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Thu Mar 16, 2017, 05:00 AM

Betcha Congress now knows that the FBI has audio of Trump collusion with Russia

Therefore Feinstein's and Grassley's ashen faces and zombified expressions yesterday. The media and the Congress will now investigate further and dot the I's and cross T's as the tracks are torn out from under the Trump Train.

What we're staring at is a Constitutional crisis. The Founding Fathers anticipated a lot, but a two-party system that, worst case scenario, would circumvent checks and balances and allow a President with less than a majority to rule as a dictator was not one of them, particularly when that candidate commiserated with a hostile foreign nation to ascend to the presidency.

Treason is narrowly defined and impeachment is dicey when the head of the Senate and possibly handfuls of Republicans are potentially implicated in the scandal as well.

We simply do not have a legal process in place to address this incursion on American government and politics. Who creates the rules that will need to be promulgated to adequately investigate and punish the wrong-doers?

That's the worry that I see in the Senators' faces: they know what happened, they know their duty is to prosecute, but there isn't an existing institution within which this may be adjudicated.

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Reply Betcha Congress now knows that the FBI has audio of Trump collusion with Russia (Original post)
Mr. Ected Mar 2017 OP
lindysalsagal Mar 2017 #1
caroldansen Mar 2017 #2
longship Mar 2017 #3
C_U_L8R Mar 2017 #4
roamer65 Mar 2017 #5
mopinko Mar 2017 #6
HAB911 Mar 2017 #8
Lee-Lee Mar 2017 #9
MineralMan Mar 2017 #7
Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #10
JudyM Mar 2017 #11
wiggs Mar 2017 #12

Response to Mr. Ected (Original post)

Thu Mar 16, 2017, 06:19 AM

1. Wouldn't surprise me. This will take time for the senate to digest and accept.

They're elected officials, but we often forget they're just people, and people resist drastic change, no matter what it is.

This will take some time but Schumer and Pelosi are on it and will blow the whistle eventually.

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Response to Mr. Ected (Original post)

Thu Mar 16, 2017, 06:28 AM

2. If that's the case then they would have to impeach him because that punishment IS in place.

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Response to caroldansen (Reply #2)

Thu Mar 16, 2017, 06:36 AM

3. Unfortunately, impeachment is only the first step.

One still has to convict in the senate.

Normally that is a good thing (Bill Clinton), but in this case it makes the bar too high in a situation where ideologues and madmen have taken over.

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Response to Mr. Ected (Original post)

Thu Mar 16, 2017, 08:31 AM

4. Was that a look of 'what do we do now?'

Assuming that they were told something with substance,
I'm sure both Feinstein and Grassley are thinking...
Okay, now what? What do we do with this intel and
how do we proceed towards an orderly resolution...
including impeachment. Neither one wants blowback
or chaos. Curious what's next.

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Response to Mr. Ected (Original post)

Thu Mar 16, 2017, 08:32 AM

5. John Schindler mentioned something happening by COB on March 20.

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Response to roamer65 (Reply #5)

Thu Mar 16, 2017, 09:28 AM

6. public hearing on hack?

but what is cob?

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Response to mopinko (Reply #6)

Thu Mar 16, 2017, 09:31 AM

8. Close of business

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Response to mopinko (Reply #6)

Thu Mar 16, 2017, 09:33 AM

9. Close Of Business

 

AKA end of the work day.

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Response to Mr. Ected (Original post)

Thu Mar 16, 2017, 09:30 AM

7. It's sure looking that way.

I wish it would just all get revealed in public so people would be clear on what happened.

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Response to Mr. Ected (Original post)

Thu Mar 16, 2017, 10:14 AM

10. I think they may very well impeach him or force him to resign.

He is not popular, and if it becomes knows that he colluded with a foreign power to steal the election or hack the Democrats...it is high tech Watergage and the GOP will act...if they don't the Dems will act when they regain power in 18...I do not think Trump will last

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Response to Mr. Ected (Original post)

Thu Mar 16, 2017, 11:01 AM

11. Fingers and toes crossed that this takes down McConnell.

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Response to Mr. Ected (Original post)

Thu Mar 16, 2017, 11:19 AM

12. The public has to demand a do-over. IF...IF the public ever gets to know the full

extent of a compromised WH, NY office of FBI, Attorney General, Commerce Sec, Sec of State, and fraudulent election then millions have to hit the streets to demand action and justice.

Not a million in DC. Millions. Everywhere.

By their vey nature, elected officials will pursue scripted remedies...but when remedy calls for an unprecedented, unanticipated, unimaginable pathway toward resolution, only clear demand by 10s of millions will help them find it.

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