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Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 04:17 PM Feb 2017

Your pick for DNC chair





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Keith Ellison of Minnesota, U.S. Representative from Minnesota since 2007[3][25]
Thomas Perez of Maryland, United States Secretary of Labor from 2013 to 2017[11]
Pete Buttigieg of Indiana, Mayor of South Bend, Indiana since 2012.[13]
Jaime Harrison of South Carolina, chairman of the South Carolina Democratic Party since 2013[28]
Jehmu Greene of Texas, Democratic strategist, Fox News analyst, and former Rock The Vote president.[14]
Peter Peckarsky of Wisconsin, attorney[29]
Samuel "Sam" P. Ronan of Ohio, activist and Air Force veteran[30]
Sally Boynton Brown of Idaho, Executive Director of the Idaho Democratic Party since 2012[31]
Robert Vinson Brannum, Veterans Committee chair of the NAACP’s Washington D.C. branch [30]
70 votes, 4 passes | Time left: Unlimited
Tom Perez
23 (33%)
Keith Ellison
28 (40%)
Sam Ronan
1 (1%)
Sally Brown
1 (1%)
Robert Brannum
0 (0%)
Peter Peckarsky
0 (0%)
Jehmu Green
1 (1%)
Jaime Harrison
0 (0%)
Pete Buttigieg
16 (23%)
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Your pick for DNC chair (Original Post) Tiggeroshii Feb 2017 OP
Since they are friends, and cbreezen Feb 2017 #1
Nice thought. Mother Jones says aside from political noise Hortensis Feb 2017 #55
I can't help but agree with you... cbreezen Feb 2017 #58
If you get too irritated, click the person's name and Hortensis Feb 2017 #59
Anyone who is competent and will fight for every seat. Salviati Feb 2017 #2
Fight for every seat Bettie Feb 2017 #24
Any would be fine ... EXCEPT the one that Susan Sarandon wants. NurseJackie Feb 2017 #3
That is about where I am. boston bean Feb 2017 #6
Which one does Debbie Wasserman Schultz want? Warren DeMontague Feb 2017 #35
Why should that be a determining factor? George II Feb 2017 #38
That reply made me laugh because it reminded me of this ... NurseJackie Feb 2017 #43
She likes Ellison. NurseJackie Feb 2017 #42
If it was REALLY that important to you, then you'd already know. But you don't NurseJackie Feb 2017 #44
Whoever will bust ass 24/7/365 in all fifty states. Iggo Feb 2017 #4
Buttigieg was endorsed by Martin O'Malley and Howard Dean. That's good enough for me. FSogol Feb 2017 #5
Agreed Idoru Feb 2017 #9
Buttigieg is also not establishment. joshcryer Feb 2017 #23
No surrogates. grantcart Feb 2017 #7
I just want somebody selected to we can finally fucking move on Blue_Tires Feb 2017 #8
VA has an important Governor race this year. n/t FSogol Feb 2017 #10
And hopefully I'll have it under control by the time it arrives... Blue_Tires Feb 2017 #12
I have a preference, but for fucks sake no more DWS types (she cost us a shiteload). demmiblue Feb 2017 #11
I have a theory that DWS would've been the better person to lead us into the general election Tiggeroshii Feb 2017 #16
Right. And the good news is we'all get that with either Ellison or Perez. BannonsLiver Feb 2017 #18
Seriously. She went to the times and insulted millennials & defended putting pot smokers in prison. Warren DeMontague Feb 2017 #36
Many of the DWS types insulted and harangued millennials, and they still do to this day. demmiblue Feb 2017 #37
That is super bad. fun n serious Feb 2017 #48
Ellison for me Kimchijeon Feb 2017 #13
how is the name Buttigieg pronounced? Skittles Feb 2017 #14
It's like Boot-a-jeg. Sort of? leftstreet Feb 2017 #21
ah OK Skittles Feb 2017 #25
BOOT-edge-edge. Denzil_DC Feb 2017 #39
ok great, thanks Skittles Feb 2017 #40
He needs to get a bunch of T-shirts made with that printed on them or something. Denzil_DC Feb 2017 #41
Ellison, but also a big fan of Buttigieg geek tragedy Feb 2017 #15
I would love that. Tiggeroshii Feb 2017 #17
I would have to say... yuiyoshida Feb 2017 #19
agreed Skittles Feb 2017 #26
Why is Ellison not on the list at the top? panader0 Feb 2017 #20
Crikey! Tiggeroshii Feb 2017 #22
Why Is Buttigieg On The Bottom otohara Feb 2017 #28
I did the easy names to spell on a cell phone first Tiggeroshii Feb 2017 #46
Keith Ellison has great organizing skills. Equinox Moon Feb 2017 #27
Buttgieg would be a more serious contender if he wasn't surgiing so late in the game Seasider Feb 2017 #29
which one supports cannabis legalization? Warren DeMontague Feb 2017 #30
Should be shared between Perez and Ellison - then Ellison can keep flamingdem Feb 2017 #31
Tom Perez! Cha Feb 2017 #32
Post removed Post removed Feb 2017 #33
Why is Buttigieg listed last? George II Feb 2017 #34
Ellison. mvd Feb 2017 #45
I like Buttigieg too, though mvd Feb 2017 #47
He won me over tonight. herding cats Feb 2017 #49
Me too mvd Feb 2017 #50
I'm thinking he has real potential. herding cats Feb 2017 #52
Michael Moore is 100% for Ellison flamingdem Feb 2017 #51
Any of them will be an improvement. southerncrone Feb 2017 #53
- Bigredhunk Feb 2017 #54
Which is the one who said women need to take a back seat to men BainsBane Feb 2017 #56
I picked Buttigieg but I'm also really octoberlib Feb 2017 #57

