Wikileaks server now located in Moscow?

[GliderGuider]

I didn't notice this at the time, but last October their website moved to a Russian-owned IP address. Curiouser and curioser.

Dated October 23, 2016:

https://nationonenews.com/2016/10/23/wikileaks-website-is-hosted-in-russia.html
A strange thing happened today. The DNS records for the Wikileaks site were updated.

DNS is the service that takes the name of a website such as “wikileaks.org” and translates it to an IP Address. When you connected to a website your computer automatically looks up the IP Address of the website using the name you provide.

Two addresses were added to the list of IP Addresses today. Both of those Addresses are located in Russia! This is not a JOKE! When you go to wikileaks.org, you are connecting to a server that is in The Netherlands, Norway, or Russia. Until today Wikileaks.org did not use a Russian IP Address.

It supports my suspicion that Wikileaks is now a Russian disinfo operation.

[get the red out]

1. Circumstantial evidence

This much circumstantial evidence could get someone a life sentence in a murder trial! And it has!

[uponit7771]

7. +1

[FakeNoose]

48. ???

Are you saying the Russians murdered Julian Assange and stole the Wikileaks website?
Not sure what you're saying here. Maybe an actor is impersonating J.A. How would we know?

[get the red out]

65. NO

I was attempting an analogy, if a person can be convicted of murder on circumstantial evidence, how can anyone pretend there is nothing on Trump!

[stevenleser]

2. I suspect it always was a Russian disinformation operation. From the very first video.

When pressed on the "Collateral murder" video, Assange acknowledged a couple of key points that showed that he completely spun what happened into an unfair characterization of the events.

Everything about wikileaks has been disinformation against the US from the beginning. The only question was, to what end.

Now we know to what end.

[Hekate]

56. [phone]

[dalton99a]

3. Wikileaks is a wholly owned subsidiary of the Kremlin

[stevenleser]

4. And by the way, Russian state media has always loved Wikileaks from the get go.

When I was still doing RT appearances, I was asked about information in Wikileaks several times. They were more up on what came out of Wikileaks releases than anyone else and were hawking them every chance they got.

It all begins to make sense.

[moondust]

17. Maybe you saw this.

Rachel Maddow revealed this last night:

Link to tweet

/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

[GliderGuider]

23. Gee, what a time-travel coincidence!

Not.

[stevenleser]

27. Thanks for that. I hadn't seen it but its just more evidence of what I was talking about.

I haven't watched much TV for the last two years since my youngest daughter was born so I missed that but it completely is in line with everything else that you see when you take a look at what the facts are regarding Wikileaks.

I always suspected something was amiss with Wikileaks but I assumed Assange was simply a negative nationalist ( see http://orwell.ru/library/essays/nationalism/english/e_nat ) with the US and Western Europe as his chosen antagonists. Now it seems that there was a more affirmative reason for what he and Wikileaks was doing.

[Eyeball_Kid]

5. Hokey Smokes

This is something that ought to get wide circulation, even if it did back in October.

It's exactly what a news media anchor ought to cover.

[MineralMan]

6. Julian Assange is an anarchist.

His goal, along with Bannon's, is to dismantle governments and create chaotic conditions that will lead the way to a simpler tyrannical government system. Assange, of course, will be a close adviser to those tyrannies. Putin, on the other hand, is such a tyrant. As long as Assange is useful to him, he will allow Julian to live.

Assange was never a leftist, unless you consider anarchy to be a leftist philosophy.

[stevenleser]

10. I think that was how Assange spun himself and it was a cute reason for doing what he was doing

that many people bought.

The reality is, almost all of Wikileaks attacks were focused on the United States and Western Europe. Sure, he might have thrown one or two things in different directions to try to appear as if he wasn't on Putin's payroll, but looking back it's pretty clear what Assange and Wikileaks was about.

[MineralMan]

13. He has focused on the US and Western Europe because they are the

most stable governments. If their governments can be destroyed, anarchy is more easily achieved. It's so simple, really, for people like Assange to understand.

[stevenleser]

14. Again, I think that is how he would spin it. The Russian DNS entry and always coming down on the

side of the Kremlin would lead one to a different conclusion.

