President Obama's Gallup approval rating amongst liberal Democrats for December 5th-11th is 84%.

[LoZoccolo]

[gratuitous]

1. Whatever that means

But nobody seems to know; it's a very comforting little factoid. Glad to see it found it's way to the new site, even if it still doesn't mean anything.

[phleshdef]

2. It does mean something.

It means that out of a certain number of people polled, a certain number of them identify as liberals and 84% of those that identify as such approve of President Obama.

[Scuba]

3. It means liberal Democrats have seen the Republican field. n/t

[LoZoccolo]

6. At what date in the past had they not yet seen the Republican field?

[Scuba]

7. They've seen them all along, ergo the continuing support for the President. n/t

[Romulox]

4. OK. But if the "centrists" are to be believed, "liberal Democrats" represent a small fringe element

of the Party--certainly nothing like a majority.

So why the mania for polling this particular segment, I wonder?

[Rex]

5. The thread starter has a specific reason for doing this.

I don't know what it is, just that he has a reason for doing so. Perhaps he will elaborate downthread.

[LoZoccolo]

10. These posts are meant to refute claims that Obama's liberal supporters are leaving him.

[Romulox]

12. What percentage of his supporters would you describe as "liberal Democrats", though? >1%? >5%? nt

[LoZoccolo]

13. His overall Democratic approval rating is 77%, so I would imagine it's a sizable number.

[Romulox]

16. That doesn't even attempt to answer the question. nt

[LoZoccolo]

25. His conservative and moderate Democratic approval ratings are less than 77%.

[Rex]

26. Thanks.

That should clear up any misconceptions imo.

[rhett o rick]

37. Over and over and over and over. Where have I seen this technique

before?

[Scuba]

9. They told me I'm the only one left. n/t

[russspeakeasy]

15. I doubt you are the only one, but you're probably not crowded.

[Scuba]

20. Actually, there's millions of us out here, but the right wants to pretend we don't exist. n/t

[Dawgs]

23. No. A certain number identify as liberal DEMOCRATS.

Many of us are liberal, but no longer Democrats.

[TBF]

8. Good because without even considering politics whenever I look at Newt Gingrich I want to throw up.

The longer those repub debates last the higher that number's gonna go no matter who is answering the question.

[pintobean]

11. Again, without a link.

I miss unrec.

[CakeGrrl]

18. It's Gallup per the OP.

You can look at the crosstabs for any given week and the results are pretty consistent.

[pintobean]

22. I know that

Posting a link is a common courtesy that the OP refuses to do. That would require an OP going beyond the subject line.

[RobinA]

14. Well, This Liberal Dem

has pretty much decided not to vote for him. This past week the Phila. Inquirer had an editorial by a member of the Obama team predicting in a positive way that by the year 2020 most of us will have defined contribution medical insurance (as opposed to the defined benefit we have now if we're lucky) and that this would be hastened by health care reform. He likened this to the way defined benefit pension plans have turned into defined contribution 401ks. (A huge ticking neutron bomb that will start going off in about a half a generation, in my opinion.) And this guy was making this out to be a good idea, just like 401ks. It was frightening. With people like this on our side, who needs enemies?

[zipplewrath]

24. I'm voting for him

But you're absolutely right about the ticking time bomb. I've still got a defined benefit plan. I feel sorry for folks who think they can "save" their way into something similar. HCR will be seen in the same light as DADT in about 10 years. A really bad piece of legislation passed and signed by democrats.

[AnotherMcIntosh]

44. Then you better vote twice. Or three times.

[Sheepshank]

17. Boy, does this kind of news piss off a lot of people or what? n/t

[CakeGrrl]

19. It does if one is convinced that he's

weak / a corporatist capitulator / a general disaster for the country, I suppose.

I'm not among that number.

[ClassWarrior]

21. No, you're just regurgitating those memes because you...

Come to think of it, why are you regurgitating those memes?

NGU.

[CakeGrrl]

30. What has you more concerned,

Seeing them repeated or seeing them said in earnest?

[ClassWarrior]

40. Both are just as damaging to the President.

NGU.

[great white snark]

27. It certainly does.

In the past it's even made people invoke the liberal purity tests.

Sad that.

[gratuitous]

29. As one of those "lot of people"

I just say, first, that it's not clear from the poll how "liberal Democrats" are selected. Like, would Rahm Emanuel qualify as a "liberal Democrat" in this poll, and would you consider Rahm Emanuel to be a "liberal Democrat"? Second, what does "approve" mean? Is it in relation to a hypothetical Republican president? Or does it mean that the person has, in general, more positive feelings about President Obama than negative ones, and therefore "approves" of the job he's doing? Are there specific programs, policies or palaver that are polled, or is it just a general statement unrelated to particulars?

The "news" doesn't piss me off as much as the root meaningless of this bit of information, stuffed with whatever meaning some people choose to put in there. My strong suspicion is that it is used as a cudgel to marginalize legitimate concerns or to squelch discussion of issues important to all citizens: "Well, President Obama has an 84% approval rating among liberal Democrats, so your carping on Issue X is just proof of how out of touch you are, you dirty fucking hippie."

[emulatorloo]

42. It is super simply: They self-identify as liberal Democrats to the pollster

[Art_from_Ark]

43. I think you have touched upon the crux of the matter

[Number23]

35. Yep. And it's absolutely delicious

[ThomWV]

28. Yep, another week and another report of that same 80+ percent. Is this posted automatically?

I mean is this post like a robo-call that just gets spit out there once a week no matter what?

[slay]

33. Yeah it's not a discussion - just a report of a poll

smells more like propaganda to me.

[rhett o rick]

38. Bingo. nm

[Bucky]

31. He will be overwhelming elected president of the Liberal Democratic United States of America

I would like to move this country, the LDUSA. Perhaps I will reside on the island of Orlando or somewhere along the Texas Archepelago.

[slay]

32. I'm surprised that large a percentage of Dems don't understand the meaning of the word liberal

either that or they haven't been paying attention because Obama has been anything but liberal.

[Number23]

34. I don't think it has EVER gone below 80% which is freaking phenomenal

His approval amongst blacks has never gone below 85%. Strong support also from college-educated, women and Hispanics. The man is obviously doing what he needs to do to keep his base happy.

[Sheepshank]

36. Just as they were getting over the poll in the OP.....you go and rub it in.

I love the purposeful reminders that there are consistently plenty of voters that consider themselves liberal, black, etc and also in Obama's camp.

[AnotherMcIntosh]

39. Diebold

[unkachuck]

41. "...rating amongst liberal Democrats for December 5th-11th is 84%."

....are you saying you don't need me on election day?

....Obama quoted Biden on 60 Minutes yesterday saying, "Don't compare me to the Almighty, compare me to the alternative."

....there's a lot of truth in that statement, why do I still feel unhappy?