cbreezen

(694 posts)
1. Since they are friends, and
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 04:52 PM
Feb 2017

I think they are both terriffic, I would like to see them as co-leaders. I think a wider net could only help us.

YMMV.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
55. Nice thought. Mother Jones says aside from political noise
Thu Feb 23, 2017, 05:10 AM
Feb 2017

there's not much difference between them ideologically and they promise the same plans.

Progressive Democrats gazing upon the fight for the leadership of their party ought to be delighted. The two leading candidates for chair of the Democratic National Committee—Rep. Keith Ellison of Minnesota and Labor Secretary Tom Perez—are each battle-hardened and experienced progressives with much to offer their partisan comrades. ...

But there's truly not much ideological distance between the two. They are both grassroots-minded progressives. Ellison, before being elected to the House, was a community activist and operated a civil rights, employment, and criminal defense law practice in Minneapolis. Perez, the Buffalo, New York-raised son of two parents exiled from the Dominican Republic, was once the head of CASA de Maryland, an organization advocating for and providing services to immigrants.

And there's no big difference in their big-picture approaches to what must be done within the DNC. Ellison, "..." Perez, "..." You could transpose these statements and not notice it. ...

At this point, the Democratic Party needs much rebuilding—which entails fundraising, strategizing, candidate recruitment, messaging, organizational development, and more—from local precincts to the national level. So it might be best if the selection of the DNC chief was more job interview and less political wrestling match. Yeah, right. But many of the 447 members of the Democratic Party's national committee, who are the only voters in this contest, might actually view the race in such a way.


ww.motherjones.com/politics/2017/01/why-tom-perez-strong-competitor-against-keith-ellison-democratic-party


cbreezen

(694 posts)
58. I can't help but agree with you...
Sat Feb 25, 2017, 03:07 AM
Feb 2017

But, this is DU, so divergent thought is only acceptable if you've been around for 13 years. :peck

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
59. If you get too irritated, click the person's name and
Sat Feb 25, 2017, 06:32 AM
Feb 2017

then the "ignore" button. It can do wonders for turning DU into what we'd like it to be, a place with a large proportion of not only well behaved people but thoughtful ones whose posts are often worth reading. During the primary and general, I had hundreds on ignore. There was still plenty of disagreement, but the lessening of infectious contention made me more courteous too.

And back to the subject, today we get to find out who the new DNC chair is and move on.

Salviati

(6,009 posts)
2. Anyone who is competent and will fight for every seat.
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 05:01 PM
Feb 2017

Even if we lose a race it's important to not let the republican party be able to sell their BS uncontested.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
44. If it was REALLY that important to you, then you'd already know. But you don't
Thu Feb 23, 2017, 01:02 AM
Feb 2017

... and besides, the primaries are OVER! Please stop.

Iggo

(47,640 posts)
4. Whoever will bust ass 24/7/365 in all fifty states.
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 05:03 PM
Feb 2017

I don't care who's doing the job as long as the job's getting done.

joshcryer

(62,287 posts)
23. Buttigieg is also not establishment.
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 06:48 PM
Feb 2017

And don't you fucking tell me that Sanders isn't establishment or that Perez isn't establishment. Don't even fucking start. Buttigieg is the only way to unify the party. Perez will stoke resentment from the Sanders fans (only because Sanders endorsed Ellison way early in the "race" which it shouldn't have ever become to begin with) and Ellison will not even attempt to put an end to this interparty fighting.

Buttigieg is a smart guy. Listen to him on his podcast interviews. He knows what it takes to unify the party and get us out of this mess.

demmiblue

(36,987 posts)
11. I have a preference, but for fucks sake no more DWS types (she cost us a shiteload).
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 05:55 PM
Feb 2017

And I don't think the top contenders are DWS types, so I am totally fine with whoever is chosen.

