Democratic State REP Tells Kansas Governor Sam Brownback To "GROW UP, YOU'RE ACTING LIKE A CHILD""

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" With the Supreme Court's decision to uphold the health care law, the focus now shifts to the states, whose leaders are charged with implementing portions of the legislation, including health care exchanges and potential expansions of Medicaid enrollment.Amid the heated discussions at the state level on Thursday, a Democratic state representative told Kansas' Republican governor to "grow up" because of his resistance to the law, while a Democratic state senator in Nebraska promised a full-scale battle over Medicaid expansion.



Dozens of states have waited for the high court's ruling before beginning to set up exchanges. The deadline for setting up fully state-controlled exchanges has passed. States can run a hybrid exchange with the federal government but must arrange for this by 2014. Those states that do not adopt either of these types of exchanges would have one run by the federal government. Kansas Gov. Sam Brownback, a Republican who in the past has rejected federal funds for an exchange, remains unwavering in his opposition to the health care law. Brownback, who as a U.S. senator voted against the legislation in 2010, has instead said that he expects Mitt Romney to be elected president and roll back the law.



"The Brownback Administration continues to oppose ObamaCare and will not take any action to implement it," Sherriene Jones-Sontag, a Brownback spokeswoman, wrote in an email on Thursday. "This is now a political issue that will be resolved by the American people in the November elections."



Kansas state Rep. Mike Slattery (D-Mission) attacked Brownback's stance. "It's ridiculous, the Brownback administration is showing that ideology is above following federal law," Slattery said. "As a Kansan I'm furious. He is breaking federal law and that is politics at its utter worst. It is embarassing and utter nonsense. I say grow up. You are governor of one of the 50 states and you're acting like a child."





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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/28/health-care-reform-battle-states_n_1635545.html


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[asjr]

2. I consider their actions treason at its very roots.

[asjr]

4. I've referred to the Republican party

as the Reptilian Party . At one time the party made sense and worked for our country. I used to be a Republican. After Reagan and Poppy Bush I became so disgusted I voted for my first Democrat--Bill Clinton and have never turned back. What we have now are a bunch of snakes in the grass pretending to have our country first in their agenda--and most of them are poisonous.

[INdemo]

13. How 'bout as far back as Hoover or even Calvin Coolidge?

They have been trying to destroy our democracy since the '20's and if, God forbid ,Romney gets in we are finished and then the Teabaggers will really have something to cry about.

[cstanleytech]

14. Look up the definition of treason then because its not that.

They are however complete and utter assholes.

[cstanleytech]

20. Still not treason imo.

treach·er·y? ?[trech-uh-ree] noun, plural treach·er·ies.
1.
violation of faith; betrayal of trust; treason.
2.
an act of perfidy, faithlessness, or treason.


The proper word imo is criminal specifically #4 and potentially #1 if they violate federal law shortly followed by #6.

crim·i·nal? ?[krim-uh-nl] adjective
1.
of the nature of or involving crime.
2.
guilty of crime.
3.
Law . of or pertaining to crime or its punishment: a criminal proceeding.
4.
senseless; foolish: It's criminal to waste so much good food.
5.
exorbitant; grossly overpriced: They charge absolutely criminal prices.
noun
6.
a person guilty or convicted of a crime.

[cstanleytech]

28. Well you see thats just it, we are talking the dictionary defintion.

Now the legal definition of treason is specific

Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.


Now are they really guilty of treason under the law? No.
Doesnt mean they arent assholes though for doing this.

[calimary]

36. Seriously - if you consider they're willfully obstructing the Commander-in-Chief during wartime.

We ARE still at war. That makes whoever sits behind the big desk in the Oval Office is a War President. The Commander-in-Chief, not just figuratively but literally. To obstruct the Commander-in-Chief during a time of war can CERTAINLY be viewed as an act of treason.

Or look at it another way. Theirs. What if the situation were the other way around, and it was a republi-CON who was president during wartime. WHILE. Our. Nation. Was. Quite. Literally. At. WAR. Any guesses as to how they'd be bellyaching out loud against us? It's already happened. Throughout the entire nightmare of the bush2 years after the invasion of Iraq in 2003. Hell, ann coulter even wrote a book called "treason" that was all about how "treasonous" all liberals and Democrats are.

