If the Intel Community has all this evidence of "High Crimes...

[dchill]

And Misdemeanors" or Treason or whatever, why don't they just tell somebody?

Clearly Nunes is off the reservation and trying to screw up his own committee, which is no small thing.

Clearly there's actionable evidence on Manafort and Sessions. What gives?

Clearly, we have a president who is doing appointments and legislation that should be delayed.

[Ilsa]

1. I don't understand why they are waiting unless

It is for the last bit of devastating evidence. Maybe they are collecting stuff right now, on Tillerson in Moscow, or something.

[dchill]

3. Tillerson has a 17-year history of being...

a medal winning friend of Russia. There's got to be a lot there, already.

[Blue_Adept]

2. Because you make sure you case is solid and can be fully prosecuted

You don't go half-assed. You cross every damn T and dot ever I.

[elleng]

5. YES, Blue_Adept.

[dchill]

8. Unfortunately, by the time punctuation is perfect...

the country may be irrevocably lost. And I'm a real stickler for punctuation!

[elleng]

4. Unlike political types,

the 'intel community' includes serious and professional people who understand the need for thoroughness and secrecy. They don't go around 'disclosing' anything and everything, fortunately, and imo it is they and the military pros who will save us all.

[Atman]

6. They want to lift the Russian sanctions first

And get the pipeline going again. They don't really give a shit about Obamacare, because it doesn't make them any money, but they have to have the big-ticket items pass before they start locking each other up.

[0rganism]

7. by way of answer, "we don't know now and we won't know for a while"

the IC is run by professionals who have their own aptitudes, careers and political interests to consider along with their service oaths. how they carry out their duties is far outside my areas of expertise, but i would hazard a guess that whatever disclosures they might be inclined to make now are made far more difficult by the power play we experienced back in November. legit or not, their organizations are now headed by Trumpists and that is going to affect how this plays out. bigly.

[NCTraveler]

9. When you are dealing with powerful people an attempted cover-up is likely.

Finish the whole investigation. Then move.

I'm sure it is also very messy as many of the players have good reason to be talking to Russians for many different reasons.

[dchill]

10. I certainly want EVERYONE involved to be...

rounded up and prosecuted. But they could start with the already committed crimes.

[NCTraveler]

11. If there are crimes, they are all already committed.

If there are crimes, it is also necessary to take the appropriate steps to connect the dots.

[dchill]

12. Meanwhile, the country is under siege...

from the idiocrats.

[NCTraveler]

13. And will continue to be.

If the outcome is impeachment or arrests it isn't going to be much more pretty. Neither will generate some great and quick change outside of unrest in all quarters.