Amazing. I drove from Raleigh to Asheville today - listened to NPR much of the drive

[NRaleighLiberal]

On Point, The World, Here and Now. four hours.

Essentially unanimous. Anything to do with Trump and his cabal - his decisions, his behavior, those who called in - all taken aback, amazed, clearly using term "liar". Talking about how the truth doesn't matter to this bunch - really dug in to the climate change denial. Talked about the harm this will do. The media people on the show, the hosts - totally unanimous.

So after 4 hours of this (and feeling quite depressed when I got to my destination), one question kept repeating.

What the hell do we do? Who will step up, divulge what must be known, be the hero - put aside party - do it for humanity? Has our species declined so much, has such narcissism totally taken over, that this can be allowed to stand?

[babylonsister]

1. Damn fine question.

I guess we wait for some federal agency to nail him definitively to Russia.

[Botany]

2. 2 words

Black Krim

[NRaleighLiberal]

3. so, heirloom tomatoes will show the way?

I'll see your Black Krim and raise you a Lillian's Yellow Heirloom!

[hatrack]

4. Black from Tula will have you for LUNCH!

With bacon, lettuce, mayonnaise and maybe some deli-style pickles on the side.

[NRaleighLiberal]

6. I have to go with Cherokee Purple, thanks!

[Botany]

13. How can you diss the Black Krim?

and how come you have never said that every garden needs at least one sungold?

[NRaleighLiberal]

16. Because they need at least 3!

My taste buds like Cherokee Purple more than Black Krim - could be environmental..or just personal preference!

[hatrack]

21. Thinking of growing Sungold? Remember these three words:

MAKE IT STOP!!!!

[montana_hazeleyes]

43. One Sungold plant could

support the" million tomato march".

[montana_hazeleyes]

45. I'm with you. We plant many heirloom varieties each year

and, love them all but Cherokee Purple is my favorite.

One thing I love to do is dry all the different sliced
ripe tomatoes, mix them together in gallon storage freezer bags, and keep in refrigerator.

The intense taste is out of this world. All is done organically.

[NRaleighLiberal]

46. Of course I love it...I named it!

[montana_hazeleyes]

47. You did? Super cool.

I just love the names heirlooms have and the stories behind many of the names.

[guillaumeb]

30. I planted Black Krim again last year.

They produced well into October in my garden outside of Chicago. I picked the last few tomatoes in November and was eating them into December.

[Botany]

49. 2 more awesome tomatoes for your area

1) Jet Star

b) Brandwine

[guillaumeb]

50. Thank you. I will check them out. eom

[Kablooie]

5. These are all NPR listeners though.

I doubt that any Trump supporters tune in to NPR.
They get all their news and info from Limbaugh, Fox, etc.

The propaganda channels are loaded with listeners who lap it up.

[NRaleighLiberal]

7. I know, I know - that depresses me even more!

[GWC58]

26. And don't forget

Infowars! The tin cap club!🤡

[irisblue]

29. Friday On Point b/c of the end of the week review seems to have the most aware listeners

There are always 1-3 faux believers M-Th. Horrified me that those people could find an NPR station. The host of that show seems to have a touching belief that their asinine opinions are worth trying to listen to.

[blm]

8. In town for the weekend?

We ended up in Hendersonville. ; )

[NRaleighLiberal]

11. Teaching four courses at the Organic Growers School at the UNC Asheville campus

[not fooled]

42. Wow

How cool is that? Very.

[NRaleighLiberal]

44. Feeling humbled...excited...lucky!

[kstewart33]

9. We need leadership, dang it.

It is a party issue because no one outside the party has the Democratic following to effective lead. Bernie isn't the answer because he's apparently too good to join the party that he evidently wants to lead.

So we have no leader.

Who might step up? Who should step up?

