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Reply Joy Reid: Excerpts from Steele memo... (Original post)
iluvtennis Mar 2017 OP
pnwmom Mar 2017 #1
JenniferJuniper Mar 2017 #3
George II Mar 2017 #15
JenniferJuniper Mar 2017 #17
WinkyDink Mar 2017 #22
BumRushDaShow Mar 2017 #2
lastlib Mar 2017 #18
BumRushDaShow Mar 2017 #25
Chiyo-chichi Mar 2017 #33
BumRushDaShow Mar 2017 #34
Chiyo-chichi Mar 2017 #35
scheming daemons Mar 2017 #4
iluvtennis Mar 2017 #6
GliderGuider Mar 2017 #9
cilla4progress Mar 2017 #10
Ligyron Mar 2017 #13
thesquanderer Mar 2017 #19
Vinnie From Indy Mar 2017 #27
NewRedDawn Mar 2017 #29
Cracklin Charlie Mar 2017 #5
wishstar Mar 2017 #7
Generic Brad Mar 2017 #8
DangerousRhythm Mar 2017 #11
flamingdem Mar 2017 #20
uponit7771 Mar 2017 #31
LanternWaste Mar 2017 #38
paleotn Mar 2017 #14
L. Coyote Mar 2017 #12
bucolic_frolic Mar 2017 #16
uponit7771 Mar 2017 #32
sarcasmo Mar 2017 #21
iluvtennis Mar 2017 #23
H2O Man Mar 2017 #24
gademocrat7 Mar 2017 #26
SharonClark Mar 2017 #28
Gothmog Mar 2017 #30
librechik Mar 2017 #36
NewRedDawn Mar 2017 #37

Response to iluvtennis (Original post)

Sun Mar 26, 2017, 06:22 PM

1. So much of Steele's dossier has been confirmed by now. Everything except the part

no DUer cares about, because we already know how gross he is.

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #1)

Sun Mar 26, 2017, 06:35 PM

3. The gross part is quite potential relevant...

blackmail

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Response to JenniferJuniper (Reply #3)

Sun Mar 26, 2017, 08:38 PM

15. Yes, the threat of blackmail is huge. You may be too young (that's a compliment!!!)...

....but google "Christine Keeler". In 1963 she had an affair with a British MP who eventually resigned and the affair discredited the Harold McMillan government, rendering it virtually ineffective.

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Response to George II (Reply #15)

Sun Mar 26, 2017, 08:46 PM

17. I am too young to remember Christine but

I'm a Phil Ochs fan!

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #1)

Sun Mar 26, 2017, 10:40 PM

22. Oh, I care! Because the Righteous Right needs it rubbed in their faces, you should pardon the

 

expression.

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Response to iluvtennis (Original post)

Sun Mar 26, 2017, 06:23 PM

2. K&R

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #2)

Sun Mar 26, 2017, 09:30 PM

18. Remember the effort by dRumpf's team at the repug convention....

...to quash the platform plank standing up for Ukraine against Russia?? It was the only plank they cared about, and they were adamant that it had to be kept out! That fits right in with the claim by the Steele memo that Drumpf was co-operating with Russia to sabotage the Clinton campaign.

Seals the deal for me, and I know there's more! This basturd's gotta go down! . .

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Response to lastlib (Reply #18)

Mon Mar 27, 2017, 07:22 AM

25. I finally found another instance of this attempt to quash (from the RNC convention)

https://www.c-span.org/video/?412506-101/republican-national-committee-platform-hearings-part-2&start=538#

Unidentified Speaker >> PAGE ONE LINE 32-35.

