"Watergate is no longer the standard by which we measure political corruption."

[dixiegrrrrl]

Wow.....
How does that feel to hear????

As someone who was a young adult during Watergate, that is a powerful statement.....
until now, it was hard to imagine anything worse

and Nixon was not even as close to the Plumber crew as Trump is to his gang.

[Alice11111]

1. Getting caught is the standard.

Like DT said, if I dont pay taxes, that makes me smart.
I want war heros who don't get caught, like maybe ones who turn and avoid the battle completely, like him.

[Hekate]

2. It's awful. I also was a young adult during Watergate.

In the end, I agreed with Barbara Jordan that the Constitution had worked; "The Constitution is whole."

But we had a Committee that was truly bipartisan, composed of honorable men and women who were patriots first.

Today, it is really going to be touch-and-go.

Btw, who said that? Your subject line, I mean. It is so true.

[dixiegrrrrl]

8. Somebody on Twitter

I read it and moved on to other tweets early this pm, but it stuck iwth me so much I decided to share it.
Sorry I can't source it.

Still...is so true.
Rather remarkable to be living thru something like this twice.

[fun n serious]

3. Trumpgate.

[oasis]

6. +1

[Volaris]

11. The Red October Scandal

[Jonny Appleseed]

4. That Louis CK standup bit about Nixon and how politics nowadays are so namby pamby

No longer works

[Panich52]

5. In school, it was learning about Teapot Dome...

In my 20s, it was Watergate.

Russiagate is worse than both put together

[KittyWampus]

7. Also, Tammany Hall

[Panich52]

17. Except Tammany was more State/City

[democrank]

9. Trumpgate makes Watergate look like Sunday School.

A couple things come to mind....

During Watergate, generally speaking, Democrats and Republicans worked together, putting country before party. The hearings were taken seriously, truth was the goal.

Trump had a reckless disregard for truth and honesty from the beginning. He ignored laws, openly broke them, even asked others to do the same. He encouraged Putin to hack Clinton's account, told rally goers to attack protesters, openly promoted his own business ventures.

The party he represents goes along with most everything he does, truth and country be damned.

[annabanana]

12. We also had a less corporate News media.

Less compromised, and more trusted. It was vital in the Watergate takedown. Not sure if it's still up to the task.

[dixiegrrrrl]

13. Couple of things about that, anna...

We now have so much access to non-corporate media, thanks to the web.
daily Kos, TPM, Daily Beast, Slate, Etc and of course Twitter, where there are dozens of people finding the news way ahead of MSM.
Which is one of the reasons this is such a fast moving story.

also...MSM is now turning on Trump.
Wall Street Journal has recently provided scathing editorials, WaPo is all over the story and Time just provided an interview of Trump from yesterday, after Nuns spoke, that shows what an ignorant ass he is.

Link here, btw:
http://time.com/4710456/donald-trump-time-interview-truth-falsehood/?xid=homepage

[annabanana]

16. This is true

(and what is partially responsible for my not curling up in a helpless defeated ball and wailing...)

[PoliticAverse]

10. Until there's a criminal conviction Watergate is still the standard. n/t

[Tommy_Carcetti]

14. One thing's for certain.

This was no third rate burglary.

[Skidmore]

15. ....

[dixiegrrrrl]

19. I was glued to the tv during that hearing.

Just a tidbit....Ms. Jordon was almost 60 when she died
and left behind a a woman she had been with for more than 20 years. A few years too early to be out and proud, it seems.
I wish Clinton HAD appointed her to SCOTUS, as he wanted to, but she was in ill with leukemia at the time.

Watching the hearings of that time, one is struck by ow proper and respectful and serious the members were. None of the grandstanding and stupid talk that we hear today.

[Skidmore]

20. I adored Ms. Jordan.

Still do. I always wanted to vote for her for president. Her intellect was unmatched as was her integrity and sense of honor.

[a kennedy]

18. AND REALLY IS THIS THE NEW REALITY IN POLITICS???

everyday it's something else..... ????