[lpbk2713]

5. Acting like a pouty rethuglican ... which is the same thing.

      [big] "WAAAH!! No fair!!" [/big]

[Odin2005]

6. Teabaggerism and emotional immaturity go hand in hand.

[RKP5637]

7. One can just look at Brownback and tell he's a childish damn fool, and then he

speaks, and then it's really confirmed.

[proud2BlibKansan]

8. Mike's my rep!!

He's awesome.

But he's stepping down because he's moving out of state.

He will be missed.

[SunSeeker]

9. K&R

[EC]

10. Walker's doing the same.

He announced he's waiting until after the election in Nov. When do the feds step in and set up the exchanges? After the Jan. deadline or before?

[sulphurdunn]

11. When state governors

have refused to obey federal law in the past the outcomes have been very unpleasant. Fortunately, none of the present Republican governors refusing to obey the law have any guts. Let's hope the Democrats finally do.

[INdemo]

12. Do these A..hole governors know something about the November elections

that we dont...Is the fix in already?

[cstanleytech]

15. Most likely they are hoping for a last minute hail mary of

the republicans either gaining majority control over the senate and house or atleast over one of them and gaining the whitehouse but regardless of their reasons they are still complete and utter assholes as I said in another post in the thread.

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31. Romney will win Kansas.

Maybe Brownback thinks that's all he needs.

I've always disliked Brownback. He's the epitome of conservative talking points rolled up into one stupid looking package.

[mysuzuki2]

16. Rmoney isn't going to roll back anything, even if he is elected in Nov.

That would take congressional action. That's why the House and Senate elections are as important as the presidential election.

[Segami]

34. You are correct. Why aren't the MSM calling him out on his misleading position?

[nadinbrzezinski]

38. DING, DING, DING, DING, we got a winnah!!!

As to why... large media no longer asks any hard questions.

[cstanleytech]

21. Can they be impeached for violating federal law that has been settled by SCOTUS?

Also if their state legislatures refuse to impeach them can the federal government remove them from office?

[Kennah]

32. Do you mean if states refuse to set up exchanges?

I am given to understand that if a state does not set up an exchange, the law allows for the feds to do it for that state.

[cstanleytech]

33. No, I mean if they outright try to block it in their states even a federal run one.

[Kennah]

35. They would have a tough time with that one, but it would be possible

If Kansas refused to set up an exchange, then the feds do it for them. A Kansan who wanted to sign up could probably go online to do it. However, there would likely have to be the means to walk into the state office that administers Medicaid to sign up for the exchange, and in Kansas I believe that is the Kansas Department of Health and Environment.

Yes, Brownback could post Kansas State Troopers at every KDHE office to turn people away who wanted to sign up for the exchange. I suspect that would lead to the Federalization of Kansas National Guard troops, and perhaps even regular Army troops like the First Infantry Division.

Every now and again, perhaps we need to see armed U.S. troops marching in to enforce the will of the people because of fuckheads who serve the 1 percent.

[cecilfirefox]

23. I'm in Kansas, Matt Slattery shares the same last name as a former

Democratic Rep for the 2nd congressional district here in Kansas. I suspect that's his son.

[proud2BlibKansan]

24. Yes, Mike is Jim's son.

Mike is also the only Democratic rep from Johnson County. He's done a great job for his constituents.

[SpankMe]

25. Excellent - good for Slattery!

We need a lot more Dems who'll speak out like this. I guarantee we'd take more elections - and by wider margins - if we pushed back like this more and got our message out more forcefully.

Trying to get along with Republicans by compromising and focusing on "staying above the fray" has gotten us nothing. We haven't moved Republican legislators to vote with us on many issues at all by being kind, conciliatory and appealing to the bigger picture of public duty and serving the interests of the people. We haven't even drawn any of their votes when we draft legislation that is essentially made up of their own ideas, but with tweaks to make it appeal to our fellow Dems!

Repubs have responded by spitting it back in our face, stonewalling and stubbornly adhering to their uncompromising hard right ideology.

[cecilfirefox]

26. I always tell Democrats, treat the opposition the way you expect Margaret Thatcher would treat her

opposition. Now that's the tone we need to set.

[SpankMe]

27. Absolutely! n/t

[nadinbrzezinski]

37. So what happens when Romney does not win in November?

We secede? I am not kidding here... given the attitude, this IS a valid question.

[Scurrilous]

39. K & R