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OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 05:59 AM Feb 2017

Overnight Secret Service Firings - escorted out in middle of night

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by NancyBlueINOklahoma (a host of the General Discussion forum).

Can only find this on twitter, but from Steve Clemons, a reliable reporter.

Here is his twitter stream




The EEOB is Eisenhower Executive Office Building, the large building just west of the White House.













He goes on to tweet he can't give much more as he is boarding a flight from Tokyo to WashingtonDC
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Overnight Secret Service Firings - escorted out in middle of night (Original Post) OKNancy Feb 2017 OP
I have to say... chillfactor Feb 2017 #1
I agree with this assessment Skittles Feb 2017 #47
How Did He Learn Of This If He Was In Tokyo?....nt global1 Feb 2017 #2
a fired agent called him on the phone OKNancy Feb 2017 #3
Bringing in his own Palace Guard, I guess. Buns_of_Fire Feb 2017 #4
my thoughts as well.... chillfactor Feb 2017 #5
Eric Prince atreides1 Feb 2017 #7
I think Zoonart Feb 2017 #36
Leaks, thats why. Dustlawyer Feb 2017 #25
And also that one agent meadowlander Feb 2017 #52
Bringing in his own security to thwart attempts to impeach and/or arrest by FBI for treason? MgtPA Feb 2017 #6
Bingo orangecrush Feb 2017 #8
Yes. nt GliderGuider Feb 2017 #10
Wont work, they would just be arrested and charged if they tried to interfere with a legal arrest. cstanleytech Feb 2017 #11
if you can find someone to prosecute him mdbl Feb 2017 #14
Oath of office, just words with no meaning to tRump. He's SammyWinstonJack Feb 2017 #30
+ 1,000 Achilleaze Feb 2017 #12
That's a tactic used by fascists to consolidate power. Ilsa Feb 2017 #15
+1 uponit7771 Feb 2017 #23
Wow myrna minx Feb 2017 #9
Maybe one or more were the source of the leaks? randome Feb 2017 #13
Or just suspected of it. JHB Feb 2017 #37
Interesting development, especially since these are managerial positions. demmiblue Feb 2017 #16
Likely cut off agent's pension too. no_hypocrisy Feb 2017 #17
I'm trying to figure out why anyone could be forced to resign? KewlKat Feb 2017 #18
Seems like the Secret Service would have some kind of job security mandate brush Feb 2017 #33
I'm scared Botany Feb 2017 #19
Been there since 11/9/16. I cover it up with REALLY PISSED OFF. n/t rzemanfl Feb 2017 #20
I can't believe what I am seeing Botany Feb 2017 #22
Out with the old SS, in with the new. Buckeye_Democrat Feb 2017 #21
Night of the Long Knives, coming soon.... lastlib Feb 2017 #24
Little Donny's acting just like his hero Vladimir. We should be happy he hasn't pulled the Squinch Feb 2017 #26
Not fluent in German? Loyal to the constitution? Barack_America Feb 2017 #27
Both. SammyWinstonJack Feb 2017 #32
Bet it has to do with leaks. Kingofalldems Feb 2017 #28
They think they can control everyone in government but,they can't coco22 Feb 2017 #54
Hitler's personal bodyguard vlyons Feb 2017 #29
"Is that a gun or are you just happy to see me?" randome Feb 2017 #41
Can you say 'paranoid'? nolabels Feb 2017 #31
The hospital I worked for gave you the option to resign TNNurse Feb 2017 #34
The piss boy is really digging himself in, like a tick. Mc Mike Feb 2017 #35
It is always someone else that is the problem and needs to be removed. democratisphere Feb 2017 #38
The Secret Service has become incompetent over the years, the stories are so incredible that it braddy Feb 2017 #39
Seeing who's in charge, I don't think this was a matter of mere incompetence. Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2017 #42
Trump wants his own SS security workinclasszero Feb 2017 #40
Don't they have civil service protections? alarimer Feb 2017 #43
Well, the Secret Service is still in the business of investigating financial crimes. blogslut Feb 2017 #44
I suspect it has to do with that security fiasco in Philly hack89 Feb 2017 #45
Yeah, well, maybe. OilemFirchen Feb 2017 #46
Twitler is a fool. phylny Feb 2017 #48
Well gee whiz I really hope this doesn't put his safety at risk. TrekLuver Feb 2017 #49
President Russian Puppet is up to something! Rex Feb 2017 #50
Let's hope that Trump hires agents who are as competent as the rest of the people he hires - lol! kerry-is-my-prez Feb 2017 #51
Taking the lead from Kim Jong Un? SeattleVet Feb 2017 #53
SO much for Clemons being reliable... jmg257 Feb 2017 #55
I am waiting for him to go .. coco22 Feb 2017 #56

