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nkpolitics1212

(8,617 posts)
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 11:39 PM Mar 2017

Could a 2020 Democratic Ticket that has a person from MA and NC be more victorious for Democrats

compared to the 2004 Democratic Ticket?
The 2004 was Kerry-MA/Edwards-NC.
2020 is going to be with Warren-MA/Cooper-NC.
Warren is more popular with the Democratic base than Kerry was in 2004.

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Could a 2020 Democratic Ticket that has a person from MA and NC be more victorious for Democrats (Original Post) nkpolitics1212 Mar 2017 OP
I don't know, but I know for sure I'm gonna buy a delicious burger tomorrow.. JHan Mar 2017 #1
I love Warren, but she is polling at about 27pc, less than DT. We need a certain winner, not taking Alice11111 Mar 2017 #2
Yawn. What about 2018? Hekate Mar 2017 #3
2020 could be John Edwards comeback year! bathroommonkey76 Mar 2017 #4
Now you have done it grantcart Mar 2017 #11
+100 bathroommonkey76 Mar 2017 #16
It's not like counting cards, or jigsaw puzzles, you know. hedda_foil Mar 2017 #5
Why do you keep posting these absurd scenarios? unc70 Mar 2017 #6
Need you ask ? n/t jaysunb Mar 2017 #8
It's boring where he is Hekate Mar 2017 #9
Let's see how Cooper's 1st term pans out. mwooldri Mar 2017 #7
Warren/Cooper ticket could solve two problems regarding why Trump won. nkpolitics1212 Mar 2017 #10
Only problem with this ticket is Cooper. mwooldri Mar 2017 #18
Could NC AG Josh Stein run for Governor in 2020 if Cooper were to vacate to run on the nkpolitics1212 Mar 2017 #20
Warren is from Oklahoma and Texas, moving to the east coast as an older adult. Crunchy Frog Mar 2017 #12
Speaking of Texas-Beto O'Rourke announced he is running for US Senate in 2018 against Ted Cruz. nkpolitics1212 Mar 2017 #21
Coming from NC- don't go with Cooper Lee-Lee Mar 2017 #13
I'm more concerned with their policies sarah FAILIN Mar 2017 #14
who cares....2018 2018... Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #15
We need more hypothetical match ups. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2017 #17
How about some unknown Northern Governor matched with an obscure but charismatic mayor grantcart Mar 2017 #19

JHan

(10,173 posts)
1. I don't know, but I know for sure I'm gonna buy a delicious burger tomorrow..
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 11:40 PM
Mar 2017

Wednesdays are my cheat days.

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
2. I love Warren, but she is polling at about 27pc, less than DT. We need a certain winner, not taking
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 11:44 PM
Mar 2017

any chances this time.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
11. Now you have done it
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 02:41 AM
Mar 2017

His next offering will be a thoughtful query about the future of a Edwards/Weiner ticket and how getting the sex addict demographic will give us a lock in Nevada, Utah and Arkansas.

mwooldri

(10,303 posts)
7. Let's see how Cooper's 1st term pans out.
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 12:12 AM
Mar 2017

2020 will be his re-election year after all. If he does well enough, he'll run for re-election.

Cooper would work well as a running mate in 2024 in the event somehow Trump & Co steal or get selected in 2020 for another 4.

Though of course, I would vote for a Warren/Cooper or even Cooper/Warren ticket.


nkpolitics1212

(8,617 posts)
10. Warren/Cooper ticket could solve two problems regarding why Trump won.
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 02:10 AM
Mar 2017

Trump won because of economic dislocation, Warren has been an advocate for the working class prior and during her Senate career.
Trump won because of social dislocation among white men. Cooper can help with the uneducated white male vote.
Warren/Cooper could argue that the Trump/Pence administration is the real elitist surrounding themselves with wealthy corporate CEOS and pandering to the wealthy donors.

mwooldri

(10,303 posts)
18. Only problem with this ticket is Cooper.
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 11:13 AM
Mar 2017

And it is purely from a logistical view, not idealogical.

2020 is also a re-election year for Cooper. If Cooper does a good job these next four years, we don't want to hand the NC governor's job to an R and have him not re-run. 2024 is the end of his second term and he can't run in 2024. A presidential run in 2024 would be possible then.

nkpolitics1212

(8,617 posts)
20. Could NC AG Josh Stein run for Governor in 2020 if Cooper were to vacate to run on the
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 08:56 PM
Mar 2017

Democratic Ticket? Does NC state law allow presidential nominees to run for re-election for their current job? The problem with this situation is the current NC Lt Governor is a Republican Dan Forest. Roy Cooper waited to long to run for Governor. Cooper should have ran in 2012, he could have won the primary and defeat McCrory in 2012 and 2016. What about the US House members that were redistricted out of office ie Mike McIntyre, Larry Kisell, Heath Schuler, or Brad Miller? Could any of these guys run for Governor or be Warren's VP runningmate?

Crunchy Frog

(26,579 posts)
12. Warren is from Oklahoma and Texas, moving to the east coast as an older adult.
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 05:48 AM
Mar 2017

I would suspect that she is better equipped to understand and communicate with people in traditionally red parts of the country, and would certainly have wider appeal than a Massachusetts native. JMHO.

nkpolitics1212

(8,617 posts)
21. Speaking of Texas-Beto O'Rourke announced he is running for US Senate in 2018 against Ted Cruz.
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 09:19 PM
Mar 2017

Assuming that O'Rourke wins the Democratic primary, he will face and uphill battle in the general. If he narrowly loses to Cruz in 2018, he could make another uphill battle US Senate run in 2020 against Cornyn or he can be Warren's VP runningmate in 2020.

 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
13. Coming from NC- don't go with Cooper
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 07:10 AM
Mar 2017

He barely pulled off a win here and is struggling so far to do anything. I doubt he gets a second term unless he starts pulling some shit off.

He keeps waffling on HB2 repeal and has torpedoed several chances at a repeal because they were not 100% perfect and I'm still not sure how that will play out in the long game. I know a few trans friends who are starting to say they feel like they are being used as a political football held under the bad law longer for political reasons when the chance to repeal it with a few far less bad side issues attached came and was discarded. They feel the repeal should have happened and then the few much smaller bad parts of the repeal been fought over instead of a full no and leaving the law in place.

He is also a HORRIBLE speaker. Slow, monotone, boring. Unless your already deeply liberal and excited by his ideas you won't leave a campaign event with him energized or pumped up. Nobody leaves a Roy Cooper event feeling energized.

sarah FAILIN

(2,857 posts)
14. I'm more concerned with their policies
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 07:21 AM
Mar 2017

Than their hometown. We need someone that can ignite the people more than a geographical location.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
19. How about some unknown Northern Governor matched with an obscure but charismatic mayor
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 11:48 AM
Mar 2017

or cousins of either?

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