[Dr Hobbitstein]

9. Just verified it on MXToolbox

141.105.69.239 wikileaks.org Reported by ns1.hostkey.ru on 3/10/2017 at 3:13:40 PM (UTC 0)

[dalton99a]

11. +1

[GliderGuider]

19. +1 Thanks for the verification. nt

[lagomorph777]

12. Every day, reporters should shout to Agent Orange: "Do you still love Wikileaks?"

It'll piss him off and maybe he'll eventually pop an artery.

[Hekate]

58. You notice he avoids actual reporters like the plague

[world wide wally]

15. What month was it that Trump said, "I love Wikileaks"?

[Fla Dem]

43. October 10, 2016 see video.

On 7 October 2016, WikiLeaks began publishing thousands of emails that it said were from Podesta's Gmail account. The first batch of emails were released less than one hour after The Washington Post published a controversial video of Donald Trump making lewd comments about women.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Podesta_emails

[world wide wally]

64. Gee.... right after they moved to Russia... Imagine that.

[BainsBane]

16. It absolutely is a Kremlin outfit

Malcom Nance has said its role is to launder Kremlin intelligence hacks.

[flamingdem]

18. What is meant by "launder intelligence hacks"

Cover up their source?

[GliderGuider]

21. Yes, info is laundered for the same reasons money is laundered. nt

[BainsBane]

22. Yes

The Kremlin gives Wikileaks the files, and they publish it, giving the Russians plausible deniability. They probably work through an intermediary, but the intelligence agencies have been able to trace the connections.

[flamingdem]

24. They're not as smart as they think

but stopping them seems impossible.

They seem to have moles in the US government that are helping. If there's not a massive WWII type operation going on to secure information here it will continue.

[BainsBane]

26. And there isn't

Because the current president doesn't care.

[FailureToCommunicate]

20. Let's see, October 2016. I'm trying to remember what was about to happen...

Oh yeah. Guy Fawkes Day. Nothing to worry about then.

[GreatCaesarsGhost]

25. Every time the media reports on wikileaks, they should have a disclaimer

that it is a Russian propaganda agency.

[Historic NY]

28. this web site is like the Enquirer

[GliderGuider]

29. How about Dr. Hobbitstein up above?

Or these:
https://www.quora.com/Where-does-WikiLeaks-host-its-servers
https://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1/2010/12/15/wikileaks_spamhaus_trend/

They all tell the same story: Wikileaks is being hosted in Russia.
You may not like the source, but the info in this case is from standard IP lookups that anyone can do.

[stevenleser]

30. Did we criticize a sacred cow? nt

[lithiumbomb]

31. Russia, Netherlands, and Norway

While that is certainly curious, it's just one of three locations where it appears to be co-located. Visiting their website will round-robin you to one of the following addresses:


nslookup wikileaks.org
Server: 130.207.244.244
Address: 130.207.244.244#53

Non-authoritative answer:
Name: wikileaks.org
Address: 195.35.109.53
Name: wikileaks.org
Address: 195.35.109.44
Name: wikileaks.org
Address: 141.105.69.239
Name: wikileaks.org
Address: 141.105.65.113
Name: wikileaks.org
Address: 95.211.113.154
Name: wikileaks.org
Address: 95.211.113.131

195.35.109.0/24 is allocated to a provider in Norway

inetnum: 195.35.109.0 - 195.35.109.255
netname: HOST1-CNET
country: NO
org: ORG-HOST4-RIPE
admin-c: BLIX1-RIPE
tech-c: BLIX1-RIPE
status: ASSIGNED PI
mnt-by: RIPE-NCC-END-MNT
mnt-by: BLIX-MNT
mnt-routes: BLIX-MNT
mnt-domains: BLIX-MNT
created: 2012-09-03T07:29:13Z
last-modified: 2016-04-14T08:27:15Z
source: RIPE # Filtered
sponsoring-org: ORG-BGA22-RIPE