Unidentified Speaker >> THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. MY AMENDMENT WOULD STRIKE OUT THE LANGUAGE TO THE EVENT -- THE REASON FOR STRIKING OUT THIS LANGUAGE IS RONALD REAGAN DID A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF WORK TO TRY TO KEEP US OUT OF A HOT WAR WITH RUSSIA. WE SHOULD KEEP IN MIND RUSSIA IS A NUCLEAR SUPERPOWER AND WHAT WE ARE SPILLING OUT HERE, SANCTIONS AND ARMING THEIR ENEMIES, THOSE ARE ACTS OF WAR. AND UNLESS WE ARE PREPARED TO GO TO WAR WITH A NUCLEAR SUPERPOWER, I THINK WE NEED TO BE A LOT MORE CAUTIOUS ABOUT DECLARING OUR INTENTION TO DO OF WAR AGAINST THEM. SO I THINK THIS STATEMENT IS OVERLY AGGRESSIVE AND I DO NOT THINK IT IS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF OUR NATION TO BE DECLARING THIS, IN SO I RECOMMEND WE STRIKE THIS LANGUAGE FROM THE PLATFORM.

Unidentified Speaker >> THE AMENDMENT CALLS FOR STRIKING LINES 32-35. CHAIRMAN OF THE COMMITTEE?

Unidentified Speaker >> WE DEBATED THIS FULLY YESTERDAY DURING THE MEETING AND IT WAS DEFEATED AND I WOULD ASK THAT WE DEFEATED AGAIN TODAY. AND YOU. ASK DELEGATE FROM NEW YORK.

Unidentified Speaker >> CYCLE IN QUESTION. QUESTION HAS BEEN CALLED. I WANT TO VOTE IMMEDIATELY. THE MOTION IS UP FOR DEBATE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION FROM THE DELEGATE...


The CSPAN-recorded proceedings mentioned above from the day before, were corrupted (although still available but without a transcript), but I was able to find the above 2nd attempt to change that amendment... The link goes right to the portion where the above takes place.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #25)

Mon Mar 27, 2017, 10:09 AM

33. I watched that part of the video. I was interested in a number of things.

Mainly... who did they get to introduce this change?

The "unidentified speaker" above is Maine State Senator Eric Brakey. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Brakey
Why him??
He just did this of his own volition? I seriously doubt it.

And this was the second attempt? And the proposal to strike it was soundly defeated here.

It took three (or more?) attempts to soften the language on Russia in the platform?

Is there no video or transcript of them actually approving the amended language?

Who introduced the language that passed?

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Response to Chiyo-chichi (Reply #33)

Mon Mar 27, 2017, 10:19 AM

34. Yeah I have been trying to scan through the videos

and haven't had time to get through it all yet to find the final votes. I think much of the earlier stuff was done in the video where the sound was completely mistracked from the video portion (and thus there is no transcript of the proceedings). It's also possible that the final votes were not recorded by CSPAN but am not sure yet..

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #34)

Mon Mar 27, 2017, 10:33 AM

35. I commend you for trying to research this.

It really hasn't been reported on thoroughly.

I had no idea the change took multiple attempts. It was clearly defeated in the video you link to above.

And given how this administration operates, I think it is important to know which RNC delegates worked with them to get the language softened. And how did they convince all those "nay" voters to change?

Incidentally, in the relevant section of the video, no names are given by the chair, whereas he does give names when they are on other issues. He simply refers to "the delegate from Maine." I'm not suggesting that this was a conspiracy. Probably just a coincidence that the only name I was interested in wasn't given. I could see that the delegate's first name was "Eric" from his nametag. Had to look up a list of Maine delegates and look up multiple Maine delegates named Eric to ID him. Brakey was Maine's state director for Ron Paul in 2012 and led a walkout of some Maine delegates at the 2012 RNC. I gather that he also considers himself an actor. He danced in a Speedo in a commercial for coconut water.

I'd be interested in knowing if you discover more.

This deserves its own thread.

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Response to iluvtennis (Original post)

Sun Mar 26, 2017, 06:43 PM

4. Source E is clearly Boris Epshteyn

 

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Response to scheming daemons (Reply #4)

Sun Mar 26, 2017, 06:55 PM

6. Good hypothesis.

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Response to scheming daemons (Reply #4)

Sun Mar 26, 2017, 07:17 PM

9. That makes the most sense to me too. nt

 

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Response to scheming daemons (Reply #4)

Sun Mar 26, 2017, 07:54 PM

10. Yes,

My thoughts.

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Response to scheming daemons (Reply #4)

Sun Mar 26, 2017, 08:06 PM

13. yep, "ethnic Russian"

after all - how many of those were on Dump's team anyway?