[Gabi Hayes]

10. it's going to take a prominent republican to break the fascist mold, and

I don't see one out there

the KGOP is nothing but a collection of craven, venal, hypocritical cowards, who care only for the power they've accrued and live in fear of being torn apart by the brown shirts who've taken over what was once the party of Lincoln, and turned it into the party of Mussolini.

if you're thinking, maybe, McCain. he's one of the most craven of the lot. he turned in his own senate compatriots (secret testimony over the LFSL scandal, anyone?), and lord knows what happened in VN (give him a break on that one for lack of hard evidence). and just ask his first wife what a fine man she thinks of him, how he treated her when he got home and saw how she looked after a near fatal car crash.

they're all the lowest of the low. til one proves different, that's the way it stands

[NRaleighLiberal]

12. Agreed - all this McCain and Graham stuff - bullshit.

Party before people for both of them. Reeds blowing in the reelection winds.

[blm]

14. Oddly, it could end up to be Mark Sanford.

I also wouldn't rule out someone from the Bush dynasty working behind the scenes. Bushes always maintained a power circle of intel insiders.

So…what Senate and House Republicans are the real Bush loyalists who could mount a challenge? I think there will be more than a few, but, I highly doubt ANY would come forward until the evidence dam breaks.

[Gabi Hayes]

17. heh...I typed in dumbo, but xxx'd him off. nobody takes that fool seriously. his dad

is on his final approach to hell, and Jeb, well.....



maybe the Quaker Oats guy? she's the toughest of the bunch. that'd be AWESOME. imagine Bar taking on Trump man to man, in the octagon, with the WWE, or whatever's guy, whose wife is in the cabinet (?)

don't you fuck with ME:



really, though Bar vs. Dump.....SNL skit at least, yes? haven't even had a drink yet.....

[blm]

33. heh - two go in

My money would be on Barb…..word is that she is the meanest of them all and holds the deepest grudges.

[GWC58]

27. Yeah, Country First

my ass!😤😳

[greatauntoftriplets]

15. I wish to the gods that I knew.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

18. Wish someone had listened to NPR during campaign. Remember vividly

a veteran IT manager being interviewed about Clinton's server. He was so convincing.
He said until hacking became a common word, everyone just came to work and did
their job - they didn't worry about anything behind the scenes - it was all too complicated.
They just relied on the IT gurus. He said the mistake people are making today is that
they are looking at the whole thing through 2016 eyes. She set it up 2009-early 2010.

To answer your question, think it is we who have to lead. As long as there is job growth and the stock market keeps rising, our only hope to getting rid of him is probably a clear cut case of collusion. Enough to pull 1/2 of the Republicans away from him.

[NRaleighLiberal]

19. I think so too. And we have to keep resisting - and demand the media normalization stops!

[mopinko]

20. somebody needs to spill all the secrets.

not that much of this even is secret, anymore.
hopefully maxine is gonna crack soon, and just put it aaallll out there in the public record.

[world wide wally]

22. We've become a nation of cowards

We all know what we have to do, but our people with the power to do it just want to hide under a table and protect themselves.

[progressoid]

23. Well, my wife and I are going to our county Dem meeting next week.

I can't leak any inside secrets but I'll try to fight on the local level.

[Mira]

24. I don't know the answer about from whence it will come

but end it must, and there will be heroes.
I cannot imagine that this uproar can last a year.
On the way back, in W-S, I'm ONE mile off I -40 Bus. and less than that off I-40. You are invited to stop in for tea or coffee.

[certainot]

25. you're listening to the wrong radio stations

anywhere else on the dial you'd have heard limbaugh and sons making excuses for trump and blaming obama and the democrats.

liberals ignore it so they've had a free speech free ride to lie at will repeatedly for 30 years. so now we have trump. talk radio is thte only major medium- political talk radio- with no political counterpart. ignoring it has beeen the biggest political mistake in history and now we have a talk radio president, with fox putting on the visual icing.

worse than that, we let 88 + major universities endorse 257 + limbaugh stations.

NORTH CAROLINA 16 North Carolina 8, North Carolina State 3, Duke 3, East Carolina 2

they support 16 limbaugh stations - all of them helping trump, republicans repeat obamacare, gop deny global warming, devos defund and privatize public ed, and keep transgender folk out of the bathroom.

see how fast the gop/trump falls apart when liberals stop ignoring rw radio. protest those unis until they declare they will look for apolitical alternatives. gop will freak out with even a discussion of it, media will notice, and advertisers will flee. without talk radio trump/gop has nothing

[BlancheSplanchnik]

56. This.

😪

[50 Shades Of Blue]

28. NO ONE with the power to undo Trump will do it.

Republicans are shameless. They have the White House and an unbeatable majority in both houses and thanks to Russian hacking for them, they always will.

