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Former Vice President Joe Bidens daughter Ashley has started a line of 100% made in America clothing to fund sustainable change in impoverished communities. Her efforts stand in stark contrast to President Donald Trumps fashion brand, as well as his daughter Ivankas line of clothing and accessories. Both Trumps produce knockoff luxury items in foreign countries, almost certainly exploiting sweatshop and child labor. For all his talk of bringing manufacturing back to America, and his supposed dedication to championing the average American worker, Trump is more than willing to outsource jobs and exploit cheap labor in the developing world.
Ashley Biden was not inspired by a wealthy childhood and family tradition of using their name to sell mediocre products; she is a social worker in Delaware. Through her career, Ashley learned firsthand the extent to which some American communities lack resources and suffer because of it. She has come up with a plan to make change by empowering community leaders to make sustainable economic change.
Ashelys brand Livelihood sells high quality hoodies online and uses the profits to fund development programs. She explains, The phrase on the back of the neck line is Keep Your Hood Up. Its a reminder, even when life is tough, to keep your neighborhood up in prosperity and focus on positive outreach in your community.
http://occupydemocrats.com/2017/02/12/joe-bidens-daughter-just-showed-ivanka-trump-truly-make-america-great/
RedWedge
(618 posts)Here are some more affordable Made in USA options. Some are even union made!
http://www.unionlabel.com/sweatshirts.html
Phentex
(16,334 posts)Or you can get a round beach towel for only $89 marked down from $150.
Obviously, I am not the target audience.
Ms. Toad
(34,058 posts)I have never, in my life, paid $90 for a plain cotton hoodie. I don't plan to start now.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)for a good cause vs money, for a trump item, made OUTSIDE, the usa, that is ten times more, with a profit margin for the greedy class in the range of 60-75%. Made in america IS more expensive but I feel the quality will be much better than the chinese, indian, pakistani shit coming into this country from wherever it was made that lasts a few months for us 'common people' then we have to buy it again. But that's the purpose for junk, isn't it?
The greedy class got the lock!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!: beer:
Ms. Toad
(34,058 posts)I don't do it by paying excessively for products.
That was my position when my daughter was required to hawk overpriced junk to raise money - it is the same principle when a corporation asks me to pay double what an item should cost so it can decide what good works to do with my money.
(FWIW, as one of the many things I've done in my life, I've worked as an independent seamstress, so I know the time and material cost to make a hoodie. I'm not pulling junk out of my arse when I tell you it is overpriced.)
heaven05
(18,124 posts)and is on you. Point is made by her donation policy. Don't buy it...your right...many will to donate to a good cause. So NOT overpriced on principle and purpose of cause, but that's just me.
Ms. Toad
(34,058 posts)Typically I donate between 5 & 10% of my gross income each year - directly to causes I support through organizations I've researched to make sure that the portion of money going to administrative costs (which, in this case would include making items of clothing) is low. I don't accept freebies as rewards for donations (since that diminishes the value of my donation). I don't buy items for the purpose of making a donation to secondary causes.
If you want to make different choices, that's fine - but it's pretty rude to characterize a practice of making donations in a manner that is consistent with any guidelines for maximizing the bang for your charitable buck I've ever seen as an "excuse."
heaven05
(18,124 posts)JI7
(89,244 posts)heaven05
(18,124 posts)there are plenty people out here, including me, who will buy one to help in this cause. Damn!!!! There is just no way to get through to some people. 90.00 dollars vs maybe 200.00 for a goddamn trump item of same...made OUTSIDE this country....that's the point...Biden's daughter has HER heart in the right place . ..damn !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Naysayers and cynics ......
Botany
(70,483 posts)n/t
brer cat
(24,546 posts)I loved this:
How refreshing to include the people on the streets in making decisions and not billionaires playing like they know what is best. Kudos to Ashley and I hope she is successful.
For those who only complain about the price, I consider it a donation to fund much-needed development projects. You obviously have the option to buy for less and let the owners keep the profits.
justhanginon
(3,289 posts)matter how good the cause. Kudos to those that can and do purchase one.
I may be a lttle too sensitive but I do think your last sentence with its subtle implication was unecessary.
mopinko
(70,070 posts)there are good hoodies out there in that price range. no, i wouldnt buy it just to keep me warm. but i might buy it knowing it was keeping other, good people warm.
PatSeg
(47,368 posts)One could think of the purchase as a donation, like when you donate money to PBS and get a book or a DVD.
Ms. Toad
(34,058 posts)on the same principle. I know I do.
When I donate, I choose the cause, I resesarch the charity, and donate funds directly to an organization working on that cause with extremely low administration costs. Providing a sweatshirt in exchange that diminishes the value of my donation by at least 50% does not count as extremely low administration costs.
