OK, here's airline "non-rev" pax rules:

[trof]

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I'm a pilot. I flew for TWA for 30+ years.
Rules have surely changed some since then, but here's what we had in the 60s, 70, 80s.

Male pax wore coats and ties to ride in 1st class.
In coach a sport coat and no tie was acceptable.
Female wore dresses or skirts and blouses/sweaters (or skirt suits).

You have to understand that this was back in the day when
1. EVERYONE 'dressed up' to ride in an airplane. It was a major event.
2. EVERYONE 'dressed up' to go out at night. To dinner, a movie, a PTA meeting, whatever.
3. I wore a THREE PIECE SUIT to attend a college football game with a date.
In Alabama.

Eventually airline non-rev dress codes were relaxed.
Airlines wanted us to be incognito.
They did not want us sitting in 1st class next to some guy who had paid a thousand bucks for his ticket and us bragging we were flying for free.

We kept mum about who we worked for, but when we were the only ones in 1st class wearing a tie, it was a dead giveaway.
We dumped the coat and tie, and women could wear pants suits or slacks.

TWA still had a rule against jeans in 1st.
My daughter was wearing a denim skirt.
A (young new) cabin attendant told her she would have to deboard.
I was able to more or less 'pull rank' and 'reason' with her.

To make any judgement about the tights/leggings I'd really have to see photos.
I will say that United has always had very conservative approach to how they hire and their general operation.

We always thought United pilots were mostly tight-assed jerks.
But we were sorta party guys.

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1. to me, "incognito" makes sense -- but then the best approach is to not have a separate dress code.

in fact, i think "do not reveal that you didn't pay full fare" seems like just about the only restriction i'd place on free/reduced tickets, other than the stand-by rule to make sure the airline is only giving up excess capacity.

[trof]

2. The dress code used to comply with the times.

Maybe United is a bit behind the times?

[Doreen]

3. What irks me from the article I read is that it said women were not supposed to wear legging but

it said it did not say anything to the men wearing shorts.

When I was in school the school told the boys they were not longer allowed to wear shorts. Well this was in the 80's in the mini skirt era and they said nothing to the girls about wearing mini skirts. So, the next day a very large percentage of the boys showed up in mini skirts ( funny as hell to see ) at the end of the day an announcement over the speakers was given that the ban on boys wearing shorts was lifted.

Another odd thing is that they never told the girls that they could not wear shorts. I think the males in the administration liked to look at the girls ( at least that is my take on it. )

This is what this situation with the airline reminded me of.

[tammywammy]

6. Non-rev regardless of gender are allowed to wear shorts on United. n/t

[bottomofthehill]

4. With Hoglander running your Union,

I am sure you were thought of as the party guys. Carl Ican back in the news as tRumps go to guy, WTF.......

[trof]

7. You knew Harry?

Been a long time.

[bottomofthehill]

8. Know him well.

He is a holdover Obama appointee at the National Mediation Board. He is still going strong, recently attacked as a Labor Radical in a management rag. An amazing person. Still working for Democratic Candidates!

[trof]

10. Well, I'll just be damned. Small world, I guess.

I flew with Harry. Always liked him.
Glad he's still around.

[bottomofthehill]

11. TWA Memorabilia

His TWA days mean a lot to him. He has a lot of TWA Memorabilia in his office. Finding an old friend of Harry's on a Democratic Activist Board is not much of a surprise to me. www.nmb.gov

[bottomofthehill]

9. This was from a few years ago, so recently may have been a bit of a stretch

Originally posted at the Alliance for Worker Freedom.

This past week, the White House released a new list of nominees for key posts within the administration being sent to the Senate for approval. Included is the re-nomination of labor radical Harry Hoglander to the National Mediation Board, where he currently serves as Chairman and has presided over one of the most controversial rule making decisions in the Board’s history. If Chairman Hoglander is approved by the Senate, his new term would run through July, 2014.

During his time on the board, Chairman Hoglander has demonstrated his willingness to go to any length to institutionalize Big Labor’s radical agenda. In 2009, Chairman Hoglander and Board Member Linda Puchala pushed through the NMB’s new “minority rule.”

Overturning 75 years of precedent, the new rule stacked the deck in favor of unionization as now a majority of voting workers is able to determine union representation—as opposed to the old rule which required a majority of all workers to elect a union.



Read more: http://www.atr.org/obama-re-nominates-labor-radical-national-a6181#ixzz4ckdfR3TS
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[Jim Beard]

5. What kind of rules did Southwest Airlines have..........