I do think that (former) Clinton surrogates will have a huge impact on who is ultimately chosen. And I think that the vast majority of them are not in whiny primary mode like some lay people are. In other words, they are acting like adults who want the best for the Democratic Party.

 

Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)
16. I have a theory that DWS would've been the better person to lead us into the general election
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 06:33 PM
Feb 2017

I highly doubt she would've redirected funds to increase turnout in cities -out of fear of losing the popular vote, instead of towards the swing states. For all her faults she, she did us straight in 2012, and I think she would've been worlds better than Donna Brazille in 2016.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
36. Seriously. She went to the times and insulted millennials & defended putting pot smokers in prison.
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 10:29 PM
Feb 2017

To say she was bad for the brand is a huge understatement.

demmiblue

(36,987 posts)
37. Many of the DWS types insulted and harangued millennials, and they still do to this day.
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 10:43 PM
Feb 2017

Seems rather counter-productive to me. I guess they have to hold on to their drama llamas... helps them sleep better at night.

 

fun n serious

(4,451 posts)
48. That is super bad.
Thu Feb 23, 2017, 01:45 AM
Feb 2017

I am nearly 50, I was always a Hillary supporter, have never smoked pot but voted in my state of Oregon for rec marijuana. Before it was legal, cops would stop, frisk and jail kids over a dime bag of pot. Legal Marijuana took this power away from cops and things are much better.

Skittles

(153,497 posts)
40. ok great, thanks
Thu Feb 23, 2017, 12:30 AM
Feb 2017

it occurs to me I have read about this guy, and like what he has to say, but was unsure how to pronounce his name.

Denzil_DC

(7,310 posts)
41. He needs to get a bunch of T-shirts made with that printed on them or something.
Thu Feb 23, 2017, 12:42 AM
Feb 2017

I don't have a horse in this race, but I've been following his progress for a while and he's impressive on a lot of levels.

He may not win this post, but I think either way, he's going to be an important figure in the Democratic Party in the future.

Skittles

(153,497 posts)
26. agreed
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 09:16 PM
Feb 2017

I think the ridiculous antics of our Toddler-In-Chief and his band of thugs have taken over our attention

panader0

(25,816 posts)
20. Why is Ellison not on the list at the top?
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 06:39 PM
Feb 2017

I can't claim to know enough about the candidates to have an informed
opinion. I just want the new chair to be aggressive and organized in every state.

 

Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)
46. I did the easy names to spell on a cell phone first
Thu Feb 23, 2017, 01:30 AM
Feb 2017

Had nothing to do with where I thought they deserved to be

Seasider

(169 posts)
29. Buttgieg would be a more serious contender if he wasn't surgiing so late in the game
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 09:50 PM
Feb 2017

Maybe I'm a bit young but I don't recall ever seeing this much attention paid to a DNC chair campaign. My guess is that either Perez or Ellison wins and you will get some whining and grumbling from people who wanted the other guy but eventually the party will come together simply because they have to if they want to make gains in 2018.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
30. which one supports cannabis legalization?
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 09:53 PM
Feb 2017

The last thing we need is another chair like DWS, supporting things like putting medical marijuana users in prison -- horribly out of step with the electorate.

flamingdem

(39,352 posts)
31. Should be shared between Perez and Ellison - then Ellison can keep
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 09:56 PM
Feb 2017

his seat and as they both say - they're friends

Response to Tiggeroshii (Original post)

mvd

(65,191 posts)
47. I like Buttigieg too, though
Thu Feb 23, 2017, 01:40 AM
Feb 2017

Someone who was not a part of either faction may be a good choice.

herding cats

(19,569 posts)
49. He won me over tonight.
Thu Feb 23, 2017, 01:49 AM
Feb 2017

I liked how informed he was and his presentation. That he's an outsider is an added bonus.

If I had an actual pick, he'd be my choice.

mvd

(65,191 posts)
50. Me too
Thu Feb 23, 2017, 01:52 AM
Feb 2017

I actually like him as much as Ellison after reading more about him. He wants to stress the party's economic roots.

herding cats

(19,569 posts)
52. I'm thinking he has real potential.
Thu Feb 23, 2017, 01:59 AM
Feb 2017

He's young and he's what we need more of in the party. I'd like to be seeing more of him one way or the other.

Bigredhunk

(1,368 posts)
54. -
Thu Feb 23, 2017, 04:45 AM
Feb 2017

I like all 3 of the top choices. Whomever is picked, I went libs to focus on the enemy(ies)...Trump & all r's. I know it's tough to get over the primaries, but move the fuck on people. If memory serves, people got over Obama/HRC in 2008 faster than this, right?

I hate the idea of losing Ellison (he said he'd resign from his house seat) though.

BainsBane

(53,141 posts)
56. Which is the one who said women need to take a back seat to men
Thu Feb 23, 2017, 07:05 AM
Feb 2017

that Jehmu Green referenced on Morning Joy?

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