chillfactor

(7,584 posts)
1. I have to say...
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 06:07 AM
Feb 2017

if I was in the Secret Service I would have escorted myself out when the orange man won the election...I cannot see anyone wanting to guard an egotistical idiot.

Skittles

(153,202 posts)
47. I agree with this assessment
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 06:52 PM
Feb 2017

the man is illegitimate and DISGUSTING

global1

(25,272 posts)
2. How Did He Learn Of This If He Was In Tokyo?....nt
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 06:11 AM
Feb 2017

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
3. a fired agent called him on the phone
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 06:13 AM
Feb 2017

He tweeted that, but I didn't post that one

Buns_of_Fire

(17,197 posts)
4. Bringing in his own Palace Guard, I guess.
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 06:16 AM
Feb 2017

He probably doesn't want people sworn to protect the President as much as he wants people sworn to protect Donald Trump.

chillfactor

(7,584 posts)
5. my thoughts as well....
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 06:19 AM
Feb 2017

you hit the nail on the head.

atreides1

(16,093 posts)
7. Eric Prince
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 06:40 AM
Feb 2017

To provide Trump with his own Praetorian Guard!!!

Zoonart

(11,879 posts)
36. I think
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 09:02 AM
Feb 2017

We have a BINGO!

Dustlawyer

(10,497 posts)
25. Leaks, thats why.
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 08:30 AM
Feb 2017

meadowlander

(4,406 posts)
52. And also that one agent
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 08:06 PM
Feb 2017

who said on Twitter she wasn't going to take a bullet for him.

Or possibly just didn't want to "dress like a woman" for him.

MgtPA

(1,022 posts)
6. Bringing in his own security to thwart attempts to impeach and/or arrest by FBI for treason?
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 06:37 AM
Feb 2017

orangecrush

(19,624 posts)
8. Bingo
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 06:40 AM
Feb 2017

Sounds reasonable.

 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
10. Yes. nt
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 07:17 AM
Feb 2017

cstanleytech

(26,320 posts)
11. Wont work, they would just be arrested and charged if they tried to interfere with a legal arrest.
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 07:27 AM
Feb 2017

mdbl

(4,976 posts)
14. if you can find someone to prosecute him
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 07:36 AM
Feb 2017

so far, the Congress doesn't seem to care about the law, or the constitution as they don't make him defend it - so was he lying when he took the oath of office too? Is there an honest republican anywhere? Haven't seen one yet. So when you say "legal arrest", I wonder who the hell is going to do it?

SammyWinstonJack

(44,130 posts)
30. Oath of office, just words with no meaning to tRump. He's
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 08:46 AM
Feb 2017

loyal to nothing and no one. In his mind, he's the boss of everything and everyone with no accountability for his actions. That's how it's always been with him.

This is the ultimate power trip he's on now. He thinks nothing will stop him. He might be right.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
12. + 1,000
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 07:28 AM
Feb 2017

Precisely. You can kiss American democracy good-frikken-bye. And the Republicans are sipping lattes and counting up their billionaire campaign contributions while American democracy gets pissed on and flushed into a cosmic cess pool by Comrade Casino and the frikken illegitimate KGOP.

