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Skittles
(153,174 posts)and then they have the GALL to call themselves "Christians"
Guilded Lilly
(5,591 posts)Alice11111
(5,730 posts)dalton99a
(81,566 posts)Bleacher Creature
(11,257 posts)Marie Marie
(9,999 posts)Crunchy Frog
(26,613 posts)FSogol
(45,519 posts)ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)These "poor" have other luxury items such as:
Clothing
Food
Water
Air
pstokely
(10,530 posts)furniture
high miliage cars
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)Skittles
(153,174 posts)although I believe the internet is a necessity now
no way can people keep up or get ahead without access to the internet
Grammy23
(5,810 posts)for access to computers and the internet.
Skittles
(153,174 posts)quite simply, repukes detest the poor
spanone
(135,859 posts)LuckyLib
(6,819 posts)Even as a kid I knew they were taking on political/social hot potatoes.
Cha
(297,511 posts)pstokely
(10,530 posts)how can they afford cable if they are poor?
Cha
(297,511 posts)arthritisR_US
(7,291 posts)Grassy Knoll
(10,118 posts)Panich52
(5,829 posts)At least they dumped "fair & balanced" tag before someone sued em f/ false advertising.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,818 posts)Poor people are supposed to be barefoot and dressed in rags. Why are they even living indoors? Hey, the Dalits in India are poor. If you aren't living like one of them you aren't poor; if you have any appliances, let alone a car or a cellphone, you shouldn't ask for help from the government.
cagefreesoylentgreen
(838 posts)They seem to be working towards making the American poor live like Indian Dalits.
pamela
(3,469 posts)Last edited Thu Mar 9, 2017, 04:04 AM - Edit history (1)
if they didn't spend their money on luxuries like refrigerators.
Beaverhausen
(24,470 posts)Fuck these people.
Charles Bukowski
(1,132 posts)Mr. Coffee - $20
Fridge - $200-$300 (used)
Average healthcare plan(family) - $10,000 year
I'm stunned that these scumbags are actually doubling down on this argument. Comparing household appliances (which typically last years) to medical insurance is INSANE.
TexasBushwhacker
(20,209 posts)You can get a working coffee maker for $5 to $10. Microwaves for $30 to $50.
Since the poor are disproportionately renters, they have refrigerators because they come with the fucking apartment!
People have been giving away big screen TVs, the kind that weigh a ton and take 2 people and a dolly to move, or selling them for less than $100.
meadowlander
(4,402 posts)They have good times and setbacks.
I have a fridge because it came with my apartment. I don't actually own it. And before I was poor, I bought small appliances (horror of horrors!) If I pawned them used, I would get maybe $50 for the lot (microwave, rice cooker, slow cooker, breadmaker, and electric kettle). Where can I get health care for those $50?
And when you have basically nothing, every little thing you do have that makes your life easier increases in value exponentially. My small kitchen appliances have all more than paid for themselves because I cook all my meals at home instead of eating out.
For example, my breadmaker cost $200. Every time I use it, I save $2 a loaf. I use it every week. It paid for itself in 2 years and is still going strong at 5 years. So I'm actually $312 ahead on it. If I pawned it for $10, it would only be five weeks before the cost of now having to buy all my bread ate away at of the profit I made by selling it.
If I make six servings of soup in a $40 slow cooker and the ingredients cost $5, I only have to do that twice before the slow cooker has paid for itself compared with the cost of having 6 meals at a fast food joint at $5 a meal.
Likewise, having the microwave so it is easy to reheat leftovers without dirtying even more pots and pans that I have to wash by hand because I can't afford a dishwasher means that I cook at home more often instead of eating out.
And all of those things mean I eat healthier and am less likely to need health care.
Republicans pay lip service to being frugal and "pulling yourself up by your bootstraps" but this is how poor people actually do it. They gather and hang on to the tools that save them money and make their lives easier. The fact that they have them doesn't mean that they aren't poor and struggling. It just means that they aren't destitute.
susanna
(5,231 posts)Thank you. It illustrates what many of us go through every single day.
I am so glad you wrote and shared this.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Lou Dobbs.
