Are we all being played?

[thejoker123]

Consider;

Don't you think it's strange that an intelligence community that was so clearly in Trumps corner during the election season is now suddenly tripping over themselves to leak all this incredibly damning information about Trump and his administration just weeks in his taking office?

Why the 180 degree flip?

Could it be that now that the Republicans won the election, their allies in the FBI/CIA who helped sink Hillary are now acting to sink Trump so that he can be impeached and Republicans can remove the insane man baby and install their loyal far right conservative puppet Mike Pence as President?

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

1. Yes.

Quite possible.

[blogslut]

2. The intelligence community is not a monolith.

Certain factions were definitely anti-Clinton but Trump straight-up insulted his intelligence briefers during and after the campaign. I think you are mistaken in your assumptions.

[thejoker123]

4. And where were those other "factions"

During the campaign? Plenty of this stuff was known then. Why wait until now?

I think there it's clear there is a script here.

[blogslut]

6. Dude I don't know

Those people work in the shadows. Mark Felt didn't come out until 30 years after the fact.

[tblue37]

3. The FBI were Trumpy--and possibly only a New York cabal within the FBI. The CIA

were not Trump fans, and many former intelligence people signed letters warning he would be a grave threat to national security.

Also, the FBI and CIA often act as rivals engaged in a turf war.

Don't forget, too, that the CIA is a G.H.W. Bush friendly agency.

[thejoker123]

5. As I responded to someone else...

The "dueling" factions or agencies explanation doesn't square. If that were the case, why were the alleged anti-Trump factions silent through the campaign when a lot of this information was known?

[rzemanfl]

8. I think they thought Drumpf would lose and they could protect sources and

methods. I believe President Obama did too.

[tblue37]

10. They weren't. Former CIA people expressed concern and relayed concerns from current agents

who could not speak openly.

I do think the idea that only (or mainly) the NY FBI faction were so anti-Hillary is far less likely. Notice that the CIA are leading the charge against Trump. The FBI might only be going along under pressure, to avoid getting traitor cooties on their public image.

Comey did seem quite inappropriately happy about Trump blowing him a kiss and hugging him in that one video.

[MrPurple]

7. Right, all military/civilian intelligence agencies said Russia hacked for Trump before the election

And, I'd take President Pence over President Trump. He wouldn't have the Twitler cult of personality disorder and at least he'd be more rational and stable.

Even people in Indiana were sick of Mike Pence. If Democrats can't beat a fundamentalist who calls his wife "mother", we're in serious trouble

[thejoker123]

11. Pence is the most un-vetted VP ever.

[NoGoodNamesLeft]

15. He's also duller than a popcorn fart...

Which means he will be easy to beat.

[rufus dog]

9. I think it has more to do with the difference between the liberal and conservative mindset

I can only speak for me and through my experiences, but I notice liberals tend to be very fact based and not boisterous, while conservatives seem to be the opposite. So they (conservatives) will shoot off half cocked while others are gathering intelligence and building a case.

[Still Sensible]

12. I think the FBI was clearly in Trump's camp

probably expecting a law and order focus, black and white view of immigration, protests, etc...

But I think most of the intelligence community probably understood what Trump and his allies are. I think his poking the intelligentsia is the one thing he should not have done.

[truebluegreen]

13. Sure. At least some hated Hillary enough

to try to sink her--looking at you FBIs--but none of them want an erratic nut job in charge. So yeah, the Deep State is taking Trump down. They need to discredit him first so at least some of his followers will abandon him. Hence the focus on Russia--that same base is much less fond of Russia than Trump and his handlers are.

[Ms. Toad]

14. Frankly, I don't care.

Trump is more of a disaster than I expected him to be - I figured he would be a bumbling idiot too obsessed to get anything done. I didn't count on Bannon pulling the strings. He needs to be out of there.

Pence woudl be horrendous, but work through normal, predictable chanels. Given that Flynn is gone, I suspect that Pence even has a smidgen of integrity. Not a lot - but at least 100% more than Trump.