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[kentuck]

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[NurseJackie]

1. Explain please. When you ask ...

Is this a canary in the coal mine for the Democrats?

... what exactly are you talking about?

[kentuck]

4. The number of Bernie supporters that are supportive of her was surprising.

She is like an extension of Bernie's campaign. They are very energetic and involved. They are not Democratic Party supporters per se. They are more Independent in their politics. But there seems to be a lot of grassroots support for her. Democrats could lose these voters very easily.

[NurseJackie]

7. Then we have nothing to worry about.

[kentuck]

10. I think that might be a mistake.

to overlook her. Just my two cents.

[NurseJackie]

12. People have already rejected "Bernie politics" ... why would she want to go there? Other than as ...

Other than as a Jill Stein type of protest-vote or spoiler-vote, she'd serve no purpose. She brings nothing to the table. She's definitely NOT the "next big thing". She has as much gravitas as Nina Turner, and you don't see anyone seriously mentioning her as a 2020 possibility.

[kentuck]

22. No, they have not "rejected" Bernie politics...

They still hold Bernie in high esteem.

[NurseJackie]

25. Actually, yes he was. Math and history tell a different story.

The level of esteem with which he may currently be held by some does not change the fact that he was, in fact, rejected. (Is there another word you'd prefer to use instead? Semantics and word-games won't change anything, however.)

[kentuck]

28. Just because he did not win the majority of votes does not mean he was rejected.

Hillary may not have won the popular vote without Bernie supporters?

[NurseJackie]

31. Honestly, Kentuck... I have no idea what that's supposed to mean.

28. Just because he did not win the majority of votes does not mean he was rejected.

Yes it does.

Clearly the word "rejected" is what you're having difficulty with. I'm interested, therefore, in what other word you'd prefer to use. Can you elaborate? Or are you just playing games?

Hillary may not have won the popular vote without Bernie supporters?

Okay-y-y. What does that have to do with anything?

[virtualobserver]

33. Hillary started the race on third base....Bernie started from home plate.

Hillary crossed the plate first, so she won.

Bernie was rejected though, by both centrist Democrats and the party structure.

[uponit7771]

2. Her views on Islam puts her out on the jump... "blasting Obama" does too...

[frazzled]

3. Not a canary in the coal mine ... more like

a fly in the soup.

If he who shall not be named is Putin's puppet, she could be Assad's puppet.

Facebook posts? Really?

[kentuck]

5. That was my first impression...

until I read some of the comments from her supporters.

[NurseJackie]

6. Well ...

Facebook posts? Really?

... it's either that, or "clicky-clicky" online polls.

[nikibatts]

34. She and a few other Bernie supporters can be thanked (Susan, Nina) can be thanked for

the fool we now have in the WH. Tulsi is no one I would support under any circumstances. Anyone filled with obvious hate (no matter what kind) should not hold any public office. Their hearts are not FOR the people as much as AGAINST something.

[HoneyBadger]

8. She is the most visible of a small group of front runners

And she was for Bernie before it was cool to be for Bernie, who knows, Assad could be cool by 2020. I see the tide turning for Iran, why not Syria..... Could definitely pull the youth vote.

[kentuck]

9. They like her also because she quit her job as Vice-Chair of the DNC...

under Debbie Wasserman Shultz.

[HoneyBadger]

11. Oct 2015 she was Bernie's bro in the DNC

Rep. Tulsi Gabbard said she was disinvited from Tuesday night's first Democratic debate after voicing a call for more of them.

Gabbard, the vice chair of the Democratic National Committee, told CNN's Wolf Blitzer Monday on "The Situation Room" she was told her vocal support for more debates had made her "no longer welcome to come to the debate."
Gabbard said the message was conveyed to her chief-of-staff from the chief-of-staff of DNC Chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz.
"The prevailing message of that was that because I continued to call for more debates, that I should not go to the debate in Las Vegas," the Hawaii congresswoman said. "The issue here is not about me saying, 'Boo hoo, I'm going to miss the party.' The issue here is one of democracy and freedom of speech."
The New York Times reported earlier Monday that Gabbard had received a message through her staff about her attendance at the event one day after she appeared on television calling for more Democratic debates. Bernie Sanders campaign then offered her a ticket later on Monday.
"If she needs a ticket, have her give me a call," Jeff Weaver, Sanders' campaign manager, said on CNN's "New Day" on Monday. "I think we have a couple; we can give her one."

[LP2K12]

13. She also holds some appeal with...

Military dems.

I don't agree with her on everything, but as long as she represents our party I'll support her.

[HoneyBadger]

14. Her problems is Warren

Warren will get the DNC support in 2020.

And by 2024, there could be mostly female candidates, it will be that much harder to lock in that demographic.

[NewJeffCT]

15. Wasn't she under consideration for a role in the Trump White House?

and, her views on Islam and gay rights (personally opposes gay marriage) won't be popular with a lot of progressives.

http://mauitime.com/news/politics/heres-why-the-hawaii-lgbt-caucus-doesnt-support-rep-tulsi-gabbards-reelection-campaign/

[obamanut2012]

18. Yes -- she is a wingnut

She needed to be a Dem to get elected. She sucks in every way.

[randome]

19. She went to Syria to do the bidding of Dult45. She is mud, in my opinion, and should be ousted.

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Aspire to inspire.[/center][/font][hr]

[George II]

16. Has she announced a "2020 campaign"? Is that facebook page hers or one of her fans?

[obamanut2012]

17. She is a Trojan Horse wingnut

Anyone who supports her is not a liberal.

[randome]

20. Just like Rand Paul supporters.

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Aspire to inspire.[/center][/font][hr]

[BannonsLiver]

32. But she's the "canary in the coal mine".

[seaglass]

21. I am familiar with attempts to primary her. I would not support her and neither will the

Democratic base.

[KittyWampus]

23. her Facebook page could possibly be getting used by troll farms.

Or did Putin just stop all that activity?

[kentuck]

24. She seems to be very popular with the military...

and Bernie supporters.

She could be a real Third Party threat by 2020, in my humble opinion.

[NurseJackie]

26. What do you like about her? Why is she appealing to you?

[kentuck]

30. I liked the photo of her on the surf board.

But, was surprised by the support for her on Facebook. Maybe it means nothing, as most posters say? She has an independent appeal that makes her a threat to the Democratic Party, in my opinion. We can ignore her if we choose.

[Demsrule86]

27. I have been suprised at some of what she has said and done.

[Adrahil]

29. She is at best a spoiler.

Anyone who thinks this is a good way to go is a damned fool.