A HERETIC I AM
(24,376 posts)And the Dow and the S&P were at those levels in 2012
Varney has consistently been a giant horses ass for quite a while. He seems to HATE poor people
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)financial people left CNBC and went to the FOX financial channel, which is nothing. (They sponsored one of the debates and no one could find it.) Before that, Varney already did this FOX financial show, at least it is supposed to be a financial show. It is really a political fake news financial show, bash the left with ludicrous claims. Eric Boling, yuk, is on it now, and an anchor on Fox News. He was kicked off CNBC options show because he was a RW nut. Brenda Buckner too was on the Fox Sat or Sunday, whichever, morning financial show. She died recently.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Not Stuart Varney.
A HERETIC I AM
(24,376 posts)Lou Dobbs
Stuart Varney
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Guess it's time for a new prescription!
A HERETIC I AM
(24,376 posts)Alice11111
(5,730 posts)In fact, they just get bolder with time. Basically, they would be fine if they just turned all of the Dems, poor, & disabled into slaves. There are a lot of good souled rich people...Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, George Soros, many more. The RW rich HATE these people. They have hated Warren Buffet ever since he came out in favor of reinstating the estate tax to the Clinton years. It's about 11$ million for a couple now, the exemption...poor millionaires and billionaires have to pay taxes on their money above that, at least to the extent they can't get rid of it with fancy trusts, RE exchanges, and all of the other hundreds of ways to avoid taxes.
Shame on you people, you want to rob them in their graves. Death tax!
Worktodo
(288 posts)if you're poor you get assistance. If you're wealthy you don't need it. But if you're in the middle (or even just barely above poverty) you get nothing. I think this is intentional to generate class resentment. People aren't "voting against their interests" (per se). They are angry about paying for a system that provides little benefit to them. Fox News is a cess pit but they didn't make the stink.
Crunchy Frog
(26,613 posts)with no electricity, running water, or indoor toilets.
They want us back in the 19th Century, only with 21st Century chemical toxins and state surveillance.
world wide wally
(21,752 posts)I never thought that poor was synonymous with stupid.
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)the workers. I'm not a communist, and I probably don't have to be apologetic here. However, he was a political and economic philosopher and historian. He was and is correct.
He also said that capitalism would eventually implode. We have not been a pure capitalist system. There really aren't any. However, we are getting closer.
AllaN01Bear
(18,346 posts)a friend gave me a toster oven , my folks gave me a electric skillet . i am sick of this meme.
caroldansen
(725 posts)"He that giveth to the poor lendeth to The Lord and the Lord will pay him again." God loves the poor even if the Republicans dont.
GWC58
(2,678 posts)Woe be onto those hypocrites. I could not watch one second of FAUXSNOOZE without barfing my innards up. Stuart Varney is a useless weasel!👺
dchill
(38,517 posts)to keep these horrible thoughts to themselves. Oh, right. They have no shame.
Guilded Lilly
(5,591 posts)That Karma has them on her top priority list.
And here's hoping she will be as merciful as they are compassionate.
Bastards, the lot of them.
MFM008
(19,818 posts)like Carl in the movie 'Sling Blade' your not poor?
GWC58
(2,678 posts)You have a shovel? You're not poor then!
your right.
These are people who would cut off your fingers if you dug it by hand..........
Initech
(100,099 posts)Panich52
(5,829 posts)Initech
(100,099 posts)As well as the enablers of the GOP and McConnell and Ryan.
Maru Kitteh
(28,342 posts)"Poor" in quotation marks. How does one become this hateful and loathsome?
stopbush
(24,396 posts)Five years ago, I got a free dishwasher on Craigslist. It was a year old. A person in the neighborhood redid their kitchen and changed all the appliances. Put the old ones on CL for free.
In the past two years (at a new rental), bought a used side-by-side fridge for $75, an over-the-range microwave for $50 and another dishwasher for $75 including installation and delivery.
In general, if you need a new appliance - especially a microwave - check CL. College kids are buying those things and selling them in next-to-new condition all the time. Neighbors have appliances in great shape that the sell when they remodel.
And all kinds of appliances get left at the curb as a free giveaway to anyone with a way to haul it home. Again, check Craigslist.
You can get a brand new coffee maker for $10.
Faux News idiots.