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NNadir

(33,513 posts)
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 01:52 PM Feb 2017

Barack and Hillary Should Put America on "Do not answer."

I don't know if this has been here before, but I rather enjoyed it.

If I Were Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton, I’d Put America Under ‘Do Not Answer’

When I saw the image of former President Barack Obama in flip-flops, shorts and a backward cap, along with his wife, former first lady Michelle Obama, in the shortest of shorts, walking across the beach, I was relieved for them. They served this country well for eight years—even when millions of its citizens blatantly disrespected them for no other reason than that the hue of their skin made them antithetical to the virtues of their America. So much so that Obama’s successor is the most unqualified president in U.S. history; a man who is small by every measure who won, largely, because he sold his supporters the notion that he could restore the nation to the lily-white land of yore...

... Now that the sky has cracked and pieces have begun to fall, political journalists along with average citizens have been calling on former President Obama to speak up. So he did, 10 days after leaving office—which, in some respect, felt hasty—to disavow the travel ban targeted to immigrants from primarily Muslim nations.

The statement was appreciated, but make no mistake: Obama may speak out when it suits him as promised following the election, but he owes this country nothing. Not while on vacation. Not after eight years of service to a sizably ungrateful nation. Not less than a month after leaving office...

...Similarly, on the day of the Women’s March on Washington and subsequent days after, quite a few called on former Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton to also engage and help the resistance. Typically, after an election, the losing presidential candidate goes off and finds some business. While we are undeniably living in unique and increasingly dire circumstances, not only do I question the push for Clinton to more aggressively speak out against the antics of this amateurish administration, but I also worry about its ineffectiveness this early.

If she were to level stronger statements against Tropicana Jong-il, all that would do is invite comment from a man who can’t seem to escape campaign mode for the kind of needless public feuds he’s known for courting...

...Last August, Clinton spelled out in no uncertain terms the dangers of electing an orange clown who surrounded himself with men modeled after the Ku Klux Klan and Nazis. In each and every single debate, she pointed out that her political opponent was a con man who would be a puppet of a Russian authoritarian obsessed with shirtless selfies and unlawfully seizing neighboring land. Clinton was not my ideal candidate, but had she won 70,000 more votes in three states with laws designed to make it much more difficult for people who look like me to vote, there would be less talk about what a disastrous campaign she ran. Then again, it would have been yet another instance of black people picking up the slack for white people.

Many of the very people who have pushed Obama and Clinton to speak out more are the same people who didn’t initially want to talk to their white relatives about what it means to support a man who has an extensive history of bigotry...


Pretty powerful stuff; I refer you to the full text at the link.
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Barack and Hillary Should Put America on "Do not answer." (Original Post) NNadir Feb 2017 OP
Black Thanksgiving BeyondGeography Feb 2017 #1
Best part of the OP ed. Thanks for posting. Fla Dem Feb 2017 #2
... Lucinda Feb 2017 #3
K & R x a bajillion! JHan Feb 2017 #4
"america who???" niyad Feb 2017 #5
Where was our support lou ky dem Feb 2017 #6
Good read, and spot on point... Wounded Bear Feb 2017 #7
I agree absolutely. It's not in their DNA, because unlike the SCROTUS, they love... NNadir Feb 2017 #8
What bothers me more than that they were warned is that they were BEGGED... butdiduvote Feb 2017 #9
Great synopsis il_lilac Feb 2017 #11
+1 betsuni Feb 2017 #15
Spot On otohara Feb 2017 #10
"Tropicana Jong-Il" hatrack Feb 2017 #12
My personal favorite comparative name for Trumps is Uday and Quesay for the... NNadir Feb 2017 #13
Agree 100% Blue_Tires Feb 2017 #14
I still can't believe it. betsuni Feb 2017 #16
I can't believe it either. I keep thinking I'll wake up and realize it's a terrible... NNadir Feb 2017 #17

BeyondGeography

(39,369 posts)
1. Black Thanksgiving
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 01:56 PM
Feb 2017

This I could deal with:

Me: Fuck that man.

Auntie: What he said. AND MELANIA IS NO MICHELLE.