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Response to scheming daemons (Reply #4)

Sun Mar 26, 2017, 09:47 PM

19. Not Erovinkin? (n/t)

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Response to thesquanderer (Reply #19)

Mon Mar 27, 2017, 08:35 AM

27. It was most likely Erovinkin

Epshtyn makes no sense. He was a player in the treason.

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Response to scheming daemons (Reply #4)

Mon Mar 27, 2017, 09:31 AM

29. Bingo!

 

Give this man/lady a Ci-gar.

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Response to iluvtennis (Original post)

Sun Mar 26, 2017, 06:44 PM

5. So...Putin using Trump as a Russian spy?

This should be really bad news.

Will it be?

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Response to iluvtennis (Original post)

Sun Mar 26, 2017, 06:56 PM

7. I am curious about who were "agents/facilitators within Democratic Party structure"????

I haven't seen any discussion or speculation about this part of the dossier

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Response to wishstar (Reply #7)

Sun Mar 26, 2017, 07:06 PM

8. If you think about it, it's pretty obvious

But since it is forbidden here to speak ill of fellow Democrats I'm not throwing any names out there.

Just think long and hard about what happened at the DNC during the primary season and what your suspected individuals have been up to publicly since then. They have been very transparent - like the rest of the agents in this operation.

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Response to Generic Brad (Reply #8)

Sun Mar 26, 2017, 08:00 PM

11. I have ideas, but not sure if I'm correct.

IF this part is true (and I don't see why not, with all other parts considered), we'd better know who these people are for our own sakes!

It seems logical enough that there might be one or two, unfortunately.

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Response to Generic Brad (Reply #8)

Sun Mar 26, 2017, 10:32 PM

20. hint?

I don't think it's that obvious..

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Response to Generic Brad (Reply #8)

Mon Mar 27, 2017, 09:42 AM

31. I have an idea and they have shown all of their tax returns either

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Response to Generic Brad (Reply #8)

Mon Mar 27, 2017, 11:19 AM

38. What specifically makes it "pretty obvious?"

 

What specifically makes it "pretty obvious?"

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Response to wishstar (Reply #7)

Sun Mar 26, 2017, 08:17 PM

14. That is a very good question.

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Response to iluvtennis (Original post)

Sun Mar 26, 2017, 08:04 PM

12. Was the $50 million profit paid to trump for a property to fund his campaign?

Just a down payment

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Response to iluvtennis (Original post)

Sun Mar 26, 2017, 08:40 PM

16. It makes sense

I sometimes post on online discussion/message boards, and over the summer
there were just too many instances of attempts to distort facts and pump
certain positions for Trump from posters who were clearly challenged when
using the English language

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Reply #16)

Mon Mar 27, 2017, 09:43 AM

32. Yes, those were the obvious ones the waving hand was the second obvious

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Response to iluvtennis (Original post)

Sun Mar 26, 2017, 10:33 PM

21. Steele is legit, no reason any longer to doubt the pee tapes.

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Response to sarcasmo (Reply #21)

Sun Mar 26, 2017, 11:06 PM

23. Agree...Been legit forever nt

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Response to iluvtennis (Original post)

Sun Mar 26, 2017, 11:08 PM

24. Recommended.

Thank you.

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Response to iluvtennis (Original post)

Mon Mar 27, 2017, 07:44 AM

26. K&R!

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Response to iluvtennis (Original post)

Mon Mar 27, 2017, 09:25 AM

28. Michael Steele has this information? Ohhhh, you mean Christopher Steele

Complete names are important, folks!

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Response to iluvtennis (Original post)

Mon Mar 27, 2017, 09:37 AM

30. WOW

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Response to iluvtennis (Original post)

Mon Mar 27, 2017, 10:42 AM

36. "Firstly there were agents within the Democratic Party structure itself..."

find these and purge them, please

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Response to iluvtennis (Original post)

Mon Mar 27, 2017, 11:07 AM

37. Yes indeed.

 

But the Greenie Weenie Jillie Stein is also part of it too from the left.

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