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JHan

(10,173 posts)
Thu Feb 23, 2017, 11:16 PM Feb 2017

Lawrence O'Donnell picked up on something I missed...

.. having to do with dress and fashion.

Trump is obsessed with personal appearance, was annoyed by Sean Spicer's* suit, even John Bolton's moustache was too intolerable for him, yet Steve Bannon, his closest advisor, looks like a bum.

What you wear speaks volumes, whether you dress to impress or dress to offend - even if you dress without a care.

Trump's rules of attire don't apply to Bannon and the message he's sending is: Trump has no power over me.

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Lawrence O'Donnell picked up on something I missed... (Original Post) JHan Feb 2017 OP
great observation.... chillfactor Feb 2017 #1
O'Donnell's segment was amazing. Not only that but his guest pointed out Bannon's snobbery KittyWampus Feb 2017 #2
Oh say it ain't so! A conservative intellectual snob! mtngirl47 Feb 2017 #24
Yep and CPAC was telling.. JHan Feb 2017 #38
Bannon is a phony intellectual; a poseur. eppur_se_muova Feb 2017 #42
Exactly. NT enough Feb 2017 #48
Believe it or not, Bannon lives in a golden palace kskiska Feb 2017 #58
I'm watching. Lawrence has a lot of good info on his show tonight. Psychiatrist who's going to napi21 Feb 2017 #3
I've been curious about this. What did the psychiatrist say? Pacifist Patriot Feb 2017 #52
Wow. So it really is President Bannon. NT Ilsa Feb 2017 #4
Just call him bdamomma Feb 2017 #5
I can't prove nuthin of course, but I get the feeling that DFT is terrified of Bannon. Leghorn21 Feb 2017 #6
Who wouldn't be scared of Bannon? The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2017 #10
He's scared Bannon's stank ass will sit down in on his furniture uponit7771 Feb 2017 #16
Plastic tarps to the Oval Office -- stat ! nt eppur_se_muova Feb 2017 #44
Does Bannon have something on him as well? Maybe Bannon is a Putin plant to keep him in line... Amaryllis Feb 2017 #22
their views probably align .. generally.. JHan Feb 2017 #35
I believe that Lawrence is hoping that Trump is watching and is baiting him BIG TIME. Marie Marie Feb 2017 #7
Missed the bit at the end, some reference to 'Dirty Old Man' comment? HipChick Feb 2017 #8
Media in Europe (esp. France) are showing photos of Bannon together with Marion Marchal-Le Pen ... eppur_se_muova Feb 2017 #45
Makes you think Bannon must have Polaroid pictures of Trump madaboutharry Feb 2017 #9
"Trump is obsessed with personal appearance" LakeArenal Feb 2017 #11
haha his narcissism gets in the way lol JHan Feb 2017 #25
Exactly! He's a mess himself. smirkymonkey Feb 2017 #55
Bannon must be higher than him in the "Family". ? nt joet67 Feb 2017 #12
He's Trump's Svengali JHan Feb 2017 #23
If he is right, we are so very.... Delmette2.0 Feb 2017 #13
It really doesn't surprise me though.. JHan Feb 2017 #21
Very interesting. zentrum Feb 2017 #14
Agreed, he sees Trump as a conduit.. JHan Feb 2017 #20
All you have to do zentrum Feb 2017 #34
I noticed that, too... IthinkThereforeIAM Feb 2017 #15
He's the odd one out, image wise.. JHan Feb 2017 #19
Bannon is wealthy. dawg Feb 2017 #17
so is rex tillerson, betsy de vos and the rest of his cabinet picks for the most part. JHan Feb 2017 #18
They could probably dress any way they wanted to as well. dawg Feb 2017 #27
Not what has been reported. Trump comments on clothing/how everyone looks. KittyWampus Feb 2017 #31
Dolt45 dresses like shit. MontanaMama Feb 2017 #26
Dolt45 dresses like shit. LenaBaby61 Feb 2017 #41
Match his looks Cha Feb 2017 #50
Have you noticed how long Trump's ties are? Fantastic Anarchist Feb 2017 #54
Yes! He's ridiculous. MontanaMama Feb 2017 #57
interesting comments northoftheborder Feb 2017 #28
So I guess Putin's going shirtless again in their first face to face. briv1016 Feb 2017 #29
might as well.......... also...... JHan Feb 2017 #32
Lawrence HoosierDebbie Feb 2017 #30
I have a huge crush MontanaMama Feb 2017 #51
Dress is the informal power structure... CincyDem Feb 2017 #33
Yup JHan Feb 2017 #39
Completely agree Pacifist Patriot Feb 2017 #53
Bannon could trash donnie's image in a heartbeat unblock Feb 2017 #36
Drumpf should look in the mirror. He looks like a minor mob boss. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2017 #37
Look at the bad spray tan/make-up job in that photo! smirkymonkey Feb 2017 #56
Its not just his dress LiberalLovinLug Feb 2017 #40
Good point. zentrum Feb 2017 #43
Bannon's behavior tells me... dchill Feb 2017 #46
Lawrence had a FB live tonight, and was talking about his Bannon 'unshaven' look HipChick Feb 2017 #47
Excellent point. trump looks like a slob too. Cha Feb 2017 #49
 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
2. O'Donnell's segment was amazing. Not only that but his guest pointed out Bannon's snobbery
Thu Feb 23, 2017, 11:21 PM
Feb 2017

