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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIf we all switched to R could we screw with their gerrymandering?
You guys know more than I do....in WI we have been screwed for 7 years now.
crazycatlady
(4,492 posts)And switching to R is nothing as they look at past voting performance, not partisan affiliation.
Hugin
(33,177 posts)Which leads to voter suppression. For instance, closing early voting sites because self-identified Democrats tend to vote early.
TheDebbieDee
(11,119 posts)It would make it more difficult for those ba$tards to know where to draw the lines!
crazycatlady
(4,492 posts)still_one
(92,320 posts)Last edited Mon Feb 20, 2017, 06:40 PM - Edit history (1)
jodymarie aimee
(3,975 posts)we have lost tons of state Senate and Assembly seats, also. Have you ever looked at our maps? They are nuts, and we recently won in court to have them redrawn ASAP. Rs are gonna spend $175,000 of our $$ to fight it.
still_one
(92,320 posts)Walker not only survived the recall vote, but also won reelection
Hillary lost Wisconsin not because of gerrymandering. The 1% that voted for Jill Stein made a difference
uponit7771
(90,348 posts)still_one
(92,320 posts)jodymarie aimee
(3,975 posts)https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/11/23/wisconsins-gerrymander-being-struck-down-should-scare-republicans-nationwide/?utm_term=.bd765b4db6dd
http://urbanmilwaukee.com/2016/12/28/data-wonk-2016-election-results-prove-gerrymandering/
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/21/wisconsin-gerrymandering-district-court-2016-election-decision
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/updates/voter-turnout-united-states/
"According to interviews with research institutions, advocacy groups and legislators involved in those efforts, restrictive voting laws in some states discourage the electorate from registering to vote. Additionally, they said gerrymandered districts cut across party lines reducing the number of competitive races and interest, and disgruntled citizens, fed up with the often contentious nature of politics, can choose not participate."
On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 3:33 PM, <jodyhurrish@charter.net> wrote:
Katrina, I am having a debate with someone on the blog...I said we have lost seats due to gerrymandering. They said I am nuts.
still_one
(92,320 posts)Those are the Governor's Race, Federal Senators, and Presidential elections
The WHOLE state of Wisconsin voted for Scott Walker and Ron Johnson multiple times. Those races were not the result of gerrymandering
As to losing district state seats, or representative seats, those office are the result of gerrymandering
I am not sure if your last sentence is referring to our dialog, because if it is, you have entirely misrepresented the discussion.
1. I NEVER said you were "nuts"
2. I was referring to Governor and federal offices. Why don't you ask how gerrymandering affected the Scott Walker, Ron Johnson and Russ Feingold races. I would be very curious how they would argue that those races were affected by gerrymandering
jodymarie aimee
(3,975 posts)and I posted her answer here. Do you not get that Pres, Gov, Senate races are on the same ballot as state Senate/Assembly races? And no, the WHOLE state did not vote for Walker or Johnson. Dialogue over on my part. It all started with a whimsical question about switching parties....relating to gerrymandering.....I repeat.....whimsical.....
still_one
(92,320 posts)Election results for Russ Feingold:
http://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/wisconsin-senate-johnson-feingold
Election results for Hillary in Wisconsin:
http://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/wisconsin
Note, Hillary lost by .7% and Jill Stein received 1%. That made a difference
still_one
(92,320 posts)was making. I meant to refer to only governor and federal senate offices which are NOT affected by gerrymandering
ElementaryPenguin
(7,800 posts)If EVERYONE were a Republican - we could vote out the conservatives just by our sheer numbers - and elect progressive "Republicans" who were former Democrats like GOP Sen. Elizabeth Warren. Make them have to start their own party.
La Lioness Priyanka
(53,866 posts)which is somewhat harder to accomplish
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)(Sort of surprised he didn't make it "Bobby Ray" just to be on the safe side).
MFM008
(19,818 posts)not even temporary....
MineralMan
(146,324 posts)elections that control that. Vote for Democrats. Encourage everyone to vote for Democrats. Never pretend to be something you are not. In 2018, we're going to need every Democratic voter we can bring to the polls.
MosheFeingold
(3,051 posts)But it would certainly screw with polling samples.
I do know a lot of Democratic people in red states register as Republicans to have some sort of voice -- in the primary -- as there is no point in bothering on the Democrat side in most areas. A lot of time there is no Democratic candidate. Texas is like this.
csziggy
(34,136 posts)Partly because they are in very red parts of Florida and want to have a say in the primaries that can decide many local races.But they originally switched to Republican to screw around with the higher level races such as governor and president. In those primaries they vote for the candidates most likely to be vulnerable to losing to Democrats.
Marthe48
(17,004 posts)commenting about the money being spent for trump's golfing trips, guarding trump tower, about other things, and saying I want my Republican party back. I'm trying to reframe my argument