Uncle: Fuck him is right.

Cousin: Fuck him.

End scene.

Fla Dem

(23,652 posts)
2. Best part of the OP ed. Thanks for posting.
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 01:57 PM
Feb 2017

People had to see the sight of the absolute worst in order to take to the streets. Even after they were warned. No, no, no. Obama and Clinton warned y’all, and some of us voted accordingly. They’ve done their duty. It’s time to get off their straps and sacs and go do your part.

lou ky dem

(70 posts)
6. Where was our support
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 02:05 PM
Feb 2017

For Obama when the right was out to destroy him. Why weren't we in the the streets when to GOP would not even put his bills up for a vote or when they wouldn't give his Supreme Court Judge a hearing? We didn't have his back and now we want him to have ours.

Wounded Bear

(58,647 posts)
7. Good read, and spot on point...
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 02:05 PM
Feb 2017

but thankfully, both Ms Clinton and Mr Obama are career public servants and I doubt they will withdraw to the shadows permanently.

Yes, they deserve their vacations, and the comments about people who didn't bother to vote speaking out now are apropos, but I don't think that staying quiet about injustice is in the DNA of either Ms Clinton or Mr Obama.

NNadir

(33,513 posts)
8. I agree absolutely. It's not in their DNA, because unlike the SCROTUS, they love...
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 02:09 PM
Feb 2017

...their country.

This said, there is something to be said for letting the authors of this tragedy, Trump voters, stew in the broth they made for themselves.

A great deal of damage is going to be done, and has already been done, by the Putin 'Publican party.

butdiduvote

(284 posts)
9. What bothers me more than that they were warned is that they were BEGGED...
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 02:11 PM
Feb 2017

...by members of the groups who would be most impacted by a Trump presidency to put aside any grievances they had with Hillary or the DNC until after the election and protect them from all of the harm they would endure if Hillary lost. Women who had been sexually assaulted pleaded with the electorate, "Please. I'm doing so well in my recovery, and I can't bear to be set back by someone who brags about assaulting women becoming leader of the free world." LGBT people pleaded, "Please, we're finally achieving progress in terms of being treated as actual human beings under the law and in society in general. Please don't put people in charge who seek to take us back to the days when whether or not we deserved respect as human beings was up for debate." People from immigrant families begged the electorate not to put them through the trauma of having their family members torn away from them.

Far too many people told these various groups that they didn't matter enough, that "voting their conscience" didn't necessitate protecting them from the assaults on their dignity and safety that a Trump administration would bring. Now these people think those who DID spend the election season trying to prevent all of this destruction owe them something.

il_lilac

(895 posts)
11. Great synopsis
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 02:29 PM
Feb 2017

And most T* supporters still think they're right. It won't change till it hits them close to home.

NNadir

(33,513 posts)
13. My personal favorite comparative name for Trumps is Uday and Quesay for the...
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 03:00 PM
Feb 2017

...two little freak Trumps Don Jr. and Eric.

It may have Bill Maher who came up with that one.

Those two, like the original Uday and Quesay are just as bad as their father.

But yes, Topicana Jong-Il is wonderful.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
14. Agree 100%
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 05:35 PM
Feb 2017

The American left and Democratic Party as a whole should have to dig itself out of this mess without it's two favorite life preservers/punching bags... Let Sanders shoulder the burden for the next couple of years, at least...

betsuni

(25,472 posts)
16. I still can't believe it.
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 06:26 PM
Feb 2017

People so sure Hillary Clinton was going to do terrible things based on nothing but vague feelings and propaganda; on the other hand Trump couldn't stop yacking about all the terrible things he'd do and they thought, oh, he'll never really do that don't be silly. What the hell kind of judgement is that?

I wouldn't answer if America called, either. Not until I was good and ready.

NNadir

(33,513 posts)
17. I can't believe it either. I keep thinking I'll wake up and realize it's a terrible...
Thu Feb 9, 2017, 08:57 PM
Feb 2017

...nightmare.

It isn't. It's real. I never thought I'd see my country betrayed by its own people and fall into an abyss so rapidly.

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