They may fight among themselves but not one Republican will ever truly upset their rotten applecart. Not one.

[TeamPooka]

31. Trump will shut down NPR soon enough then.

[japple]

32. Turn off the talk for awhile. Just listen to the awesome power of WNCW-Spindale!!!!

http://wncw.org

Great music and more great music. Drink some of those fine craft brews in Asheville, and clean out your mind. Not sure where you are going to end up, but I hope you'll have a great weekend in AVL~

ETA: Jesus won't save us and neither will any political party. We're on our own. We have to do this for our mother earth, our species and the other species on our planet.

[bathroommonkey76]

35. I used to listen to WNCW when I lived in Johnson City

The station was very addictive- and it pissed off my ex when I would venture to my man-cave to listen to it.

[Lee-Lee]

52. WNCW is the best

I've never found a station even close.

[NRaleighLiberal]

36. Great station...we stream it sometimes

[Orrex]

34. You should have caught Morning Edition or All Things Considered

Then you'd have gotten a thorough dose of gently but clearly pro-Trump spin to help balance out all of the ugly reality that you absorbed from the other broadcasts.

[sweetloukillbot]

39. I was thinking the same thing...

They're not exactly pro-Trump to me, but certainly overplaying the "present both sides" - and asking tougher questions towards those opposing him.

[renate]

37. I suspect the intelligence community is quietly hard at work

Just because we don't know whether anything is going on doesn't mean nothing is going on.

[NRaleighLiberal]

38. I certainly hope so!

[renate]

40. I forgot to say that I was listening to NPR this afternoon too

And I heard the same kinds of things--people talking about how he's unstable and unpredictable so matter-of-factly.

I don't remember reporters even implying anything about Bush 43's lack of intellectual curiosity, for example; it certainly wasn't talked about as a given. The closest thing I can think of to the way they were talking about Trump is the way everybody simply knows that Bill Clinton is a horndog without even pretending to skirt the issue.

[NRaleighLiberal]

41. We are in uncharted territories!

[Zing Zing Zingbah]

48. It's not a species problem. It's a problem with American politicians.

They are different from regular homo sapiens.

[KG]

51. NPR was office background noise at my work during campaign. it was ludicrous how

the talking heads tried to mine, with solemn tones, some meaning out of trumpfs psychotic drivel.

[not fooled]

54. Nice turn of phrase

there's no gold down the con's mine.

[Mountain Mule]

53. I always listen to NPR for unslanted news

At this point in time, no republican is going to act for the good of the country. This is their big chance to pull off atrocities that they've been wanting to carry out for years. Listening to NPR now, and they're saying that Trump may commit impeachable offensives, but the repugs will let it slide because it's more important to them to be the party in power than anything else.

On a brighter note, blue Colorado has one of our senators, Cory Gardener(R) on the run. He has done and said a lot of wildly unpopular things here and refuses to show his face at a town hall because he's a coward, obviously afraid of his constituents. His seat is up for grabs in the 2018 midterms and I think we may have a very good chance of replacing him with a dem candidate. If there are just a few more states with enough angry voters, we may have a chance of taking back the senate. (fingers crossed)

[BlancheSplanchnik]

55. Not just narcissism, but cowardice too.

Who's strong enough, in a high enough position to be a leader, inspire followers and stand against these fucking thugs??

And as for NPR..... someone fucking remind them they consistently spun their reporting on President Obama in hostile tones---questioning his decisions, or just ignoring him while fawning over pukes. Like, for a specific example, Obama v rMoney campaign time sound familiar?

They don't get to sound surprised now. Or they shouldn't, if they practiced integrity.

[Nitram]

57. NPR is one of my two most trusted sources of news, in-depth reporting and analysis by experts in

their fields.

[Kimchijeon]

58. That's what gets me so bogged down

Who will stand up, what can we really do? Realistically speaking, I'm not that sure.