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eniwetok

(1,629 posts)
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 06:01 PM Mar 2017

Why Do Dems TOLERATE Antidemocratic, Reformproof Government?

One might think if there's a party that would stand up for true democratic principles... it would be the Democrats. Yet while there is evidence of numerous efforts to abolish that antidemocratic abomination called the EC... THE ENTIRE SYSTEM is riddled with antidemocratic elements from the Senate where Dems now represent 33 million more Americans than do the GOP... to the amendment process which is so bizzare states with 4% of the US population can block any amendment... yet states with as little as 40% can ratify any amendment.

Making things worst is that the system clearly has a GOP bias... and signature Democratic programs may be weakened or abolished by Senators and a President who represent a MINORITY of the People.

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Why Do Dems TOLERATE Antidemocratic, Reformproof Government? (Original Post) eniwetok Mar 2017 OP
America is too big Jonny Appleseed Mar 2017 #1
that would not solve the problem if.... eniwetok Mar 2017 #2
It comes as NO surprise that even "progressive" Dems are AWOL on democracy! eniwetok Mar 2017 #3
 

Jonny Appleseed

(960 posts)
1. America is too big
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 06:14 PM
Mar 2017

There should be 2 countries formed from East and West coasts and the heartland would be the 3rd world shithole that we're all worried about immigration from.

eniwetok

(1,629 posts)
2. that would not solve the problem if....
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 06:19 PM
Mar 2017

If those new sub-nations still used state suffrage then those living in the biggest of the states would be disenfranchised as now the people in CA are most disenfranchised by the current system. Ya, we're brought up to believe it all evens out because the House represents populations... but a person can only vote for ONE representative... not one's state's delegation. So anyone living in CA and moves to WY suddenly gets a 3.5x bigger presidential vote and 70x bigger vote for the Senate.

eniwetok

(1,629 posts)
3. It comes as NO surprise that even "progressive" Dems are AWOL on democracy!
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 10:50 PM
Mar 2017

Which is why this thread is being ignored.

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