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nikibatts

(2,198 posts)
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 08:40 PM Feb 2017

For all of you who want to say that Pres. Obama did the same as 45 is doing now in Melbourne.

I defy you to play each rally event that Obama held promoting the stimulus package or the ACA along with the insanity you just witnessed in FL. Not even in the same stratosphere.

Obama didn't out and out lie about keeping your Dr or plan. The states refused to expand Medicare and the AMA did everything in their power to keep physicians from playing a proper role. Dissuading young and healthy people from enrolling and obstructing him on every turn is what foiled the plan that had all things worked out would have allowed people not on Medicaid to keep their own plans and physicians.

Shovel ready construction jobs were just simply not invested in as the big money investments were held back on purpose, just so Obama would fail at this. Go back, read the record listen to the tapes.

Lying is when you absolutely know something to be false and saying it anyway. Speculating and proposing and planning for a certain outcome is not lying because the plans fall through. I grant you, Obama should not have promised something he could not produce himself or could not control himself. But that is a far cry from the lying that 45 does every day all day long.

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For all of you who want to say that Pres. Obama did the same as 45 is doing now in Melbourne. (Original Post) nikibatts Feb 2017 OP
WTF are you trying to do with this shit? Squinch Feb 2017 #1
I don't understand your reply. Control-Z Feb 2017 #3
Good post! Laf.La.Dem. Feb 2017 #2
I don't have to go back and look at anything. Control-Z Feb 2017 #4
When Obama had rallies, it was to show what he wanted to do for the American logosoco Feb 2017 #5

Control-Z

(15,686 posts)
3. I don't understand your reply.
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 10:08 PM
Feb 2017

Could you explain it? The way it's written it sounds like you're disagreeing with the OP. That's not what you meant, is it?

Control-Z

(15,686 posts)
4. I don't have to go back and look at anything.
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 10:17 PM
Feb 2017

I followed it and remember it well. There is no comparison. Anyone who says differently was asleep for the last 8 years or is drinking the Kool-aid.

logosoco

(3,211 posts)
5. When Obama had rallies, it was to show what he wanted to do for the American
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 10:18 PM
Feb 2017

people. The rally today was pumping up a candidate (even though the election is 4 years away and who knows what the future holds!).
45 just keeps saying everything is going great, when, even in the short amount of time he's held the office, he has not really done anything to benefit most Americans. And his lifestyle looks like it has already cost taxpayers a fortune.

Obama did not do everything we had hoped for, but considering what he was up against for most of the time, he did a very amazing job. He did not leave anything at all like the mess he started with. He inherited a huge mess and left a fairly decent running country with good numbers among reasonable metrics.

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