays cannot be good people, or that women who have had abortions are bad people, or that people of different beliefs or no beliefs at all, are bad people. Of course, these proclamations are based on no "observable or detectable evidence," as well. They also denigrate, with blanket pronouncements, whole groups of people.

Both sides are fundamentalists and dogmatic. They serve no purpose but to fuel hate and foment an "us vs. them" outlook on life. These blanket insults do not serve to offer solutions or help the working class, poor people, the disenfranchised, or minorities in any meaningful way.

Leo Tolstoy was a Christian anarchist. This didn't preclude him from making great and reasoned contributions to anarchist philosophy. He inspired Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., and Gandhi, with whom he was friends with. I don't think anybody would dare to try to make an argument that either men couldn't think critically.

Your post is more than just sad. It's tragic.

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