Well, I got into it with a cretin from my alma mater.

[Are_grits_groceries]

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A senior student had written a long and thoughtful essay about Clemson and how it could be improved. Basically it was about considering others more. Obviously this is not an issue confined to Clemson. She made it abundantly clear that there were many things she appreciated about the school.

I was going to respond to some of her comments but the first post I read that was sent to her caught my hair on fire. I went after that toad with both barrels.

Here is the post a middle-aged man wrote in response:
"Get a job sweetheart. Grow out of your millennial feelings into adult realities. Earn a whole lot of money in the adult world, (who doesn't care what Gannett or USA Today cares about), give it to the school, and then you will have a real voice. In the meantime, you will do better screaming your little brains out in front of Harcombe dining hall. I just love snowflakes, even the orange ones."

My answer back to him:
To begin with she's not your sweetheart. Using that term to someone you don't know is disrespectful and shows a complete lack of manners. In addition, she has every right as do others to voice their concerns whether they have a billion dollars or live paycheck to paycheck.

I would venture to say that the vast number of alums do not have the kind of money you allude to. Many give generously to Clemson and 'generously' is a relative term. Their love and concern for Clemson is as vital as it is immeasureable. Do we now line up people based on their monetary worth and listen to them in that order?

I am not naive and I know money talks. However, Clemson should make sure that the money's words don't drown out that of others. As far as calling someone a snowflake, that seems to be the cute term in vogue to label anyone who raises their voice about an issue. You have trivialized an issue that others do consider important.

You would be wise to remmber that snowflakes don't really disappear. They transform into a different force. Your obvious lack of even a basic respect for others is more telling about you than you may realize.

Meh!
BTW calling him out on manners is one of the biggest insults you can level at somebody down here.

[vlyons]

1. I would have told him

that his moral compass is broken, assuming he ever had one. If he values the acquisition of money as a higher value than people, and rates a person's worth by their net worth, he's probably not a happy person. Moreover he probably mingles with people just like him, who like him for his money, but not much else. Great for a Grifters' Convention. If he's a Christian, he needs to stop falling asleep in his pew, when the sermon is about practicing the Golden Rule. If he's an Ayn Rander (likely), I would have told him that practicing the Golden Rule is in everyone's self interest.

I get so tired of these self-serving sociopaths, who have not one shred of morality or compassion.

[Hortensis]

2. Broken moral compass at best. But his hostility suggests

he may feel powerless and frustrated. Doesn't sound like he lives above-it-all at all. A university town must be full of people, but especially younger younger generations, who don't subscribe to his knuckle-dragging.

[Tikki]

3. And where do they learn that behavior!!!

prosperity gospel and the golden rule...how to make these work together again.

Was a time, even here in the US, when giving back meant everything.

Tikki

[calimary]

36. As my late mother-in-law used to say: "they don't suck it out of their thumbs."

They do allow themselves to be brainwashed by the temptation of money. Those "God wants YOU to be RICH!!!!!" snake-oil salesmen. They don't perform their "ministries" from any Bible. Theirs is a Buy-Bull.

And you'll notice that NONE of these crooks, NOT a SINGLE ONE wrapping themselves around the Cross has EVER quoted the story of Jesus and the rich young man (the one who came asking how he could get in on this, who's instructed by Christ to "go and sell all you have and give the money to the poor, and come follow Me." Btw - the story ends with the rich young man going away, sadly).

You'll notice that NONE of these crooks, NOT a SINGLE ONE wrapping themselves around the Cross has EVER quoted the Beatitudes - where you will NOT find "blessed are the rich..." OR "blessed are the war-makers."

You'll notice that NONE of these crooks, NOT a SINGLE ONE wrapping themselves around the Cross has EVER quoted Matthew 25:35-45. That's the one about "the least of these." As in - "whatever you did to the least of these, you did to Me." The list includes "when I was poor...", "when I was naked...", "when I was homeless...", "when I was sick...", "when I was in jail...".

Here's lookin' at YOU, Paul Ryan, you selfish, miserable, conniving, phony-"Catholic" fuck.

[narnian60]

46. Well said.

[FakeNoose]

47. ...

[Scarsdale]

17. Buying

power does not buy CLASS or HAPPINESS.

[paleotn]

29. Precisely....

the orange shit stain is a perfect example.

[ismnotwasm]

4. My new YouTube addiction Is the Southern women's Channel

Partly, because I am interested in women's lives from everywhere, and I adore regional idioms, but I must admit, I've never seen a deadly insult covered in so much sugar in my life. Watching further, the stress on good manners and graciousness is there throughout.

That man sounds not just gauche, and ill-mannered but ignorant as hell. He must have majored in beer chugging.

[Are_grits_groceries]

23. You can be cut into ribbons

before you even realize a knife was out.
I am not kidding about manners. If you did not say 'yes ma'am, no ma'am and other basics', you were in big trouble. The worst thing your parents wanted was for somebody to think you weren't 'raised right.'

Manners can also be used as weapons. In Charleston, if people don't want anything to do with you, they will never be so rude as to tell you to go away. They will become overly formal and respect the hell out of you. You can tell. They 'polite you to death.'