PatSeg
(47,368 posts)I have very little money to donate and when I do, I'd like it to be used for a particular purpose, not merchandise. I did received a quarterly magazine from the ACLU. I wasn't expecting it and I was very pleased with it.
If I wanted a book or DVD, I would just buy it, but if I am going to buy something and part of the proceeds go to a good cause, that is cool too. I have that option on Amazon.
dmr
(28,347 posts)My son & I are going to go halvies & buy a hoodie. That's one way of support.
90 dollars is a lot of money, but then again, so are a lot of other things we buy where that money goes to the wealthy who emploited their workers.
calimary
(81,192 posts)Not everybody can.
But those who can - SHOULD.
brer cat
(24,546 posts)including gala fund-raising events, but I don't slam them based solely on the fact that I can't afford to participate. $90 hoodies are outside my price range too; I just consider it more than buying an article of clothing. The first posts on this thread mentioned the price only and not a word about the work that Ashley Biden is doing.
My last sentence was in no way subtle, just stating a fact. I can buy cookies from Keebler a lot cheaper than my grands Girl Scout cookies, but the former benefits only the company and the latter benefits the troop. Nothing subtle or complicated about that.
Ms. Toad
(34,058 posts)I'm pretty disgusted by the responses in this thread who seem to be tossing guilt trips at people who either can't donate this way - or (as I do) make substantial direct donations to organizations that put virtually all of my money to use for matters I care about.
PatSeg
(47,368 posts)We are so lucky to have the Bidens.
IronLionZion
(45,410 posts)even better if they are made in the USA and helps create jobs, which it wasn't clear on the site.
TygrBright
(20,756 posts)What this REALLY is, is what fundraisers call a 'premium' for a donation- a thank-you gift of real monetary value, the amount of which needs to be deducted from tax-deductible portion of the gift.
It's most unlikely that the hoodie cost that much to manufacture, even using Union American labor. The amount it DID cost should simply be deducted and the rest of the $90 receipted as a charitable gift that the donor may write off on their tax return.
It does nothing to "make America great" to foster the idea that the cost of American-made goods would be so great as to put them out of reach for people on limited budgets.
EITHER Ashley needs to clarify that this is fund-raising, pure and simple, or she needs to re-structure the deal so that people have the option of purchasing it at the actual manufacturing price plus markups to cover fulfillment and indirect costs, as well as the option of purchasing it at that price plus making a separate donation that will bring the cost up to $90.
Objective: Win
Implementation: Fail
It would be a much bigger and better "Make America Great" project to provide seed capital and startup assistance for worker-owned co-ops to manufacture consumer goods and sell them at a price point within reach of people willing to pay more than WalMart prices for American-made goods, but still not able to buy premium stuff.
helpfully,
Bright
Hekate
(90,627 posts)mopinko
(70,070 posts)jeebus. she is doing something good and smart. why the heck would she undermine her own project by letting people buy at cost?
where it goes from here is yet to be determined, but it seems clear to me the worker will have a voice.
dont make the perfect the enemy of the good. it's like getting pecked to death by ducks to post something altruistic around here.
TygrBright
(20,756 posts)I have a long history in the nonprofit sector, and I'm deeply concerned right now at the extent to which it's getting a black eye from being used by con artists for their own benefit. It's getting bad enough that the Aramony scandal is going to look like a minor kerfuffle at some point soon.
Nonprofits MUST be one hundred percent clear about fund raising, what the costs are, what the benefits are, and how the mechanisms work.
I was trying to helpfully point out how Ashley can do that-- both raise funds for her excellent cause AND not lay herself and that cause open to implications that they're being deceptive or non-transparent in their fundraising practices.
This matters.
There are a number of people in the current Administration who would rather see the nonprofit sector go away altogether, and who will jump at the chance to throw shade on legitimate projects.
peaceably,
Bright
mopinko
(70,070 posts)seems pretty straight forward to me. like noted elsewhere in the thread- you can get cookies a lot cheaper from keebler than from the girl scouts. everybody knows why their cookies are $4 a pop.
let them throw all the shade they want. they aint the target audience here.
Ms. Toad
(34,058 posts)I hope you forward it to her.
Hekate
(90,627 posts)....that's won't leave me with a hoodie I can't wear at my age. Some people do that for their local Girl Scout Troop too, instead of buying cookies their doc says they can't eat.
hollowdweller
(4,229 posts)I can't remember our side or the press badgering him as to whether he would move production to the US at any time. Clinton attacked him a lot but I can never remember him being asked about it at a debate?
"Mr Trump you have condemed outsourcing, but your products are not made in the US.
Why should voters trust you to address this issue and if elected will you move production to the us" ????
PRETZEL
(3,245 posts)really isn't out of the ordinary for hoodies these days.