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Wed Feb 1, 2017, 12:32 PM

Trump: I will tell McConnell to 'go nuclear' if Democrats hold up Gorsuch nomination

President Donald Trump said he will urge Senate Republicans to scrap filibuster rules, or take the so-called "nuclear option," if Democrats in the increasingly tense chamber use them to block his nomination of Neil Gorsuch to the Supreme Court.
After Trump appointed Gorsuch, the 49-year-old conservative appeals judge, to the top U.S. court Tuesday night, Democrats signaled they could delay the nomination. If they filibuster, Republicans, who have 52 Senate seats, would need 60 votes to confirm him unless they cut that rule.
Trump told reporters Wednesday that he would encourage Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., to take that route, which would require only a simple majority.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.cnbc.com/amp/2017/02/01/trump-i-will-tell-mcconnell-to-go-nuclear-if-democrats-hold-up-gorsuch-nomination.html?client=ms-android-boost-us

Democrats must stand steady and firm

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Reply Trump: I will tell McConnell to 'go nuclear' if Democrats hold up Gorsuch nomination (Original post)
orangecrush Feb 2017 OP
Rustyeye77 Feb 2017 #1
dhill926 Feb 2017 #2
orangecrush Feb 2017 #7
starshine00 Feb 2017 #12
orangecrush Feb 2017 #19
starshine00 Feb 2017 #21
orangecrush Feb 2017 #26
starshine00 Feb 2017 #27
orangecrush Feb 2017 #30
starshine00 Feb 2017 #32
femmocrat Feb 2017 #3
BSdetect Feb 2017 #4
NewJeffCT Feb 2017 #5
orangecrush Feb 2017 #8
Johonny Feb 2017 #6
orangecrush Feb 2017 #9
Initech Feb 2017 #11
orangecrush Feb 2017 #20
starshine00 Feb 2017 #13
gratuitous Feb 2017 #10
ProfessorGAC Feb 2017 #14
C_U_L8R Feb 2017 #28
woodsprite Feb 2017 #29
athena Feb 2017 #15
mvd Feb 2017 #16
athena Feb 2017 #17
orangecrush Feb 2017 #23
spiderpig Feb 2017 #18
orangecrush Feb 2017 #24
treestar Feb 2017 #22
Takket Feb 2017 #25
malaise Feb 2017 #31
Volaris Feb 2017 #33
malaise Feb 2017 #34

Response to orangecrush (Original post)

Wed Feb 1, 2017, 12:32 PM

1. Well, screw you DT

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Response to orangecrush (Original post)

Wed Feb 1, 2017, 12:33 PM

2. and they will...

and then it's over. Only way to reverse this shit, is at the ballot box. And you better believe they're gonna try and fix that too.

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Response to dhill926 (Reply #2)

Wed Feb 1, 2017, 12:42 PM

7. Afraid

You are right.

Massive protest may be all that wiil work.

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Response to orangecrush (Reply #7)

Wed Feb 1, 2017, 12:48 PM

12. I believe the concept of protest is lost on Trump

 

the concept of the constitution is lost on Trump.

I think we need to ring the ears off our congresspeople's telephones for the next two years and make them fear for their political lives. Protestors are just the great unwashed to Trump.

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Response to starshine00 (Reply #12)

Wed Feb 1, 2017, 01:08 PM

19. National strike

They won't like it when it affects profits.

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Response to orangecrush (Reply #19)

Wed Feb 1, 2017, 01:10 PM

21. sounds good to me

 

but when you are talking about people with kids who can't afford that drastic of a measure...

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Response to starshine00 (Reply #21)

Wed Feb 1, 2017, 01:13 PM

26. Their kids

Won't have a future if Trump isn't stopped.

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Response to orangecrush (Reply #26)

Wed Feb 1, 2017, 01:17 PM

27. they might not eat tomorrow without a job

 

I went to a food bank the other night and it was pure insanity. The organizers were running around sweating bullets, they had to give out tickets for a 'lottery' after the people who'd gotten places in line got their food because there were so many people, so not everyone was going to get food. I had gotten there just in time to get one of the actual line numbers. A woman sat down next to me frantic because she'd never been there before & didn't know what to do & now was late & didn't get a number, she was assigned to be part of the lottery for leftover food, I asked her if she had kids, she said 'just one' so I handed her my number and walked out. The whole situation was so depressing...I know how to survive and have eaten my share of dumpster-dived food. I don't think people like this woman are going to come out for a national strike. But a percentage will. I am not saying it is a bad idea at all, I just think people are so desperate now they can't take anymore losses.

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Response to starshine00 (Reply #27)

Wed Feb 1, 2017, 06:24 PM

30. I lived in shelters

I know what you mean.

Unions,do have,strike funds though.

A week or two of all the major unions striking would bring Trump crashing to eatth.

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Response to orangecrush (Reply #30)

Wed Feb 1, 2017, 06:53 PM

32. I did not know this

 

I have never been in a union. That is good to know, can they possibly have enough funds to cover a nationwide strike? Trump will probably just demand everyone be fired. I know so many of my railroad worker cousins who are in unions voted for Trump. They do this kind of crap all the time. My brother is a republican and he is in a union but votes for republicans all the time (though he hated Trump).