[ismnotwasm]

27. One of my favorite idioms from the channel was

"Act like you got some raisin'"--presumably to a child. The actors expanded the channel to display not only southernisms, but funny discussions about what it meant to be raised in the south. It's funny and charming, it doesn't avoid stereotypes but broadens the outlook.

I'm ashamed to admit I had never heard of Clogging. Now I'm fascinated by the sheer skill of the dance.

[Are_grits_groceries]

34. My suitemates at Clemson could clog.

It's common in the very NW corner of SC. I tried but I could not do it.

[OldHippieChick]

5. Shoulda just called him a

Yankee

[janterry]

6. good for you

I also noted that 'little' brain nonsense. It reminded me of 'don't worry your pretty LITTLE head'.
Sexism - and all kinds of other isms.
Yuck

[gademocrat7]

7. Great response, grits.

[dawg]

8. What you did is important.

These arrogant assholes don't realize how many people actually disagree with them. Because they are so loud, they think they are an overwhelming majority.

They need to be reminded that they are not.

Also, isn't it sad how he seems to think that making money is the only thing that matters in life?

[Laffy Kat]

9. Your reply was right on.

[spanone]

10. K&R... that 'sweetheart' shit really pisses me off.

you did a great job.

[Louis1895]

15. Misogynistic

Sexist.

(Says the 63-year-old father of a 27-year-old daughter)

[smirkymonkey]

11. Good on you!

The arrogant, sexist bastard deserved to be taken down a few pegs and I think you achieved that goal.

[struggle4progress]

12. don't feed trolls

[rwsanders]

13. Clemson keeps calling and asking me for money. Every time they do I tell them that

SC keeps voting for the repugs who don't support higher education. If they'd learn how to vote, they wouldn't have to go begging for money.
At least the last girl listened, she was young and didn't know anything about politics.

[FakeNoose]

48. Great answer! I'll have to remember that one.

We had a governor in PA (Republican Corbett - gone now) who spent not one penny on education on 4 years.

Now we've got Gov. Tom Wolf (Democrat thank God!) who's trying to fix it, but it takes time.
And there are so many things that need fixin'.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

14. "Clemson should make sure that the money's words drown" ? ?

Proofreading issue?

[Are_grits_groceries]

20. Fixed. Thx.

I was busy putting the fire in my hair out,

[anneboleyn]

21. Should have been "do not drown" I believe. As you say that was a proofreading issue but unfortunate

given the importance of the point being made.

[a kennedy]

16. Ya done great grits.......

h

[True Blue American]

44. Bless His Heart

Works too!

[TNNurse]

18. You remained polite and calm.

I would have wanted to say mean ugly things and lose my temper.

You did well.

[Are_grits_groceries]

24. You should see my FB timeline.

It is scorched earth. I gave up trying to reason with or even talk to relatives and friends who are Trumpkins. I let them have it. I use every name in the book and some I make up.

[TNLib]

19. Great reply

I usually get angry and stew. I thinks it's important to stand up for others and articulate our views.

[lpbk2713]

22. Internet anonymity has spawned millions of cowards.

They wouldn't dare say some of the shit they do if they were standing
face to face with someone they didn't share the same point of view with.

[True Blue American]

45. But,oh how brave

They are behind the key board.

[Nitram]

25. Perfect response: polite, factual and compassionate.

[caroldansen]

26. Good job. He was shocked and amazed you had the guts to tell him off.

[cwydro]

28. K and r.

Great response!

[Mariana]

30. Good for you calling him out on manners.

I've been doing that as well. These jackasses listen to RW radio hours a day for years, they hear how utterly nasty the hosts are toward anyone with whom they disagree, and they come to think it's socially acceptable to talk to people that way in real life. Well, it isn't.

[paleotn]

31. wonderful response.

The toad is a symptom of the very sick society where money has become a proxy for wisdom.

[Warpy]

32. Oh, well done! About the only thing you didn't do was

hit him with a deadly "bless your heart." I admire your restraint and don't think I could have done it.

[Are_grits_groceries]

35. I got a stupid and nasty response

to my post. It made no sense.
I did bless his heart.
I considered it for the original jackass but I wanted to stay away from any hint of mud. Makes a better contrast.

[spike jones]

40. G. R. I. T. S.

GRITS: Georgia Rural Institute of Technology and Science.

My other comment was too much off topic, so I edit.

[Are_grits_groceries]

42. Lol! Good one! nt

[Mars and Minerva]

33. I admire your defense of a young spirit!

You were rational, forceful and respectful.

My Alma Mater is in New Jersey...here you would have to look them up in the Alumni Yearly, knock on their front door and punch them in the nose. Then utter the profanity of your choice. Seriously.

[radicalliberal]

37. THANK YOU!

Excellent reply!

[Stinky The Clown]

38. Go Grits!

Great response

[czarjak]

39. Line people up and listen to them based on monetary worth?

How do you think universities operate?

[Puzzler]

41. "Many snowflakes cause avalanche" (n/t)

-P

[littlemissmartypants]

43. ♡

Thank you for the post. You're remarkable. ♡