Bannon's intellectual snobbery.

mtngirl47

(987 posts)
24. Oh say it ain't so! A conservative intellectual snob!
Fri Feb 24, 2017, 12:28 AM
Feb 2017

I thought only Librals could be intellectual snobs!

eppur_se_muova

(36,247 posts)
42. Bannon is a phony intellectual; a poseur.
Fri Feb 24, 2017, 01:07 AM
Feb 2017

He keeps using words and phrases which ... well ...



He apparently thinks "deconstruction" means a literal "tearing down". It does not.

de·con·struc·tion
ˌdēkənˈstrəkSHən/
noun
noun: deconstruction

a method of critical analysis of philosophical and literary language that emphasizes the internal workings of language and conceptual systems, the relational quality of meaning, and the assumptions implicit in forms of expression.


And "church militant" does not refer to a person (Bannon made a reference to his followers as "church militants".



They may have tried to educate him at Harvard, but he seems to have deflected their efforts rather effectively. He is no more an "intellectual" than Newt Gingrich, another "revolutionary" Republican phony.

napi21

(45,806 posts)
3. I'm watching. Lawrence has a lot of good info on his show tonight. Psychiatrist who's going to
Thu Feb 23, 2017, 11:21 PM
Feb 2017

explain why he believes the Con is nuts!

Pacifist Patriot

(24,652 posts)
52. I've been curious about this. What did the psychiatrist say?
Fri Feb 24, 2017, 01:12 PM
Feb 2017

Did he reference the Hare PCL-R? I ask because I am convinced that whatever else is wrong with that man, he has got to score highly as a psychopath. It would take a lot for someone to talk me down from this position. There is only one item on the check list that I think doesn't seem to apply. Everything else positively screams Donald.

Leghorn21

(13,523 posts)
6. I can't prove nuthin of course, but I get the feeling that DFT is terrified of Bannon.
Thu Feb 23, 2017, 11:24 PM
Feb 2017

Why when how, I dunno, but while everyone else has to kowtow and flatter manbaby, I think Bannon's berating the crap out of him. Just MHO!

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,596 posts)
10. Who wouldn't be scared of Bannon?
Thu Feb 23, 2017, 11:38 PM
Feb 2017

The guy is terrifying. We finally got someone in our government who out-evils Dick Cheney.

Amaryllis

(9,524 posts)
22. Does Bannon have something on him as well? Maybe Bannon is a Putin plant to keep him in line...
Fri Feb 24, 2017, 12:26 AM
Feb 2017

so he doesn't quit because he doesn't seem to be enjoying the job that much.

JHan

(10,173 posts)
35. their views probably align .. generally..
Fri Feb 24, 2017, 12:52 AM
Feb 2017

remember as well that Trump loved Breitbart because they pushed his birtherism nonsense.

Marie Marie

(9,999 posts)
7. I believe that Lawrence is hoping that Trump is watching and is baiting him BIG TIME.
Thu Feb 23, 2017, 11:25 PM
Feb 2017

Just rubbing his face in the fact that Bannon is the actual power behind the throne and he is doing it beautifully. Lawrence has been excellent in his handling of Trump.

madaboutharry

(40,190 posts)
9. Makes you think Bannon must have Polaroid pictures of Trump
Thu Feb 23, 2017, 11:31 PM
Feb 2017

that he is using to blackmail him. Maybe that is how Bannon got on the National Security Counsel.
He is controlling Trump.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
55. Exactly! He's a mess himself.
Fri Feb 24, 2017, 03:21 PM
Feb 2017

Hugely overweight, badly dressed, bloated face, ridiculous looking hair. How dare he criticize anybody for their appearance!

JHan

(10,173 posts)
21. It really doesn't surprise me though..
Fri Feb 24, 2017, 12:25 AM
Feb 2017

When Trump assembled his econ advisory team during the campaign, I knew it was a fuck up. All of them align with Bannon in one way or the other and they all see federal government as the enemy.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
14. Very interesting.
Fri Feb 24, 2017, 12:05 AM
Feb 2017

Bet Bannon, being the smart one, has great contempt for Rump but realizes his usefulness to his radical project which is to set up a Klan Kountry over which he is King.

