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ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 12:24 AM Mar 2017

Yea or Nay: Filibuster the Debt Ceiling?

I've seen a lot of posts about doing so recently, so I thought I'd ask.

FWIW I say "Nay". This is just the type of crap the GOP (read Rand Paul) has been doing throughout the Obama administration. It seems like something we don't want hanging around our necks.

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Yea or Nay: Filibuster the Debt Ceiling? (Original Post) ProudLib72 Mar 2017 OP
If it's a clean bill, then let it pass. briv1016 Mar 2017 #1
I agree with you underthematrix Mar 2017 #2
Well it has to include "infrastructure" aka The Wall. ProudLib72 Mar 2017 #3
No it doesn't. truebluegreen Mar 2017 #4
True ProudLib72 Mar 2017 #8
Make them pass it. They have the majority. GumboYaYa Mar 2017 #5
I.e., let the Hastert Rule apply. BumRushDaShow Mar 2017 #6
It depends on what's in it. If they jam in a defund Planned Parenthood provision, filibuster. Vinca Mar 2017 #7
Senators are leaving the freedom caucus. ProudLib72 Mar 2017 #9
I say yes...Karma is a bitch. Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #10
Dont hurt people by stopping Social Security checks. NewRedDawn Mar 2017 #11
That's what I was thinking ProudLib72 Mar 2017 #14
It is now their responsibility...time for them to put up or shut...up Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #15
I'd be surprised if it even gets put up for a vote... Volaris Mar 2017 #12
NAY. CLean bill passes. titaniumsalute Mar 2017 #13
Don't revenue bills have to originate in the House? gratuitous Mar 2017 #16
Clean bill? If so it should pass. Agschmid Mar 2017 #17

briv1016

(1,570 posts)
1. If it's a clean bill, then let it pass.
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 12:27 AM
Mar 2017

If it includes an ACA repeal, tax cuts, funding for the wall etc...

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
3. Well it has to include "infrastructure" aka The Wall.
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 12:33 AM
Mar 2017

But I still say let them hang themselves with it.

GumboYaYa

(5,942 posts)
5. Make them pass it. They have the majority.
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 07:35 AM
Mar 2017

Don't filibuster, but make the Repubs get a majority or else get something for it if we have to save their ass...demand Merrick Garland be confirmed in exchange for our votes.

Vinca

(50,267 posts)
7. It depends on what's in it. If they jam in a defund Planned Parenthood provision, filibuster.
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 07:39 AM
Mar 2017

If it's just the normal debt ceiling bill, vote for it. It's more likely the "Freedom" caucus will shut down the government so hang a shutdown around the necks of the GOP.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
9. Senators are leaving the freedom caucus.
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 02:05 PM
Mar 2017

I guess they want to be free?

But, yes, it would be better to hang the govt shutdown around their necks than ours. If they can't get things accomplished being in the majority, they look super weak.

Demsrule86

(68,553 posts)
10. I say yes...Karma is a bitch.
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 02:12 PM
Mar 2017

We need to obstruct and demand something for raising it...after all they don't need our votes they have sizeable majorities...let them screw themselves.

 

NewRedDawn

(790 posts)
11. Dont hurt people by stopping Social Security checks.
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 02:52 PM
Mar 2017

That would be terrible PR not to mention hurt a lot of needy people.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
14. That's what I was thinking
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 03:23 PM
Mar 2017

If they want to be mean and hurtful, fine. We shouldn't follow their example.

Volaris

(10,270 posts)
12. I'd be surprised if it even gets put up for a vote...
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 03:12 PM
Mar 2017

Given the fit they all pitched about it when Obama was Pres...

OH WAIT NEVERMIND. It will pass without so much as a whisper of protest now, WONT IT????

titaniumsalute

(4,742 posts)
13. NAY. CLean bill passes.
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 03:14 PM
Mar 2017

If they want to add pork and weird shit let THEM shut down the Government. That will look great. They own the Executive, House, and Senate and shut down their own gov. That would be delicious.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
16. Don't revenue bills have to originate in the House?
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 03:38 PM
Mar 2017

And, if that's the case, filibustering a debt ceiling bill in the Senate won't be an issue. Just sit back and taunt the Freedom Caucus folks about increasing the national debt and the deficit, and don't let them see your mischievous smile.

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