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ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 08:56 PM Feb 2017

How likely is war with Iran?

Personally, I don't think nearly enough time has elapsed since Iraq. No one has forgotten how awful that war was or that it was premised on a lie. So the WH might be salivating over the idea of war, but you can be damned sure that congress is going to put the kybosh on those plans.

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meadowlark5

(2,795 posts)
1. I have been busy today and haven't listened to the Trump shit show today
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 08:59 PM
Feb 2017

Why are they threatening Iran? I know Iran is always a country to keep an eye on, but what have they done to cause Flynn and dumpy to put them on notice? Because they banned US citizens entry into their country so little dumpy wumpy got mad?

jmg257

(11,996 posts)
2. Ballistic missle launches..
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 09:02 PM
Feb 2017
The White House put Iran "on notice" on Wednesday for test-firing a ballistic missile and said it was reviewing how to respond, abruptly adopting an aggressive posture toward Tehran that could raise tensions in the region.


http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-iran-idUSKBN15G5ED?feedType=RSS&

toddwv

(2,830 posts)
3. Just speculation
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 09:02 PM
Feb 2017

but some people are suggesting that Russia wants cover for their actions in the Ukraine.

Another reason would be to distract from Trump's agenda.
And then there's the fact that the right-wing really really wants war with Iran.

Big Blue Marble

(4,978 posts)
8. Unfortunately, Trump is chomping at the bid to use "his military."
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 09:06 PM
Feb 2017

He has already threatened Chicago, Mexico and China. Today Flynn threatened Iran.
Mathis had to back him off of what he really wanted to say.

C_U_L8R

(44,889 posts)
5. I think we'll be in a war by June
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 09:03 PM
Feb 2017

Maybe Iran, maybe somewhere else.
Clearly the Trump team is circle jerking in anticipation.
And a fuckload of people will die.

Equinox Moon

(6,344 posts)
6. We know damn well trumpland wants war & it is horrible.
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 09:04 PM
Feb 2017

He thrives on chaos. It is "fun" for him. I have known some mentally ill people and a few sociopaths. They enjoy hurting and causing chaos. That is why trump said everything was going so well with is exec. Muslim ban order. For him, the chaos was a good thing. He and bannon and the rest of them enjoy hurting others.

Terrible times we are in.

I am going to go knit another pink pussy hat tonight. It is feels good to be a walking protest out in public.

 

nikibatts

(2,198 posts)
7. This is the green light for Bibi to attack Iran whenever it suits him.
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 09:04 PM
Feb 2017

I'm thinking that Russia has promised Trump to not back Iran if this happens and Trump will reward him with lifting sanctions. They will link this to security for Israel and therefore will not get much blowback from US voters.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
9. I'm also not sure who would let us
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 09:12 PM
Feb 2017

stage the war on their land. Saudi, Kuwait? Launch from ships in the Caspian? Certainly not from Iraq! I could see using ships firing from the Gulf, but Saudi would need to give the ok. Last time with Iraq they were eager to get rid of Saddam, but this time?

Victor_c3

(3,557 posts)
12. I believe the Saudis would eagerly give the ok
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 09:39 PM
Feb 2017

They have been fighting for regional supremacy for decades (or more). War with Iran would absolutely secure that position for them.

The Iraqi government might go for it. I've been out of the loop with their politics for the last several years, but I know before isis came to be that much of the insurgsncy was backed by Iran.

superpatriotman

(6,232 posts)
13. Given that Iran has done nothing to us
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 09:41 PM
Feb 2017

Nor is a threat to us
Nor have they attacked any neighbors
Nor have they done anything substantively wrong

I'd say about 100%

Initech

(99,909 posts)
15. I think a civil war is more likely than a foreign war at this point.
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 09:47 PM
Feb 2017

We're more divided now than we were in the 1860s, and we're not getting any closer to being United. Trump is just the tip of the iceberg.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
16. The other question this brings to my mind
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 01:32 AM
Feb 2017

is about the list of countries the neocons had during W's reign. Remember that? Wasn't it Schwarzkopf who let that out of the bag? I want to know if Iran is part of the same list or some brand new one dreamed up by the new right wingers.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
17. Very likely, Probably not feet on the ground but airstrikes against Iran.
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 01:50 AM
Feb 2017

Unfortunately military action against Iran is inevitable for 4 reasosns:

1) Trump/Bannon will reason that it will galvanize support and justify their anti Muslim bigotry

2) Putin wants it because it will divide the west and dilute American resources making intervention in Ukraine impossible.

3) Netanyahu wants it because he is in trouble and wants to keep the region in constant warfare so as to make it appear that Israel is a stable and rational island in a mid eastern sea of chaos

4) Saudia Arabia and the Gulf States want it because it will take Iranian oil off the market, disrupt the Straits of Hormuz and push oil back up to $ 100 per barrel.

The Saudi Minister for Oil was on NPR today ecstatic about Trump and cheering the tearing up of the global Climate Control agreement. They desperately want to disrupt the current trend away from carbon based energy before the sustainable non carbon production can be ramped up and replace carbon based oil.

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