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Response to orangecrush (Original post)

Wed Feb 1, 2017, 12:35 PM

3. Democrats have to fight this, tooth and nail.

If any of them wavers, we will REMEMBER!

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Response to orangecrush (Original post)

Wed Feb 1, 2017, 12:36 PM

4. The puppet's puppet will conform

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Response to orangecrush (Original post)

Wed Feb 1, 2017, 12:37 PM

5. I thought tanking the filibuster

would be something that needs to be done at the start of a senate session?

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Response to NewJeffCT (Reply #5)

Wed Feb 1, 2017, 12:43 PM

8. That's what I thoughr

Apparently I was wrong.

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Response to orangecrush (Original post)

Wed Feb 1, 2017, 12:40 PM

6. Fine, but if Dems take both houses in 2018 they should impeach Gorsuch

because he was improperly vetted...

They want petty then get petty.

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Response to Johonny (Reply #6)

Wed Feb 1, 2017, 12:44 PM

9. That

Would be a thing of beauty.

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Response to Johonny (Reply #6)

Wed Feb 1, 2017, 12:47 PM

11. Can you impeach a SCOTUS justice?

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Response to Initech (Reply #11)

Wed Feb 1, 2017, 01:09 PM

20. Yes

Though it is rare.

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Response to Johonny (Reply #6)

Wed Feb 1, 2017, 12:50 PM

13. great idea

 

I have never felt more optimistic about taking back Congress, this is why I don't think that the left should expend all our energy on protest at this admin who are tone deaf to it.

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Response to orangecrush (Original post)

Wed Feb 1, 2017, 12:46 PM

10. Just invoke the McConnell Rule

Remember that Sen. McConnell said that President Obama didn't represent the true will of the American people because his party lost seats in the 2014 election, even though President Obama had won re-election with a majority vote in 2012. President Trump, by the same token (no pun intended), similarly does not represent the true will of the American people, because not only did he fail to win a majority of the popular vote in 2016, he didn't capture even a plurality of the vote, and his party was outpolled in the national popular vote. Therefore, the Senate is bound under the McConnell Rule to refuse even a committee hearing for Judge Gorsuch.

That's how things work now, isn't it? We can't go against the ironclad rules laid down by the Senate Majority Leader can we?

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Response to gratuitous (Reply #10)

Wed Feb 1, 2017, 12:50 PM

14. He'll Tell McConnell?

He's giving order to Congress? And those idiots are ok with this? So much for co-equal branches of government.

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Response to ProfessorGAC (Reply #14)

Wed Feb 1, 2017, 01:18 PM

28. Mitch is Trump's errand boy now.

How's that feel, McTurtle ??

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Response to C_U_L8R (Reply #28)

Wed Feb 1, 2017, 02:00 PM

29. Turtle's his piss-boy and he's waiting for the shake. n/t

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Response to gratuitous (Reply #10)

Wed Feb 1, 2017, 12:51 PM

15. Brilliant.

I love it.

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Response to gratuitous (Reply #10)

Wed Feb 1, 2017, 12:53 PM

16. Exactly!

I wish this could be an OP so more see it.

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Response to mvd (Reply #16)

Wed Feb 1, 2017, 12:54 PM

17. Yes, it should be an OP,

titled "The McConnell Rule." JMO.

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Response to gratuitous (Reply #10)

Wed Feb 1, 2017, 01:10 PM

23. Should be an op

I agree.

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Response to orangecrush (Original post)

Wed Feb 1, 2017, 12:54 PM

18. Little Donald gets really excited over the concept of anything nuclear

doesn't he?

We are so screwn.

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Response to spiderpig (Reply #18)

Wed Feb 1, 2017, 01:11 PM

24. Yeah

That was my first thought exactly.

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Response to orangecrush (Original post)

Wed Feb 1, 2017, 01:10 PM

22. So he thinks he has a say?

Idiot.

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Response to orangecrush (Original post)

Wed Feb 1, 2017, 01:12 PM

25. Good. If this bozo is going into SCOTUS this is how it should happen

Our Dem leaders will be judged by us in how helpful they are to the GOP. They don't need any help so don't give it. Make them go nuclear. It makes gorsuch less legitimate. Don't give anything Trump does legitimacy.

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Response to orangecrush (Original post)

Wed Feb 1, 2017, 06:25 PM

31. The executive is not supposed to give orders to the Senate

WTF!

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Response to malaise (Reply #31)

Wed Feb 1, 2017, 07:30 PM

33. Clearly, no one's explained to you how Trump's New White Empire is going to work.

I say, if Senate Republicans are dumb enough now to cut their own throats 2 or 4 years from now by getting rid of the filibuster, then let's be smart enough to just let them do the bidding of the Madman. Yes, it will hurt between now and then, and yea, the Courts specifically and Justice as both a concept and a department will require a deep cleaning after but if we dig our feet into the real work that this Nation needs AND MEAN IT THIS TIME, we will still be better coming out the other side than when we started.

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Response to Volaris (Reply #33)

Wed Feb 1, 2017, 07:36 PM

34. True but for that to happen the clean up wil have to take place among Dems as well

I can't process this mess

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