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[still_one]

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[angrychair]

1. As long as Washington is included

Plus the our brothers and sisters in Oregon

[still_one]

7. Far as I am concerned all the blue states. This is insane what they are doing

[lapfog_1]

2. I would like to take Oregon and Washington and Hawaii with us.

The Pacific States of America

[KittyWampus]

3. It is literally stupid to talk about it. Furthermore, it's headed by a guy in Russia.

[pintobean]

26. +1 You're being generous.

[KittyWampus]

4. Calexit is a rightwing meme. It's being pushed by a guy in Russia. I think DU

I think DU, its Administrators and posters need to accept that and refuse to allow lobbying for it the same way we can't push for overturning Roe v Wade or allowing gay marriage.

[still_one]

10. ignoring the Senate rules, and bypassing the Democrats, what meme is that?

[angrychair]

20. Sorry, while that may be true

I know nothing of it and it's a big topic here in Washington.

I have no desire to live in Trump's Ayn Rand/dominionist dystopian hellscape.

Right now this cult holds the executive and legislative branches of federal government, about to hold a majority of seats on SC, majority of governorships and a majority of state legislatures. Not to mention a vast and twisted knot of gerrymandered voting districts and voter suppression laws in their favor.

We are at a tipping point to either cut our loses and walk away from a union that doesn't want us (those majority of Democratic votes in last were mostly in CA,WA, OR, some in NY) or continue to fight for even former blue states that don't want us like PA or MI.

[Madam45for2923]

25. Yes! This! Russia loves/endorses all the exits people are putting out there

[DemocratSinceBirth]

33. Russians love sex. Should we stop having it?

[JustAnotherGen]

29. Plus 1000

[angrychair]

23. In CA leaves

It won't matter. As an economic block, CA, WA, OR and HI represent roughly 20% of the nation's economic output and an even more significant amount of its agricultural output. Pacific coast states are roughly 20% of US population.
The new union of pacific states would become the 5th largest economy in the world with the highest agricultural and technological output in the world.

Admittedly, the impact to the remaining US would be unfortunate, especially for the republican "taker" states in the South like Mississippi or Alabama, that take far more in federal dollars than they contribute (vast majority of people on food stamps are white despite the memes).

I am very confident that if people ever get their heads out of their ass that reunification would be possible.

[California_Republic]

6. I'd rather we lead than leave.

[still_one]

12. If they allow state's rights? They have lied about everything, and contradict themselves

[Igel]

18. "States rights" is pointless.

Each side uses it to defend what they want locally when they don't like the federal government.

Don't like '70's style speed limits or federal LGBT regs? States rights!!!

Don't like fed pot laws or immigration policy? States rights!

Remove the hypocrisy and then it's possible to talk. Otherwise we all just self-righteously scream at other Americans.

[still_one]

24. The state's rights memo was a red state memo to push racist and segregationist policies

I was responding to a post that California should lead instead of exiting

California already said it would fight the draconian Muslim immigration ban, the anti-environmental agenda etc., but there is no doubt in my mind that these thugs that now control the government, who were big proponents of "states rights", will now forgot that.

My post was merely pointing out their hypocrisy

As for hypocrisy, there is no comparison between the two. It is a double standard. The Democrats are held to a higher standard than the republicans, and the republicans are held to no standard

[Blue_Tires]

8. Putin's really hoping for it, too...

[JTFrog]

9. I don't know about Russia's CalExit, but Canada wants CA, OR, WA states to join them. nt

[still_one]

14. That sounds good to me

[denbot]

11. That's Putin's goal.

I will stand my ground, and defend my country from all enemy's, foreign and domestic.

[martigras]

13. And take Illinois too!

I am so ready to leave Rump's America. As an old timer I want to see what it would be like to live in a true blue controlled collection of states before I die. Red states can keep their guns and their religious faith, charter schools, right to work laws and all the other corporate baloney. A better world is out there, we need to seize it.

[meow2u3]

15. Very bad idea

If California secedes, we don't have a snowball's chance in hell to regain the Presidency or the House.

[rumdude]

16. Putin's pushing it

[Tommy_Carcetti]

17. I think Putin hopes it's a possibility. nt

[BigDemVoter]

19. Same here.

But I recognize that it's only a pipe dream. It could NEVER happen. Seriously. But wouldn't it be wonderful to tell tRump nation to fuck off?

[Hell Hath No Fury]

21. No, not interested.

Research who is behind the current Calexit movement. This Californian wants NOTHING to do with it and no American should.

[still_one]

32. Too many posts have indicated what you are saying, so I will self-delete the OP

[Vinnie From Indy]

22. Calexit is a right wing meme!

The whole thing is bullshit!

[still_one]

27. I don't know much about it, but regardless, I am also well aware it isn't going to happen

realistically

[Botany]

28. Why do Putin's work for him?

n/t

[delisen]

31. Calexit led by person in Russia not California.

Better that California and like-minded states join forces.

[still_one]

34. I will self-delete and lock the thread. Thanks