organisation: ORG-HOST4-RIPE
org-name: Host1 DA
org-type: OTHER
address: Sagveien 17, N-0459 Oslo, Norway
abuse-c: AR25154-RIPE
mnt-ref: BLIX-MNT
mnt-by: BLIX-MNT
abuse-mailbox: [e-mail]
created: 2011-06-16T11:44:59Z
last-modified: 2014-11-17T21:01:48Z
source: RIPE # Filtered

role: RIPE MANAGER
address: Gullhaugveien 1, N-0484 Oslo, Norway
admin-c: BLIX
nic-hdl: BLIX1-RIPE
mnt-by: BLIX-MNT
abuse-mailbox: [e-mail]
created: 2010-06-07T19:38:39Z
last-modified: 2014-09-30T07:39:27Z
source: RIPE # Filtered


141.105.69.0/24 is allocated to a provider in Russia

inetnum: 141.105.64.0 - 141.105.71.255
netname: RU-HOSTKEY-20110627
country: RU
org: ORG-MTL21-RIPE
admin-c: PC7356-RIPE
tech-c: PC7356-RIPE
tech-c: PC7356-RIPE
status: ALLOCATED PA
mnt-by: RIPE-NCC-HM-MNT
mnt-by: MTLM-MNT
mnt-routes: MTLM-MNT
remarks: abuse-mailbox: [e-mail]
created: 2011-06-27T08:53:56Z
last-modified: 2016-09-30T12:14:02Z
source: RIPE # Filtered

organisation: ORG-MTL21-RIPE
org-name: Mir Telematiki Ltd
org-type: LIR
address: Barabannii pereulok 4/4
address: 107023
address: Moscow
address: RUSSIAN FEDERATION
phone: [phone]
fax-no: [phone]
mnt-ref: MTLM-MNT
mnt-ref: RIPE-NCC-HM-MNT
mnt-by: RIPE-NCC-HM-MNT
mnt-by: MTLM-MNT
abuse-mailbox: [e-mail]
abuse-c: HA2800-RIPE
created: 2010-10-06T10:46:46Z
last-modified: 2016-09-30T12:14:19Z
source: RIPE # Filtered

person: Peter Chayanov
address: Moscow, Russia
phone: [phone]
nic-hdl: PC7356-RIPE
mnt-by: MTLM-MNT
abuse-mailbox: [e-mail]
created: 2008-10-19T20:57:02Z
last-modified: 2015-12-25T05:44:46Z
source: RIPE

95.211.0.0/16 is allocated to a provider in The Netherlands

inetnum: 95.211.0.0 - 95.211.2.159
netname: LEASEWEB
descr: LeaseWeb Netherlands B.V.
remarks: Please send all abuse notifications to the following email address: [e-mail]. To ensure proper processing of your abuse notification, please visit the website www.leaseweb.com/abuse for notification requirements. All police and other government agency requests must be sent to [e-mail].
country: NL
admin-c: LSW1-RIPE
tech-c: LSW1-RIPE
status: ASSIGNED PA
mnt-by: LEASEWEB-NL-MNT
created: 2012-01-13T11:18:58Z
last-modified: 2015-09-30T22:18:08Z
source: RIPE

person: RIP Mean
address: P.O. Box 93054
address: 1090BB AMSTERDAM
address: Netherlands
phone: [phone]
fax-no: [phone]
abuse-mailbox: [e-mail]
nic-hdl: LSW1-RIPE
mnt-by: LEASEWEB-NL-MNT
created: 2005-06-07T14:36:03Z
last-modified: 2016-09-19T15:28:58Z
source: RIPE # Filtered

[GliderGuider]

32. That means that Wikileaks can be accessed easily by the Moscow Chekists

for uploading docs, while maintaining just a shred of plausible deniability.

[SunSeeker]

37. Exactly. nt

[KPN]

33. Nation One News is hardly reputable.

[GliderGuider]

34. I've given other sources later.

The information lines up.

[KPN]

35. Thanks for that.

[bucolic_frolic]

36. "I can wire Russian banks from my house!"

She knew, this whole fiasco has been planned for a long time.