Ilsa

(61,698 posts)
15. That's a tactic used by fascists to consolidate power.
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 07:39 AM
Feb 2017

He's probably forcing a loyalty oath or having them investigated.

uponit7771

(90,364 posts)
23. +1
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 08:21 AM
Feb 2017

myrna minx

(22,772 posts)
9. Wow
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 06:49 AM
Feb 2017
 

randome

(34,845 posts)
13. Maybe one or more were the source of the leaks?
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 07:33 AM
Feb 2017

JHB

(37,162 posts)
37. Or just suspected of it.
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 09:02 AM
Feb 2017

demmiblue

(36,898 posts)
16. Interesting development, especially since these are managerial positions.
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 07:44 AM
Feb 2017

I am curious to find out what happened.

no_hypocrisy

(46,202 posts)
17. Likely cut off agent's pension too.
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 07:51 AM
Feb 2017

KewlKat

(5,624 posts)
18. I'm trying to figure out why anyone could be forced to resign?
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 08:06 AM
Feb 2017

If you have nothing to hide, then why do what they say? I thought FBI was civil service? Would these have been appointed positions subject to new administration approval?

brush

(53,876 posts)
33. Seems like the Secret Service would have some kind of job security mandate
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 08:51 AM
Feb 2017

First the State Dept. now the Secret Service — career employees just fired unexpectedly.

More horsesh_t from this bully.

Botany

(70,589 posts)
19. I'm scared
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 08:10 AM
Feb 2017

n/t

rzemanfl

(29,570 posts)
20. Been there since 11/9/16. I cover it up with REALLY PISSED OFF. n/t
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 08:17 AM
Feb 2017

Botany

(70,589 posts)
22. I can't believe what I am seeing
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 08:20 AM
Feb 2017

This was and is a coup, the people behind it are traitors, the election
was rigged, and a crazy con man who is owned by Russia is POTUS.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,858 posts)
21. Out with the old SS, in with the new.
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 08:18 AM
Feb 2017

lastlib

(23,309 posts)
24. Night of the Long Knives, coming soon....
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 08:24 AM
Feb 2017

to a fascist former democracy near you......

Squinch

(51,021 posts)
26. Little Donny's acting just like his hero Vladimir. We should be happy he hasn't pulled the
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 08:35 AM
Feb 2017

the secret service people out of a meeting with a bag over their heads and murdered them.

That, no doubt, is next week.

Barack_America

(28,876 posts)
27. Not fluent in German? Loyal to the constitution?
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 08:36 AM
Feb 2017

SammyWinstonJack

(44,130 posts)
32. Both.
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 08:50 AM
Feb 2017

Kingofalldems

(38,487 posts)
28. Bet it has to do with leaks.
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 08:38 AM
Feb 2017

coco22

(1,258 posts)
54. They think they can control everyone in government but,they can't
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 08:29 PM
Feb 2017

more leaks to come. They can't fire everybody. He hasn't even staffed his offices yet because he is paranoid and can't trust anybody.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
29. Hitler's personal bodyguard
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 08:43 AM
Feb 2017

under inspection

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
41. "Is that a gun or are you just happy to see me?"
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 10:43 AM
Feb 2017

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nolabels

(13,133 posts)
31. Can you say 'paranoid'?
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 08:46 AM
Feb 2017

TNNurse

(6,929 posts)
34. The hospital I worked for gave you the option to resign
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 08:58 AM
Feb 2017

or be fired. Some of those resigning were accompanied by security to clean out their offices or lockers.

Everyone knew the truth but it did help some with their next job hunt.

Mc Mike

(9,115 posts)
35. The piss boy is really digging himself in, like a tick.
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 09:00 AM
Feb 2017

There ARE civil service protections, these personnel should sue. I remember Raygun got into hot water for attempting to terminate people in violation of the SES 120-day rule. His admin's terminations were ruled illegal.

