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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAt the grocery store today,
we bought a whole lot of produce, like we usually do every two weeks, including bell peppers, lettuce, broccoli, red grapes, celery, cherry tomatoes, onions, bananas. This time I looked at the labels: most of them came from Mexico. The grapes came from Peru and the bananas from Columbia, and the only two that were from the U.S. were the broccoli and the onions.
Trump and his stupid import taxes would raise everyone's grocery bills, unless they don't like fresh produce!
Cha
(297,471 posts)produce is from local farmers or California but I know what you mean.. especially in the winter time.
ginnyinWI
(17,276 posts)in the wintertime! We do have potatoes and onions, which can be warehoused.
safeinOhio
(32,713 posts)can be stored in the winter. We could go back to cold cellars.
Warpy
(111,316 posts)Cabbage is weird by March unless you've had the foresight to turn it into sauerkraut or kimchee. Veg that could survive longer were potatoes, turnips, onions, parsnips, and carrots, especially if kept in the dark and packed in straw so they didn't dry out. In milder climates, root veg could be kept in the ground but the carrots especially were very woody by March.
Apples turned into apple butter might keep a bit longer. Berries turned into chutneys, jellies and jams also survived well.
I really don't want to go back to the 1950s grocery selection. Yuck. There was a reason most people lived on slimy canned veg in the winter. There was really not much else.
vlyons
(10,252 posts)started a trade war that made the world-wide depression even worse.
http://americastradepolicy.com/did-the-smoot-hawley-tariff-cause-the-great-depression/#.WJgVNfKQsfI
rpannier
(24,330 posts)We all know they got nothing on Donald J Trump
They didn't set out to Make America Great Again
Donald's a smart guy. He knows a lot of things. He's seen a lot of military movies. I'm certain he's seen a lot of movies about rich people and with people unloading things from ships, so he knows trade.
And Scott Baio supported him
How could you ever doubt the man?
If I need a sarcasm tag for this I'm hiding whoever thinks it
Warpy
(111,316 posts)and Smoot-Hawley was to prevent other countries dumping their products here at a loss when they couldn't sell them domestically. The tariffs were a hamfisted attempt to protect US agriculture and the industry that remained. They were a colossally stupid thing to do, only triggering a trade war that made industries that depended on export go under.
While the Depression was triggered by the collapse of the US stock market followed rapidly by the collapse of the banking system here and abroad, what prolonged it wasn't trouble in the supply side, it was that the demand side had dried up. People simply didn't have the money to buy anything that didn't contribute to their immediate survival. If they had jobs, they couldn't be sure those jobs would last so spending just stopped.
Even Roosevelt tried the stupid conservative solution of dumping produce in order to try to drive the price up. When it finally dawned on him that the stuff wasn't selling at any price because there was no demand, we finally got the New Deal.
madaboutharry
(40,216 posts)the United States. Today I was in Costco and was looking at Norwegian smoked salmon that was packaged in Greece. That is just one example. And a lot of things made in the U.S. have ingredients from overseas.
The entire garment industry will be thrown into chaos. Not to mention the tech industry.
Trump is not smart. He is impulsive. He doesn't possess the critical thinking skills to think about the ramifications of a decision.
ginnyinWI
(17,276 posts)At least not at moderate prices. I've looked. Even Land's End, which used to operate here in Wisconsin, has now outsourced.
TeamPooka
(24,242 posts)C Moon
(12,219 posts)no_hypocrisy
(46,151 posts)If prices go any higher, I'll need a co-signer.
HAB911
(8,909 posts)egold2604
(369 posts)we can do it
(12,190 posts)Also note he wants to get rid of FDA.
Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)These arguments are nonsense.
You know, there was a time when liberals cared about the ~$600 billion a year trade deficit.
I guess keeping celery at 49 cents is more important, because that extra ten cents a 20% increase represents is just so much more important.
JI7
(89,260 posts)he doesn't eat the foods you mentioned.