JHan

(10,173 posts)
20. Agreed, he sees Trump as a conduit..
Fri Feb 24, 2017, 12:24 AM
Feb 2017

..easy to do since Trump holds no convictions beyond Donald Trump.

IthinkThereforeIAM

(3,075 posts)
15. I noticed that, too...
Fri Feb 24, 2017, 12:08 AM
Feb 2017

... Bannon appear as if someone tossed him a battery operated shaver. And that's it, besides generally clean looking clothes (Trump clothes?). He still looked like Chet from Weird Science.

JHan

(10,173 posts)
18. so is rex tillerson, betsy de vos and the rest of his cabinet picks for the most part.
Fri Feb 24, 2017, 12:22 AM
Feb 2017

they all dress immaculately.

Image is everything for Trump.

Bannon doesn't care about that, and Trump is fine with this power play - that's Lawrence's point.

dawg

(10,621 posts)
27. They could probably dress any way they wanted to as well.
Fri Feb 24, 2017, 12:32 AM
Feb 2017

Trump respects them for their enormous wealth.

The only people he has criticized over "image" matters have been poor people. You know, mere millionaires.

MontanaMama

(23,295 posts)
26. Dolt45 dresses like shit.
Fri Feb 24, 2017, 12:29 AM
Feb 2017

His suits don't fit, his golf clothes look even worse, his hats are stuuuuupid looking...Agent Orange wears scotch tape in place of a tie tack. He's ridiculous. He's not much better than Bannon.

LenaBaby61

(6,972 posts)
41. Dolt45 dresses like shit.
Fri Feb 24, 2017, 01:00 AM
Feb 2017

I'd probably have to wear a nose plug if I ever stood next to jabba the bannon, and thank God I'll never stand next to that Leninist fool.



Look at that. DISGUSTING, lacquered-haired, big-bellied sloppy hog (Sorry hogs).



MontanaMama

(23,295 posts)
57. Yes! He's ridiculous.
Fri Feb 24, 2017, 06:25 PM
Feb 2017

It is ironic how critical he is of the appearance of others and he's such a disaster himself. Total denial. I'm really not comfortable shaming someone else for their appearance - I'm not perfect by any means - but he is so awful to other people in regards to how they look and dress.

HoosierDebbie

(289 posts)
30. Lawrence
Fri Feb 24, 2017, 12:40 AM
Feb 2017

Lawrence looked especially handsome and dapper in his program tonight. Ultimate contrast between the Bannon look and his own. Immaculate grooming and precise tailoring. I am especially impressed.

MontanaMama

(23,295 posts)
51. I have a huge crush
Fri Feb 24, 2017, 10:46 AM
Feb 2017

On Lawrence. He looks impeccable every night... and he's such a smarty. Package deal. 😍

CincyDem

(6,338 posts)
33. Dress is the informal power structure...
Fri Feb 24, 2017, 12:50 AM
Feb 2017


...sitting in a B2B selling seminar several years ago. Consultant is talking about his time as a B2B selling guy...and he's got a pretty well documented history of doing it well...he starts talking about the "know your real customer" rule. Figuring out who in the room was the real power in the decision making process.

His golden rule - if everyone is wearing "the uniform", the guy who isn't is the guy in charge. If the uniform is surfing shirts and shorts - the guy with the button down is in charge. If the uniform is suits and ties, the guy in with no tie and a sports coat is in charge.

His point - it ain't perfect but in his experience, it was a 90-95% that the guy out of uniform was the one guy who didn't have to wear it.

Lawrence is spot on with this one.

unblock

(52,118 posts)
36. Bannon could trash donnie's image in a heartbeat
Fri Feb 24, 2017, 12:53 AM
Feb 2017

donnie can survive horrible stories on cnn, abc, etc., but if he loses breitbart, he's toast.

bannon's got donnie over a barrel.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,708 posts)
37. Drumpf should look in the mirror. He looks like a minor mob boss.
Fri Feb 24, 2017, 12:54 AM
Feb 2017



He looks like a freaking extra on the cast of The Departed or Black Mass.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,164 posts)
40. Its not just his dress
Fri Feb 24, 2017, 12:57 AM
Feb 2017

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To me it is like looking at the portrait of Dorian Gray. All the evil he has perpetrated is shown on his face. He looks decrepit unclean and worn out by the devil.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
43. Good point.
Fri Feb 24, 2017, 01:08 AM
Feb 2017

The Portrait of Dorian Gray should start to become a best seller just like 1984 is.

He looks debauched, drug-using, miserable and mean.

HipChick

(25,485 posts)
47. Lawrence had a FB live tonight, and was talking about his Bannon 'unshaven' look
Fri Feb 24, 2017, 02:40 AM
Feb 2017

He's much more handsome that slob Bannon...Lawrence will be back Mon...


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