[GliderGuider]

38. Ba-da-bump!

[Texin]

39. Louise Mensch has been tweeting extensively about this within the last 24 hours.

She's posted photos of computer printouts that show a specific individual in Moscow, along with a local Moscow phone number, unbelievable. She has stated that these people (U.S.) who apparently got caught up in this FISA warrant were essentially aiding and abetting in money laundering ongoing by ALFA Bank, and tRump is apparently part of this and may have been caught in discussions related to it, along with others like Flynn, Page et al.

Ooops! I see I've duplicated information posted upthread. Sorry about that.

[GliderGuider]

41. The guy who apparently owns the Russian Wikileaks host domain

Peter Chayanov just deleted his Twitter account because Louise and another woman busted him. Fun stuff, in real time!

[GliderGuider]

42. Here's a fun tweet!

Link to tweet

[Yavin4]

40. Hard for me to imagine that the only governments that leak are all Western governments

No Russian, Chinese, Middle Eastern, etc. governments leak.

[stevenleser]

44. Funny how that works. It's really obvious when you think about it. Some folks, and you see one

post above, are desperate to still believe in the Wikileaks superhero fairy tale.

[calimary]

51. I wish that every time they mention Julian Assange, newsfolk would include

the mention of WHY he's been hiding out in the Ecuadoran embassy in London. For several years. To avoid facing RAPE charges in Sweden.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-11949341

Wouldn't you think, if he's denied these charges, he would WANT his day in court to prove his claim of innocence? Why is he hiding?

[George II]

46. Snowden earning his Russian largesse.

[Orsino]

47. I see no evidence of changes.

Authoritative servers are still on Dutch IPs, and a couple of Russian addresses are involved in hosting.

Of course, this says nothing about who's really running the domain.

[sunonmars]

49. Busted, he deleted his account

Link to tweet

[GliderGuider]

50. Fun stuff, eh? nt

[Eyeball_Kid]

52. So WikiLeaks has a branch server in Russia.

The branch server has all of the amenities as a home server.

[Else You Are Mad]

53. Simply put...

Assange is upset that the Obama administration has been seeking his extradition since he embarrassed Obama by releasing leaked information, and thus has sided with the GOP and Russia. I am not condoning his actions over the last two years at all, just giving the reason why he has gone fully Russian.

[GliderGuider]

55. And you know this how?

[Else You Are Mad]

57. Well, look what they did to Chelsea Manning...

You don't think that the administration wanted to do the same or worse to Assange. Obama was the harshest president on whistle blowers/leakers in modern history. Obama was a great president, but his biggest flaw was his war on whistleblowers.

https://theintercept.com/2016/04/06/obamas-gift-to-donald-trump-a-policy-of-cracking-down-on-journalists-and-their-sources/

[GliderGuider]

59. So you don't actually "know" it. You're assuming it.

What about the possibility that Russia bought him? Perhaps by offering him an opportunity to damage the USA and/or money?

Do you know that the Intercept is likely a Russian disinformation operation? Wikileaks, Snowden, Greenwald - all probably Russian assets. And I say this as a believer who defended all three on here for years, vociferously.

[Else You Are Mad]

60. Not everything you disagree with is a Russian operation.

And, why would an Australian seek refuge in an Ecuadorian embassy? The reason is because there are loopholes in their US extradition treaty wherein those seeking asylum with political reasons can seek asylum and avoid extradition. I wonder why he chose that nation? If he were a Russian asset from the start, why didn't he seek refuge within the Russian embassy? Maybe it is because of his exile in the embassy that caused his hatred for the Democratic party?

http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2013/06/23/why_ecuador.html

[GliderGuider]

61. He may not have been a Russian asset from the beginning

He could have fled to the Ecuadorian embassy for all the reasons you state, and been turned later. I'm not saying this is true - I don't "know" either. I'm just saying there are other possibilities. This one happens to be supported by Russian IP addresses for Wikileaks.

[Else You Are Mad]

62. So, we disagree on the reason...

But, we agree that wikileaks is now full Russian.

[GliderGuider]

63. On that, yes.

[Botany]

54. D Trump, "I love Wikileaks."

[Cha]

66. KR