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
38. It is always someone else that is the problem and needs to be removed.
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 09:20 AM
Feb 2017

Can't wait till his emenance is escorted out the door.

 

braddy

(3,585 posts)
39. The Secret Service has become incompetent over the years, the stories are so incredible that it
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 10:36 AM
Feb 2017

sounds like a comedy movie, drunk agents driving up on the white house lawn right next to a possible bomb being investigated, a guy just running through the (unlocked!) front door one evening, and running upstairs where he runs right over an weak, incompetent agent, etc.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,199 posts)
42. Seeing who's in charge, I don't think this was a matter of mere incompetence.
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 10:44 AM
Feb 2017

Trump did express a desire to retain his own personal security.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
40. Trump wants his own SS security
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 10:41 AM
Feb 2017

Loyal only to him.

Just one more idea he stole from Hitler.

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
43. Don't they have civil service protections?
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 10:54 AM
Feb 2017

How can he just fucking do this?

blogslut

(38,018 posts)
44. Well, the Secret Service is still in the business of investigating financial crimes.
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 10:56 AM
Feb 2017

Wouldn't want anybody sniffing around that mess would we?

hack89

(39,171 posts)
45. I suspect it has to do with that security fiasco in Philly
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 11:03 AM
Feb 2017

People should be fired over that.

OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
46. Yeah, well, maybe.
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 11:20 AM
Feb 2017

But Greenwald bestie Steve Clemons a "reliable reporter"?

Just an excitable boy.

phylny

(8,389 posts)
48. Twitler is a fool.
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 07:47 PM
Feb 2017

We know a man who was the head of the Secret Service during W's reign of terror. The agents are disciplined and single-minded, trained and trained and experts at their job.

I do not wish Twitler any harm; however, he's an idiot if he doesn't trust the Secret Service.

 

TrekLuver

(2,573 posts)
49. Well gee whiz I really hope this doesn't put his safety at risk.
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 07:49 PM
Feb 2017
 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
50. President Russian Puppet is up to something!
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 07:51 PM
Feb 2017

Fucking ilegit POS.

kerry-is-my-prez

(8,133 posts)
51. Let's hope that Trump hires agents who are as competent as the rest of the people he hires - lol!
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 07:52 PM
Feb 2017

He won't be alive for more than a day!

SeattleVet

(5,480 posts)
53. Taking the lead from Kim Jong Un?
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 08:22 PM
Feb 2017
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/north-korea-kim-jong-fires-security-chief-latest-purge-article-1.2963752

Chairman of the Workers' Party of Korea Kim Jong Un fired minister of state security Kim Won Hong instead of sending him out to the firing squad in his latest purge.

Won Hung was dismissed from his position with secret police “bowibu” for apparent charges of “corruption, abuse of power and human rights abuses,” South Korean Unification Ministry spokesman Jeong Joon-hee said in a press conference.

“There is always a possibility that purges continue as part of constantly strengthening power,” Joon-he said, while adding Won Hung could face more severe punishment — such as execution — if the outcome of further investigation doesn’t play out in his favor.

jmg257

(11,996 posts)
55. SO much for Clemons being reliable...
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 08:33 PM
Feb 2017
UPDATE: The Secret Service has branded the report by reporter Steve Clemons that at least two managers were forced to resign overnight as “absolutely false”, the Washington Examiner reported. Friday morning.

Clemons corrected and clarified his reports to now state that officials with White House cyber security were forced out. His new tweets have been added at the end of this article.
“The report regarding the Secret Service personnel is absolutely false,” an agency spokeswoman said Friday.

She referred all further questions to the White House press office, which did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

coco22

(1,258 posts)
56. I am waiting for him to go ..
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 08:33 PM
Feb 2017

overseas, I think he believes that he can send Tillerson or ambassadors.

I expect him to show up first in Afghanistan with Blackwater as his protection.

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